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katy-yorkie · 11-18-2013, 08:17 AM

My daughter feeds her two doxies and pittie raw liver, raw turkey necks, raw hearts (chicken, I'm guessing). She said the bones in the raw turkey necks won't hurt them. She swears that it's good for them and they love it. I did see a video of them eating the turkey necks and they did seem to like them...a lot. But somehow I can't get past the raw part, especially the liver. Mine do like cooked liver but they don't get it that often, if at all. I know you can buy raw food for dogs at the store but I've only tried that once, didn't go over too well, but that was a few years ago. Does anyone else feed raw, really raw food? What are the benefits?

Britster · 11-18-2013, 05:46 PM

A lot of people feed raw. It's typically known as PMR (prey model raw) or BARF.

Raw bones are "okay" for dogs to eat (as in, they're digestible, compared to cooked bones which can splinter and cause major obstructions etc). Some give RMB's (raw meaty bones) for recreational chewing.

As far as I know, when you're feeding PMR raw, you NEED the bone otherwise they will be lacking essential nutrients. The suggested guideline when figuring how much to feed of what is: 10% whole, raw bones, 10% whole raw organ meats and 80% skeletal muscle meats.

PMR does include any veggies, dairy, etc, no extra supplements. Supposedly they get everything they need from the raw food. Benefits are supposed to be shinier coat, very clean teeth, less stool. I am sure raw feeders could explain more.

It's not something I'd personally be comfortable with. Some really love it though.

107barney · 11-18-2013, 07:55 PM

I would not be comfortable with feeding a raw diet. To me, there is no nutritional advantage of raw food over cooked food and even if there was there are downsides to raw in terms of food safety.

Maximo · 11-18-2013, 08:16 PM

I know a lot of pups do well on raw. My boys would turn up their noses and tell me to cook it.

ETA: Bird poop good, raw food not good. Love their thinking.

katy-yorkie · 11-19-2013, 02:18 AM

Thanks for the replies. I don't know if I could feed raw, just the thought of feeding a "heart" creeps me out. I think mine would turn up their nose as well.

yipyap · 11-19-2013, 05:04 AM

I know animal digestive systems are different from humans, but I always wash my hands, cutting boards, dishwear, knives, etc. that contact raw meat really well! Always worry about e-coli, etc. from raw meats. Now, my husband allowed the outdoor farm cats to have fresh-caught, raw fish leftovers, when he cleaned his fish by the garage. Then, he rinsed the fillets at kitchen sink before frying; he cleaned off sink with Brillo pads. The outdoor cats really loved the fish remains, but he does not give raw meat remains to our indoor Yorkie pup. Taffy has always has mixed doggie canned food & kibble, and some cooked treats every so often. I just feel leary of raw meat, period. But, everyone has their own opinions on this.

Wylie's Mom · 11-19-2013, 05:38 AM

Yes - lots of people here feed PMR (prey model raw), which is what your daughter is doing and they all recommend it.

I feed pre-made raw (comes frozen, in patties, then I defrost it) and love it for my kiddos.

LolaKaty · 11-19-2013, 05:43 AM

So far so good with Natures Variety Frozen Raw and Primal Frozen Raw!

Lovetodream88 · 11-19-2013, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 107barney

I would not be comfortable with feeding a raw diet. To me, there is no nutritional advantage of raw food over cooked food and even if there was there are downsides to raw in terms of food safety.

IDPiper · 11-19-2013, 04:31 PM

I feed a pre-made raw from Darwin's and my little absolutely loves it!! I would never go back to processed food unless it was medically necessary!! Piper absolutely refused to eat processed dog food no matter how I tried to fix if for her. Raw is the BEST choice for my little!

There are downsides to feeding processed food in terms of food safety, too.

Do what is best for you after you have done all of your research as this can be a very heated topic.

brezofleur · 11-19-2013, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by IDPiper

There are downsides to feeding processed food in terms of food safety, too.

Do what is best for you after you have done all of your research as this can be a very heated topic.

This.

I also feed raw (yes, raw-raw, lol) or PMR. My kiddos love it. The night we brought Thalia home she stole some of Zeus' food and that was that! LOL

Turkey necks are too big for my little ones, but some dogs can definitely chow them down.

WannaBe · 11-19-2013, 08:24 PM

I also feed raw. Gunner gets all parts of the chickens that I grew and slaughtered. We have hearts, gizzards, livers, necks (his favorite) feet, heads, you get the idea. I also feed beef and turkey. All very well balanced. I would love to feed him a premixed raw, but so far I have not found any he will eat. Oh, and he LOVES green tripe!

Lovetodream88 · 11-19-2013, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by IDPiper

I feed a pre-made raw from Darwin's and my little absolutely loves it!! I would never go back to processed food unless it was medically necessary!! Piper absolutely refused to eat processed dog food no matter how I tried to fix if for her. Raw is the BEST choice for my little!

There are downsides to feeding processed food in terms of food safety, too.

Do what is best for you after you have done all of your research as this can be a very heated topic.

That's why in my opinion home cooking is the best but processed food that has vet nutritionist that help to make it and they do the testing necessary and put the money into making a quality food is very safe.

IDPiper · 11-19-2013, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WannaBe

I also feed raw. Gunner gets all parts of the chickens that I grew and slaughtered. We have hearts, gizzards, livers, necks (his favorite) feet, heads, you get the idea. I also feed beef and turkey. All very well balanced. I would love to feed him a premixed raw, but so far I have not found any he will eat. Oh, and he LOVES green tripe!

Green Tripe aka doggie crack!!! OMG, Piper goes crazy and will sit and lick her bowl for about 15 minutes. Piper also gets chicken necks, feet, livers, hearts and gizzards from chickens we grew and slaughtered. I have to watch her really close because she tries to hide her necks.

IDPiper · 11-19-2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

That's why in my opinion home cooking is the best but processed food that has vet nutritionist that help to make it and they do the testing necessary and put the money into making a quality food is very safe.

Your opinion.

11-18-2013, 08:17 AM	#1
katy-yorkie Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Katy, Texas USA Posts: 1,458	Raw...really raw My daughter feeds her two doxies and pittie raw liver, raw turkey necks, raw hearts (chicken, I'm guessing). She said the bones in the raw turkey necks won't hurt them. She swears that it's good for them and they love it. I did see a video of them eating the turkey necks and they did seem to like them...a lot. But somehow I can't get past the raw part, especially the liver. Mine do like cooked liver but they don't get it that often, if at all. I know you can buy raw food for dogs at the store but I've only tried that once, didn't go over too well, but that was a few years ago. Does anyone else feed raw, really raw food? What are the benefits? __________________ Jeanie, mom to Buster and Maggie

11-18-2013, 05:46 PM	#2
Britster Action Jackson ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 17,814	A lot of people feed raw. It's typically known as PMR (prey model raw) or BARF. Raw bones are "okay" for dogs to eat (as in, they're digestible, compared to cooked bones which can splinter and cause major obstructions etc). Some give RMB's (raw meaty bones) for recreational chewing. As far as I know, when you're feeding PMR raw, you NEED the bone otherwise they will be lacking essential nutrients. The suggested guideline when figuring how much to feed of what is: 10% whole, raw bones, 10% whole raw organ meats and 80% skeletal muscle meats. PMR does include any veggies, dairy, etc, no extra supplements. Supposedly they get everything they need from the raw food. Benefits are supposed to be shinier coat, very clean teeth, less stool. I am sure raw feeders could explain more. It's not something I'd personally be comfortable with. Some really love it though. __________________ ~ Brit & Lights! Camera! Jackson! CGC ETD TKP ~ Follow Jackson on Instagram: https://instagram.com/jacksontheterrier

11-18-2013, 07:55 PM	#3
107barney T. Bumpkins & Co. Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New England Posts: 9,816	I would not be comfortable with feeding a raw diet. To me, there is no nutritional advantage of raw food over cooked food and even if there was there are downsides to raw in terms of food safety. __________________ T. Bumpkins & Co. Washable Doggie Pee Pads (Save 10% Enter YTSAVE10 at checkout) Cathy, Teddy, Winston and Baby Clyde...RIP angels Barney and Daisy

11-18-2013, 08:16 PM	#4
Maximo ♥ Maximo and Teddy Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 25,041	I know a lot of pups do well on raw. My boys would turn up their noses and tell me to cook it. ETA: Bird poop good, raw food not good. Love their thinking. __________________ Kristin, Max and Teddy Last edited by Maximo; 11-18-2013 at 08:17 PM.

11-19-2013, 02:18 AM	#5
katy-yorkie Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Katy, Texas USA Posts: 1,458	Thanks for the replies. I don't know if I could feed raw, just the thought of feeding a "heart" creeps me out. I think mine would turn up their nose as well. __________________ Jeanie, mom to Buster and Maggie

11-19-2013, 05:04 AM	#6
yipyap Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Shenandoah Valley, VA., USA Posts: 173	I know animal digestive systems are different from humans, but I always wash my hands, cutting boards, dishwear, knives, etc. that contact raw meat really well! Always worry about e-coli, etc. from raw meats. Now, my husband allowed the outdoor farm cats to have fresh-caught, raw fish leftovers, when he cleaned his fish by the garage. Then, he rinsed the fillets at kitchen sink before frying; he cleaned off sink with Brillo pads. The outdoor cats really loved the fish remains, but he does not give raw meat remains to our indoor Yorkie pup. Taffy has always has mixed doggie canned food & kibble, and some cooked treats every so often. I just feel leary of raw meat, period. But, everyone has their own opinions on this.

11-19-2013, 05:38 AM	#7
Wylie's Mom Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 35,889 Blog Entries: 2	Yes - lots of people here feed PMR (prey model raw), which is what your daughter is doing and they all recommend it. I feed pre-made raw (comes frozen, in patties, then I defrost it) and love it for my kiddos. __________________ ~ A friend told me I was delusional. I nearly fell off my unicorn. ~ °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Ann \| Pfeiffer \| Marcel Verdel Purcell \| Wylie \| Artie °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨°

11-19-2013, 05:43 AM	#8
LolaKaty Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Hollywood, FL Posts: 125	So far so good with Natures Variety Frozen Raw and Primal Frozen Raw!

11-19-2013, 04:31 PM	#10
IDPiper Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Idaho Posts: 331	I feed a pre-made raw from Darwin's and my little absolutely loves it!! I would never go back to processed food unless it was medically necessary!! Piper absolutely refused to eat processed dog food no matter how I tried to fix if for her. Raw is the BEST choice for my little! There are downsides to feeding processed food in terms of food safety, too. Do what is best for you after you have done all of your research as this can be a very heated topic.

11-19-2013, 08:24 PM	#12
WannaBe YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Michigan Posts: 927	I also feed raw. Gunner gets all parts of the chickens that I grew and slaughtered. We have hearts, gizzards, livers, necks (his favorite) feet, heads, you get the idea. I also feed beef and turkey. All very well balanced. I would love to feed him a premixed raw, but so far I have not found any he will eat. Oh, and he LOVES green tripe! __________________ Gunner Love of my life. MeSo-toe: