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06-30-2014, 05:55 PM | #16 |
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06-30-2014, 05:58 PM | #17 |
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| They did do an ultrasound at that time as well he had a little bit of pancreatitis but the vet said that could've been just from the dehydration of him being NPO for his surgery. But when we went to weeks after that for a recheck his BUN was still high. And like I said, the two vets that I've taken him to couldn't really piece it together on what is going on. Besides him being NPO for his surgery that day he drinks water I have freshwater available for him at all times so it's hard for me to think that's what it is or was. |
06-30-2014, 06:39 PM | #18 |
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| You can freeze a few weeks worth at a time
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06-30-2014, 07:34 PM | #19 | |
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07-01-2014, 10:37 AM | #20 |
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| High protein does not cause kidney disease. It can make pre-existing issues worse. Lab work does not show early renal changes. Raw food needs to be converted to a dry matter basis. None of it is low protein. This problem needs to be figured out before feeding any of these foods. BUN can go up because of dehydration and high protein, but not nearly to that level. A urinalysis needs to be done if it hasn't been already. An IMS is needed. That number is way too high.
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07-01-2014, 11:20 AM | #21 | |
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No UA was done what is a IMS? Sorry, I tried googling it and nothing came up. He is just not eating his kibble enough, which is why I am switching to raw. I started thinking dehydration if maybe he just isn't drinking enough and frozen raw has high moisture content. I dont know what kind of vet to take him to, I have taken him to two who don't know what it could be beside the possibly gi bleed that he was oven meds for. I'm so distraught over this. He acts and looks completely healthy. | |
07-01-2014, 11:36 AM | #22 |
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| Crystal can explain a lot more, but I think she's referring to an internal medicine specialist. Katie's BUN was elevated, but it was 38. We had spent the day before playing outside, and she was jumping in her baby pool instead of drinking a lot of water, so I think dehydration was the cause. We also followed up with a specific gravity of urine to be sure there were no kidney issues, and that was normal. I hope your little boy gets better.
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07-01-2014, 12:16 PM | #23 |
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| Yes, an internist. I do not know why a urinalysis was not done, but both vets dropped the ball. This NEEDS to be done. Moisture is goid. High protein is not ok until you get a diagnosis.
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07-01-2014, 12:18 PM | #24 |
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| ETA: High fat and high protein are contraindicated in dogs with a history of pancreatitis.
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07-01-2014, 12:22 PM | #25 | |
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07-01-2014, 12:23 PM | #26 | |
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07-01-2014, 02:05 PM | #27 | |
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So I will be calling my vet to make an appointment for follow-up labs and you way. And I will ask him for a referral to internal medicine specialist in town if its still high. I will refrain from transitioning into a raw diet until I get more concrete answers. Thank you very much for your help! | |
07-01-2014, 02:07 PM | #28 | |
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Wow his BUN was definitely through the roof. Thank you for your suggestions, I will definitely be checking up and doing a follow up soon and asking for a specialist consult. | |
07-01-2014, 02:13 PM | #29 |
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| [quote=107barney;4458807]Internal medicine specialist. The ACVIM is the board certification for that. They are usually found at bigger specialist hospitals or vet school. I am sorry but that number for a BUN is not likely to be dehydration. I agree that I would be feeding lower protein until you find out Last edited by paolaRN; 07-01-2014 at 02:15 PM. |
07-01-2014, 05:23 PM | #30 |
YT 2000 Club Member | dog Hi Paola RN. My daughter is an RN. I admire nurses. I feed my Yorkies Wellness and am very happy with that. Just wanted to tell you what food I use. Bless you for helping others! |
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