Who does titers?

[Becca1]

Originally Posted by ArmaniMan

If she is having issues, you should hold off on all vaccines... you never want to vaccinate a sick dog, you should consider looking into getting a Rabies Exemption for her and hold off on other vaccines until she is healthy.

Since my Yorkie is in a constant state of liver issues (She's 3 years old and has had 3 years of shots up until now); do you think I should hold off on vaccinating or still have the titers done? My vet did agree not to give her shots at this time because her liver enzymes are high, but I wonder for later on???

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Becca1

Since my Yorkie is in a constant state of liver issues (She's 3 years old and has had 3 years of shots up until now); do you think I should hold off on vaccinating or still have the titers done? My vet did agree not to give her shots at this time because her liver enzymes are high, but I wonder for later on???

can you clarify has your vet been giving your dog annual vaccinations for dhpp and rabies? I just want to make sure this has not been done in a liver disease dog and that you mean he is doing vaccines every 3 years?

I have done titers for almost 5 years now in 3 dogs - 2 of which have had high titers and demi had a low titer at 1 years old so did the one year booster to be safe as she was a rescue that did not have her last series of puppy shots and vet wanted to wait for 1 year to do the shots if titers were low. Her titers were done at cornell university and cost me the most out of any titer as it was $154 for that one where as with jean they are about $50

[Mysweetbabies]

My 3 yorkies were due for their 1 yr boosters a month ago. I will be taking them this week to get them. Distemper and Parvo is all I want them to have. Bo had a reaction to the lepto with his last series. They already had their rabies shot a couple of months ago. Is there any other shots they need that are necessary to have? They don't go to boarding. I do most of their grooming except their nails. After this booster I won't get them any more 3 three years except rabies.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Mysweetbabies

My 3 yorkies were due for their 1 yr boosters a month ago. I will be taking them this week to get them. Distemper and Parvo is all I want them to have. Bo had a reaction to the lepto with his last series. They already had their rabies shot a couple of months ago. Is there any other shots they need that are necessary to have? They don't go to boarding. I do most of their grooming except their nails. After this booster I won't get them any more 3 three years except rabies.

This thread is superrrrrrrr long loll but it has alot of great information check it out

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...oing-them.html

[Becca1]

Originally Posted by dwerten

can you clarify has your vet been giving your dog annual vaccinations for dhpp and rabies? I just want to make sure this has not been done in a liver disease dog and that you mean he is doing vaccines every 3 years?

I have done titers for almost 5 years now in 3 dogs - 2 of which have had high titers and demi had a low titer at 1 years old so did the one year booster to be safe as she was a rescue that did not have her last series of puppy shots and vet wanted to wait for 1 year to do the shots if titers were low. Her titers were done at cornell university and cost me the most out of any titer as it was $154 for that one where as with jean they are about $50

Yes, since her "puppy" shots, each year thereafter (2 previous years) she has had dhpp and rabies. He said he would not do them now (her shots were due in April) since her liver is compromised - just didn't know how to respond to him if he suggests giving the annual vaccinations in the future. When I spoke with titering my dogs before - he wasn't big on that, so......

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Becca1

Yes, since her "puppy" shots, each year thereafter (2 previous years) she has had dhpp and rabies. He said he would not do them now (her shots were due in April) since her liver is compromised - just didn't know how to respond to him if he suggests giving the annual vaccinations in the future. When I spoke with titering my dogs before - he wasn't big on that, so......

wow - read that thread annual vaccines are not necessary unless your county requires annual rabies so call to check your county laws. After one year booster it usually is every 3 years but I am a fan of titering and if a dog has health issues or reactions proceed with BIG CAUTION. I would say if you titered your dog they would be very high since doing annual vaccines. Read that link i sent thoroughly so you can ask questions and understand more before you make the decision. I am glad your vet is cautious on vaccinating dogs with health issues though. Has your vet ever explained why he does not believe in titering?

[Becca1]

Originally Posted by dwerten

wow - read that thread annual vaccines are not necessary unless your county requires annual rabies so call to check your county laws. After one year booster it usually is every 3 years but I am a fan of titering and if a dog has health issues or reactions proceed with BIG CAUTION. I would say if you titered your dog they would be very high since doing annual vaccines. Read that link i sent thoroughly so you can ask questions and understand more before you make the decision. I am glad your vet is cautious on vaccinating dogs with health issues though. Has your vet ever explained why he does not believe in titering?

The vet I have used for more than 20 years just has believed in shots every year and basically said he is the vet (not me) and that was his suggestion; however, he is semi-retiring and we are now seeing a younger vet in his practice that seems to be more current on how things seem to be moving towards shots only every 3 years and I believe will be more open to "my" suggestions. Our county's rabies shot is still a yearly requirement, but petitions are being circulated to change this to every 3 years. I will read the link your forwarded. Also, I joined the two memberships you suggested on Yahoo and I can't believe the helpful information that is there, especially concerning proteins, food and treats. Thank you.

[Becca1]

Originally Posted by Mysweetbabies

My 3 yorkies were due for their 1 yr boosters a month ago. I will be taking them this week to get them. Distemper and Parvo is all I want them to have. Bo had a reaction to the lepto with his last series. They already had their rabies shot a couple of months ago. Is there any other shots they need that are necessary to have? They don't go to boarding. I do most of their grooming except their nails. After this booster I won't get them any more 3 three years except rabies.

I think you have all the "usual" shots covered. How old are your 3?? I'm going to read that link on vaccinations that Dwerten provided which probably has a lot of good information.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Becca1

The vet I have used for more than 20 years just has believed in shots every year and basically said he is the vet (not me) and that was his suggestion; however, he is semi-retiring and we are now seeing a younger vet in his practice that seems to be more current on how things seem to be moving towards shots only every 3 years and I believe will be more open to "my" suggestions. Our county's rabies shot is still a yearly requirement, but petitions are being circulated to change this to every 3 years. I will read the link your forwarded. Also, I joined the two memberships you suggested on Yahoo and I can't believe the helpful information that is there, especially concerning proteins, food and treats. Thank you.

that is great as those groups helped me ALOT.

yeah i am always leery of people who use their title to explain things lol I personally prefer an explanation of why they feel this is necessary not just I am the vet and that is that lol. I usually run from those kind of people as i feel they have something to hide. People who are good at their profession can usually explain things and are open to hearing your concerns and will review what you bring them and give you a reason of why they agree or disagree and then you as the pet owner can come to a logical decision after consulting with them on what to do with your pet. Respect is earned not granted by a title and it is earned by educating pet owners on how to better care for their pets and doing the right thing to keep them healthy which means to keep educating yourself if you are a professional and not only rely on what you learned in vet school but what is evolving passed school as medicine is ever changing. I think many do not continue educating themselves after school and become complacent in their jobs so when pet owners start to ask questions they get frustrated and cannot answer it because they simply do not know the answers.

[laci32]

Andy does get a allergic reaction to his vac needles , But my or his vet gives him and benadryle shot along with the needle . I have to get them as by law to travel from Canada to the U S .All his needles need to be up to date

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by dwerten

that is great as those groups helped me ALOT.

yeah i am always leery of people who use their title to explain things lol I personally prefer an explanation of why they feel this is necessary not just I am the vet and that is that lol. I usually run from those kind of people as i feel they have something to hide. People who are good at their profession can usually explain things and are open to hearing your concerns and will review what you bring them and give you a reason of why they agree or disagree and then you as the pet owner can come to a logical decision after consulting with them on what to do with your pet. Respect is earned not granted by a title and it is earned by educating pet owners on how to better care for their pets and doing the right thing to keep them healthy which means to keep educating yourself if you are a professional and not only rely on what you learned in vet school but what is evolving passed school as medicine is ever changing. I think many do not continue educating themselves after school and become complacent in their jobs so when pet owners start to ask questions they get frustrated and cannot answer it because they simply do not know the answers.

This is said very well.
There may be reasons that vets have become tired of explaining things (many clients don't care or maybe they feel that that's all they'd be doing alll day), but it is their job. IMO, if they don't love people and they are too busy to have discussions, then they may be in the wrong profession... And some are just insecure with their knowledge...

[Becca1]

Originally Posted by dwerten

that is great as those groups helped me ALOT.

yeah i am always leery of people who use their title to explain things lol I personally prefer an explanation of why they feel this is necessary not just I am the vet and that is that lol. I usually run from those kind of people as i feel they have something to hide. People who are good at their profession can usually explain things and are open to hearing your concerns and will review what you bring them and give you a reason of why they agree or disagree and then you as the pet owner can come to a logical decision after consulting with them on what to do with your pet. Respect is earned not granted by a title and it is earned by educating pet owners on how to better care for their pets and doing the right thing to keep them healthy which means to keep educating yourself if you are a professional and not only rely on what you learned in vet school but what is evolving passed school as medicine is ever changing. I think many do not continue educating themselves after school and become complacent in their jobs so when pet owners start to ask questions they get frustrated and cannot answer it because they simply do not know the answers.

I totallly agree that any doctor (or any intellegent person) should try and teach lay people rather than say, that's just the way it is and, as I said, our younger vet seems like he is more willing to be that way. Anyway....

Since Lexie has been feeling poorly for a couple days I opted today to take her into the vet (only the older vet was there today) and we discussed our options. Here are his thoughts - I wanted to see what you may think. He said that a biopsy would show (90% chance) whether she may CAH (or Chronic Active Hepatitis) and if it showed that, the usual form of treatment for that are steroids (most likely prednisone, I believe) and that it is very treatable if it is CAH, as opposed to MVD. Okay, this is new to me. So I will do some research on that as well; I did opt to have bloodwork done today to see how her levels are doing. Oh, also when you are treating one of your mvd dogs, what antibiotic do you prefer?? We had use Baytril on her before, but it seemed to make her a bit sick, so now are trying Metronidazole, 1/2 tab a.m. and p.m.