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01-09-2010, 06:32 PM | #1 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Mantua, Ohio
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| To neuter or not to neuter Hello YT Members. I have a question to ask you all. With your furbabies, how did you decide whether or not to have them neutered? I am not sure if I should or shouldn't have it done. Some of my coworkers told me to "stud" him, but I just don't know. Any help would be great! or |
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01-09-2010, 06:41 PM | #2 |
Action Jackson ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Maryland
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| I'm all for neutering/spaying your pets! Some benefits of neutering: Reduces the distracting and destructive behavior associated with the male's efforts to get out and find a mate. Reduces the urge to roam. This makes it less likely that you will lose your pet, which in turn makes your pet less likely to contract a disease, get in a fight, get injured, or become a victim to cruelty, poison, or traffic. Eliminates sexual discomfort, distress, or distraction ... making your pet happier and more content. Eliminates testicular tumors and reduces prostate gland problems. Neutering stops or reduces marking behavior (territorial spraying of urine). Reduces the urge to fight. Over 3-4 million dogs are euthanized daily. I don't think it's really fair to add to that population if not necessary. Breeding is not something that should just be done for "fun" or because "you want to experience the miracle of birth" but to better the breed. Do you have his pedigree? Genetic testing? 100% healthy, free of LP and liver disease? Extensive health testing needs to be completed before adding puppies to the world.... I'm gonna tell you honestly -- I thought the SAME things when I first got Jackson. "Aw, having puppies would be cute!" Once I did my research, I quickly said NO way. He is FAR from standard of a Yorkie, weighing in at 12lbs, but besides that... I wanted to keep my PET a pet and not a humping always in search of a female in heat machine. He's my little boy forever!
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01-09-2010, 06:46 PM | #3 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Pittsburgh
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| thank you - this response helps me as well.
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01-09-2010, 06:46 PM | #4 |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Georgia
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| Hey I decided to neuter my male because I wasn't interested in mating him. We also had our female spayed. I was told it was also keep him from wanting to mark his territory (pee on everything) so far he doesn't do this. He has just started raising his leg sometimes, he is 10 months old. I think there are also some health benefits. Good luck with your decision.
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01-09-2010, 06:46 PM | #5 |
Puppy Luv Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada
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| I would never stud a dog, no way! You most times are up for a lifetime of marking, some studs can mark every corner of your home in just minutes. You can either have a home full of marking or have to use belly bands all the time. Not worth it to me, plus everything said in the awesome posts above mine. Last edited by Breeze; 01-09-2010 at 06:49 PM. |
01-09-2010, 06:46 PM | #6 |
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| Please neuter!! Britster pretty much said it all!! I would Def neuter!! I think if you are not a breeder... Dont try and breed or stud! Just have a pet, make him your baby!
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01-09-2010, 06:52 PM | #7 |
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| The marking alone would be reason enough for me!
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01-09-2010, 06:55 PM | #8 |
Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama
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| My view is that any dog that isn't going to be used for breeding should be neutered. And, IMO, there are many factors to consider and reasons why one should breed their dog---"because your coworkers told you to' is not one of them. Breeding is a serious venture to enter in to and takes lots of research and preparation beforehand...not something you should embark on just because other people are telling you to. |
01-09-2010, 06:56 PM | #9 |
Puppy Luv Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada
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| Just want to add the marking can happen from an un-neutered male who has never mated as well and be just as severe. |
01-09-2010, 07:11 PM | #10 | |
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01-10-2010, 04:30 PM | #11 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Mantua, Ohio
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| Thank you for all your help. After reading some of these reasons for/against, I think I will be having him neutered. Him marking everything is something I don't want. |
01-10-2010, 05:34 PM | #12 |
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| Ready for a wrench? Hi Everyone, Please allow me to throw a wrench into the works here. First of all, I am all for "sterilization" (and preventing unwanted pregnancies) in our pets but I am now dead set against "neutering" (removing the gonads) unless there is good cause. Thankfully, there are good surgical alternatives to the removal of the gonads, namely vasectomy in the male and hysterectomy alone in the female (just as they have done in women for years and years). Let me explain: It is NOT true what we (including myself) have been telling people for years: That dogs are healthier if they are neutered. Yes, there are a few medical benefits but they come at the expense of MANY other problems. The gonads are not just important for reproduction. The testicles and ovaries play a major role in the production of very important hormones that are involved in the proper function of the immune system. The main one for the purpose of this discussion is progesterone. Progesterone is one of the most powerful anti-inflammatory agents that our body produces. It is actually stronger than cortisone. The testicles and the ovaries are the principle sources of this vital hormone. Thankfully, the adrenal glands also produce progesterone but they do so in much less quantity than the gonads. SO, should we be surprised to see a much higher rate of allergies in the neutered animal? How about "autoimmune diseases"? How about cancer??? Yes, all three of these are increased as a result of neutering. This is the hot topic in cancer research in dogs. It started with the Rottweiler studies year ago, which showed a much higher rate of bone cancer in dogs that were spayed early. Cancer generally arises in areas of chronic inflammation so this should be no surprise. Ask any post menopausal woman what they thought about going through "the change". It is not the dropping estrogen levels that did the most harm but rather the drop in progesterone that leads to the hot flashes, fibromyalgia, rheumatoid, strokes and heart attacks that often follow menopause. Thankfully, these are preventable with the correct approach but it is a significant battle because there are no dietary sources of progesterone like there are of estrogen. In fact, our diet and environment are LOADED with estrogen, thus the problem we have with estrogen dominance- in both women and men...and dogs. Yes, we see less breast cancer in dogs who have been spayed BUT that is because we lower their overall estrogen load by removing their ovaries. Is that the right approach or would we be better off removing the outside sources of estrogen- those in their diet, their environment and in those horrible pesticides we pour all over them, all of which have estrogenic activity? I came up with an analogy: Removing the dogs ovaries to prevent breast cancer is like taking off their legs so that they won't get hit by a car. Effective but the wrong way to go about it. When we remove their ovaries, we take away that all-important source of progesterone- for which there is no replacement- and leave them open to all of the forms of inflammation awaiting them, just like the post-menopausal woman. In other words: Spaying is "surgical menopause" for the dog. Castration of the male is the same. We DO have surgical alternatives as discussed above. Will your vet look at you like you are nuts to ask for these alternatives? Yes, they will. But that is OUR problem as a profession, not yours for asking. We simply haven't thought things through...yet. But the time is coming for this change. This is common sense. I hope this helps, John PS. And we can safely do vasectomies and hysterectomies ("partial spays") at any age we please, including the insanely early ages of before 4 months like they are doing in shelters. That is just nuts, even if we are focused on population control...like we should be. All it takes is a little thought and some basic understanding and this WILL change. Last edited by DogtorJ; 01-10-2010 at 05:39 PM. |
01-13-2010, 10:11 AM | #13 |
CURRENTLY SUSPENDED! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA, US
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| One more reason pro neutering - they get to hang out at places like this! Pawtropolis.com - the city that's gone to the dogs...and cats, too. PLEASE start one in your town! |
01-15-2010, 01:50 PM | #15 | |
CURRENTLY SUSPENDED! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA, US
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ok hey wait a minute. Is this nouveau medecine? Will my vet know about this? What about "noninvasive vasectomy using ultrasound"? What about these:: Neutersol, Cytotoxic? Cost comparison? Behavioral changes? Do these alternatives remove the URGE, or just the CAPABILITY? Where is the best place to read up??? | |
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