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spiritwings1202 02-28-2010 09:41 AM
How much protein is too much?
 
I am researching dog foods bc I recently read on dog food analysis that wellness at the bottom of the reviews said that they did retain some overall concern about the meat content. Which bothered me. So now I am totally confused:confused:.
there are a lot of dog foods that are good quality but the protein content is so much higher and the fat is as well.

My question is what is a good protein percentage and fat when looking for a dog food.

I also was wondering if I switched the protein source from chicken to fish would that be a bad thing. Gosh I sound like durrrrrrr and I feel durrrrrrr lol

I just want what is best for my Pixie and Daisy. I need some help!

yorkieloverx2tn 02-28-2010 10:20 AM
I would like to know the answer to this as well... :wink:

dwerten 02-28-2010 10:23 AM
depends on the health of the dog. I try to stay around 22% protein and my pancreatic dog is on 8% fat. Since this breed is prone to pancreatitis and liver issues I would keep those two things down. Fish is a more highly digestible protein than chicken. If you are switching over just switch over slowly

the other thing to be careful of in high protein diets is stones

spiritwings1202 02-28-2010 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 3021588)
depends on the health of the dog. I try to stay around 22% protein and my pancreatic dog is on 8% fat. Since this breed is prone to pancreatitis and liver issues I would keep those two things down. Fish is a more highly digestible protein than chicken. If you are switching over just switch over slowly

the other thing to be careful of in high protein diets is stones
I am having such a hard time finding a dog food that is good quality and lower protein source.
Can I ask what you feed your dogs?

dwerten 02-28-2010 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by spiritwings1202 (Post 3021597)
I am having such a hard time finding a dog food that is good quality and lower protein source.
Can I ask what you feed your dogs?
i feed my maltese newman's own organic and my other two have health issues so they get purina ha

have you thought about honest kitchen and doing preference then adding in cod as your protein source as that is what i have thought about doing for my maltese

spiritwings1202 02-28-2010 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 3021602)
i feed my maltese newman's own organic and my other two have health issues so they get purina ha

have you thought about honest kitchen and doing preference then adding in cod as your protein source as that is what i have thought about doing for my maltese
What is that? lol I think I am clueless.

dwerten 02-28-2010 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by spiritwings1202 (Post 3021612)
What is that? lol I think I am clueless.
Preference | The Honest Kitchen

your dog does not have any health issues correct? as dogs on soloxine for thyroid issues should not have kelp as it is high in iodine

spiritwings1202 02-28-2010 10:56 AM
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Preference | The Honest Kitchen

your dog does not have any health issues correct? as dogs on soloxine for thyroid issues should not have kelp as it is high in iodine
Pixie does not, Daisy has a sodium intolerance and acid reflex.

YorkieMom6 02-28-2010 10:57 AM
This is one of many questions, I too have! I am concerned about too high of protein however, too low - means heavy on grains and I have heard that is bad too. Soooooooooooooo confusing!

Then the pet food review analysis site recommends switching their food to give them an array of ingredients and to help prevent allergies.

PrincessDiana 02-28-2010 11:10 AM
There is no problem with high protein UNLESS they already have liver problems. When we fed kibble, our dogs were Wellness CORE and Nature's Variety Instinct. I don't remember the exact values but I think they were both in the 30% range. I believe in high protein foods because I believe that dogs are carnivores and thrive on meat! Higher protein generally means a higher meat content. A lot of members here feed high protein food with no problems.

We also fed grain free because they are harder to digest and a common source of allergies in dogs.

dwerten 02-28-2010 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by YorkieMom6 (Post 3021617)
This is one of many questions, I too have! I am concerned about too high of protein however, too low - means heavy on grains and I have heard that is bad too. Soooooooooooooo confusing!

Then the pet food review analysis site recommends switching their food to give them an array of ingredients and to help prevent allergies.
switching only applies when feeding raw you can rotate around but on kibble i would not do that. Dogs can get an allergy to something they have eaten over and over that is true. Heavy on grains is a problem if allergy dog as newman's own organic is heavy on grains and demi has huge stools so the more grains the more stool but on raw stool is tiny and powdery as they absorb more nutrients. I fed raw before but with dd allergies and immune suppressant drugs i was too nervous to continue with that. Too high of grains can affect teeth some say but i do know dogs on raw all their life no grains with teeth issues so that threw that out the window for me.

Raw has natural enzymes since they are not cooked out like cooked or processed foods so it helps in digestion of the food

_Chrissy_ 02-28-2010 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by spiritwings1202 (Post 3021597)
I am having such a hard time finding a dog food that is good quality and lower protein source.
Can I ask what you feed your dogs?
YES!
And a smaller kibble size :)

AMD 02-28-2010 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by spiritwings1202 (Post 3021559)
I am researching dog foods bc I recently read on dog food analysis that wellness at the bottom of the reviews said that they did retain some overall concern about the meat content. Which bothered me. So now I am totally confused:confused:.
there are a lot of dog foods that are good quality but the protein content is so much higher and the fat is as well.

My question is what is a good protein percentage and fat when looking for a dog food.

I also was wondering if I switched the protein source from chicken to fish would that be a bad thing. Gosh I sound like durrrrrrr and I feel durrrrrrr lol

I just want what is best for my Pixie and Daisy. I need some help!
If you're dog doesn't have kidney or liver disease, too much protein usually isn't a big concern. There's not perfect amount of protein, so whatever you feel comfortable with. Orijen or EVO is high meat content with protein in the 40%'s, whereas Acana is lower in protein, including their grainless formula's (33%). I've fed protein from 28%-42% with no problems. I prefer higher meat contect since dogs are carnivores, but there are great foods that are low in protein too.
I'm not sure which Wellness formula you're feeding but the Small Breed Adult gets good review. They're in alphabetical order, which is why Wellness is at the bottom. Dog Food Reviews - Wellness Super5Mix Small breed - Powered by ReviewPost
Hope that helps. :D

Britster 02-28-2010 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by PrincessDiana (Post 3021629)
There is no problem with high protein UNLESS they already have liver problems. When we fed kibble, our dogs were Wellness CORE and Nature's Variety Instinct. I don't remember the exact values but I think they were both in the 30% range. I believe in high protein foods because I believe that dogs are carnivores and thrive on meat! Higher protein generally means a higher meat content. A lot of members here feed high protein food with no problems.

We also fed grain free because they are harder to digest and a common source of allergies in dogs.
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Originally Posted by AMD (Post 3021784)
If you're dog doesn't have kidney or liver disease, too much protein usually isn't a big concern. There's not perfect amount of protein, so whatever you feel comfortable with. Orijen or EVO is high meat content with protein in the 40%'s, whereas Acana is lower in protein, including their grainless formula's (33%). I've fed protein from 28%-42% with no problems. I prefer higher meat contect since dogs are carnivores, but there are great foods that are low in protein too.
I'm not sure which Wellness formula you're feeding but the Small Breed Adult gets good review. They're in alphabetical order, which is why Wellness is at the bottom. Dog Food Reviews - Wellness Super5Mix Small breed - Powered by ReviewPost
Hope that helps. :D
:thumbup::thumbup:

I feed Jackson Fromm Surf n' Turf right now and I believe it's around 32% protein, grainless food. Jackson seems to prefer the foods with higher meat content and I believe in the idea that dogs need more meat so it works for us. He's also a pretty active dog and can easily work off the excess fat/protein. Higher energy dogs typically need more protein.

dwerten 02-28-2010 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Britster (Post 3021832)
:thumbup::thumbup:

I feed Jackson Fromm Surf n' Turf right now and I believe it's around 32% protein, grainless food. Jackson seems to prefer the foods with higher meat content and I believe in the idea that dogs need more meat so it works for us. He's also a pretty active dog and can easily work off the excess fat/protein. Higher energy dogs typically need more protein.
that is very true highly active dogs need more protein but ones that are not need less


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