Help...Chronic Stomach Problems

[drawlins27]

Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze

I would not recommend give any medications to this puppy. I'l amazed at how quickly people will give medications.
Take that baby off of all food for one day. Give only water and some Nutri-Cal. After a day of cleansing, cook some "white" rice (about a cup cooked) and add a boiled egg to the rice. I use a potato masher to make sure it's mashed up really well. Feed this mixture several times a day as long as the puppy is not having any pain. If this works, then feed this for three days. On the fourth day you can add some tofu to the mix and feed for another three days. If that works, then try free range cooked ground beef to the mix for three more days as long as there is no pain. If all this works, then just feed these four things for at least a month. If you ever want to try a veggie, then make sure it's steamed. Like steamed broccoli. That's a very good veggie for them. Only try new foods for three days at a time before going on to anything else. No spices or gravys. If the first five items are well tolerated, you wouldn't need any other food. Just give a nice femur bone to chew on. Boil it first and clean out the marrow and any outside meat. The femur (also called marrow bone) bone does not splinter even after boiling it.

This would be my advice as well but you may want to substitute the water for Pedialyte. Please stay away from the Beneful. You can do a search and see that while Beneful has not been recalled yet, it is know to cause sickness and even resulted in the deaths of some dogs. I'm sure you can find another food that he likes, just keep trying. Have you tried Chicken Soup for the Dog Lover's Soul? That is a great food that even the pickiest dogs seem to like.

The yellow foamy stuff that he threw up could be bile and happens when too much stomach acid builds up overnight. My Bailey has that problem. I have to make sure he eats right before we go to bed and sometimes I get up in the middle of the night to feed him as well.

[kalina82]

Originally Posted by milosmom

Wow! Thanks for all the great information. Everyone here is so knowledgeable and helpful, it's comforting.

I feed him dry food - I'm embarassed to say it's Purina Beneful - but it's the only thing he will eat consistently. I have tried almost all the premuim foods with no success. Merrick, Flint River Ranch, Canide, Royal Canin, Natural Balance, I could go on and on. He eats so little of the "good" food (and sometimes drops in weight (his normal weight is 4.5 pounds)) that the vets have told me to just give him the Purina because he eats that with gusto. That is partially why I try to supplement with people food (meat and veggies), to give him better nutrition. I have tried Merrick venison before and he won't touch it. he won't eat canned food either, he doesn't seem to like the "wetness" of it.

We tried the elimination diet four weeks ago after our last vet visit. Rice and cottage cheese for three days, then cutting out everything but the dry kibble and his only treats are chicken jerky strips. Then he got sick again last week and yesterday. Last week he vomited one time in the morning - the yellowish foamy stuff. Other than that, it just seems to be the horrible, painful gas. Usually after one of these episodes, he has loose stool for about one day then it's back to normal.

First off welcome to YT!! glad you found us.

I was gonna suggest having him tested for IBD as well, which is still a good idea, but after reading this post, i highly suggest you take him off beneful. I've seen many dogs with stomach problems come into the vet office and the owners couldn't figure out why they were getting sick so often. Turns out they were being fed beneful. Once they were taken off this food and put on something better their stomach problems cleared up. Have you tried the natural balance duck and potato, or venison, or bison varieties? these are good for sensitive stomachs

[JESSY_RN2B]

Originally Posted by milosmom

Hi everyone,

I am new to this board and hoping you can all give me a little advice. My yorkie has chronic stomach problems, and no vet seems to be able to figure out what is going on. A little background.....he gets the terrible gurgling sounds in his stomach and walks around hunched up and clearly in pain. He won't eat or drink and doesn't want to be touched. Sometimes this will last for two days.

He has always been fed small amounts of people food along with a dry kibble diet. When this has happened in the past and I have taken him to the vet, they have always been quick to blame the people food and tell me it's "probably" pancreatitis. He has had bloodwork done multiple times, with no evidence of that. I have now taken him off people food completely for the last four weeks, and he became sick again last night and was still sick this morning.

I have found a new vet that I really like and he is trying very hard to figure this out, but I thought I would post here and see if there is anyone else that has experienced this problem on a regular basis. Last night, the vet told me to try giving him 1/4 of a 10mg Pepcid once or twice a day and see how that works. So don't feed both and see how it works.

I'm very frustrated and worried. Any advice?????

My Bobbi recently had a bout of this...........he gets real bad gas and arches his back when in pain. The gurgling is so loud too. The vet said to give him infant Mylicon.........and dry food only for 2 weeks. Let me tell you, they work wonders. I bet your furbabies pain is GAS PAIN

I suggest you either feed only dry food (I use Canidae) or only home cooked but not both. While this may work for some, it may be what works for yours.

Good luck and welcome aboard!

[zoe123]

Let us if anything works. I had a dog with the exact problem as yours. The vets never could find out what was wrong and in the end they diagnosed it as a stomach or small intestine problem. I think it was caused by bad dog food and over medication from the vets. Everytime they gave him a new pill he would get worse.

[fullthrottle]

Hello I have a beautiful 2 yr old yorkie w/ the same deal-same exact problem-I havent found a vet to figure it out either-I just once again went thru 2 days of gassy stomach and not eating-U n' I need to keep in touch best of luck to U too! jeani

[Mysweetbabies]

I had the same problem with Rosco. Dewerten (Debbie) helped me out with her suggestions. He has IBD. If he has any boiled chicken he has muscy poops with blood in it sometimes. Before I realized what was wrong the Vet had him on anitibotics and it wasn't helping. Debbie had me eliminate chicken. He has been doing good. He eats Natures Recipe lamb and rice.I'm not positive but I think potatoes irrate IBD worse? Hopefully Dewerten will reply soon.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Mysweetbabies

I had the same problem with Rosco. Dewerten (Debbie) helped me out with her suggestions. He has IBD. If he has any boiled chicken he has muscy poops with blood in it sometimes. Before I realized what was wrong the Vet had him on anitibotics and it wasn't helping. Debbie had me eliminate chicken. He has been doing good. He eats Natures Recipe lamb and rice.I'm not positive but I think potatoes irrate IBD worse? Hopefully Dewerten will reply soon.

yes it sounds like ibd issue to me - the intestines get inflamed and stuff can get trapped in intestinal tract thus causing gas build up to happen as well so this could very well be what is going on - Does your dog vomit or diarrhea at all or just gas?

per our internal medicine specialist she told me chicken may not work for ibd dogs as ibd is tied to food intolerance and allergy dogs tend to have ibd as well. Also white potato diets really upset my ibd dog so stay clear of inflammatory gassy foods and white potato is one of them. With ibd dogs i think grains work better. I would give the lamb and rice a shot - does it seem like your dog has constipation? If so I would do a little organic pumpkin as well. I get it at whole foods.

ibd will not show up on any blood work per se - the only thing that will give an indicator of it is if amylase and lipase are high but dog is not having pancreatitis symptoms and cpli is high but no symptoms of pancreatitis. The only true diagnosis is scoping the intestines and taking a biopsy but i never went that route as i got him on a diet that worked for him for 4 years now. He is on purina ha it is a hydrolized soy diet.

This breed has very sensitive stomachs and it is tough sometimes to get to the right formula that works

I have not heard of the baby gas pills but worth investigating until you can get on to a diet that works

pepcid a/c is used to control the stomach acids in stomach so the dog does not get an ulcer

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by zoe123

Let us if anything works. I had a dog with the exact problem as yours. The vets never could find out what was wrong and in the end they diagnosed it as a stomach or small intestine problem. I think it was caused by bad dog food and over medication from the vets. Everytime they gave him a new pill he would get worse.

they were probably giving antibiotics and those can cause diarrhea as well

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by kalina82

First off welcome to YT!! glad you found us.

I was gonna suggest having him tested for IBD as well, which is still a good idea, but after reading this post, i highly suggest you take him off beneful. I've seen many dogs with stomach problems come into the vet office and the owners couldn't figure out why they were getting sick so often. Turns out they were being fed beneful. Once they were taken off this food and put on something better their stomach problems cleared up. Have you tried the natural balance duck and potato, or venison, or bison varieties? these are good for sensitive stomachs

good post

i would do venison and sweet potato though over the duck and white potato but i would really tend to go with the rice over potato with ibd. sweet potato is not inflammatory though

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by TLC

The whole reason why I stumbbled upon Yoekietalk was b/c TJ was have those horrible episodes.

He would wake up in the morning and I just knew he wasn't feel right, then those LOUD girguling noises. TJ wouldn't eat (that's ok, I never forced him when he felt sick). Sometimes the noises would last ALL day, and other times it was shorter. It was the same routine though...

Noises - No Food - A tiny little 'log' of regular poop - Then a BIG glob of orange/yellow mucus - The TJ all better and starving hahaaha

This went on for a long time. We were at the Vet at least every 3 days. I kept a journal of what he ate and how he acted, etc...

The Vet suggested a strict diet to see if it was a food alleregy. At first I bought the Vet Food - IVD Duck & Potatoe flavor, but IMO that food is pure crap! So after one bag, I switched to Natural Balance Duck and Potato, and they also have a Duck and Potato Treat (cookie like treat). TJ was also give Metrodone also know as Flagy (I don't know the exact sp). This did not help at all. The food sorta helped. But then TJ started to also vomit and have all the other symtoms I mentioned above. We finally did blood work and everything was normal, except his Folate levels, they were extremely high. The Vet said, that they can't be exactly sure (they'd have to do a biopsy - no way!) - But they could venture to say he has some form of IBD and that the levels being so high they could venture to guess that TJ has an overgrowth of bacteria somewhere in his intestines.

We kept on the strict diet, but my Vet also suggested we try Tylan Powder. Just a 'tiny pinch' everyday in his food (I had to buy a can of Duck/Potato Wet) to be able to disguse the Tylan. Tylan you can get from your Vet and it is VERY safe, no long term side effects. My Vet had his own dog on Tylan Powder for her entire life!

Anyway, he got better! No more episodes and he can eat anything he wants! Which is Nature's Variety Raw Frozen medalions, steamed green beans, 1/4 of a sardine a day, a few liver treats, and about 10 pieces of Canidae Dry food (the weight management option).

Anyway, this was all about 1.5 years ago, I am sure I had so much more details about stuff in 'older posts'

Try doing a search here on YT for things like:
IBD
Tylan
Girguling

There are tons of threads

yes if you cannot control with diet the first thing after trying probiotics is tylosin powder as it has an anti-inflammatory agent in it that helps with ibd and can be given for life - it is very bitter though so you will have to disguise like TLC stated

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by milosmom

Wow! Thanks for all the great information. Everyone here is so knowledgeable and helpful, it's comforting.

I feed him dry food - I'm embarassed to say it's Purina Beneful - but it's the only thing he will eat consistently. I have tried almost all the premuim foods with no success. Merrick, Flint River Ranch, Canide, Royal Canin, Natural Balance, I could go on and on. He eats so little of the "good" food (and sometimes drops in weight (his normal weight is 4.5 pounds)) that the vets have told me to just give him the Purina because he eats that with gusto. That is partially why I try to supplement with people food (meat and veggies), to give him better nutrition. I have tried Merrick venison before and he won't touch it. he won't eat canned food either, he doesn't seem to like the "wetness" of it.

We tried the elimination diet four weeks ago after our last vet visit. Rice and cottage cheese for three days, then cutting out everything but the dry kibble and his only treats are chicken jerky strips. Then he got sick again last week and yesterday. Last week he vomited one time in the morning - the yellowish foamy stuff. Other than that, it just seems to be the horrible, painful gas. Usually after one of these episodes, he has loose stool for about one day then it's back to normal.

definitely chicken treats and beneful are contributing to it sounds like large intestines since diarrhea as small would be vomitting and i think the bile in am is empty stomach - if small intestines they vomit the food up not bile and large intestines they have diarrhea

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze

I would not recommend give any medications to this puppy. I'l amazed at how quickly people will give medications.
Take that baby off of all food for one day. Give only water and some Nutri-Cal. After a day of cleansing, cook some "white" rice (about a cup cooked) and add a boiled egg to the rice. I use a potato masher to make sure it's mashed up really well. Feed this mixture several times a day as long as the puppy is not having any pain. If this works, then feed this for three days. On the fourth day you can add some tofu to the mix and feed for another three days. If that works, then try free range cooked ground beef to the mix for three more days as long as there is no pain. If all this works, then just feed these four things for at least a month. If you ever want to try a veggie, then make sure it's steamed. Like steamed broccoli. That's a very good veggie for them. Only try new foods for three days at a time before going on to anything else. No spices or gravys. If the first five items are well tolerated, you wouldn't need any other food. Just give a nice femur bone to chew on. Boil it first and clean out the marrow and any outside meat. The femur (also called marrow bone) bone does not splinter even after boiling it.

broccoli is very gassy though so this might not be a veggie to use

[Mollysmom411999]

I too had stomach/pancreas trouble with my yorkie. This went on for a very long time and we had to eliminate things from her diet one at a time. It ended up being a food allergy showing its ugly head through vomitting, loose stools and skin problems. She is now on Blue Buffalo fish and sweet potato and a little cottage cheese in it in the morning. NO carrots, corn , yeast, even the pasta or wheat she would flare up. I have alot of money in vet bills to try to resolve but now I know. I sure hope you find out soon, cause it hurts! Debbie

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Mollysmom411999

I too had stomach/pancreas trouble with my yorkie. This went on for a very long time and we had to eliminate things from her diet one at a time. It ended up being a food allergy showing its ugly head through vomitting, loose stools and skin problems. She is now on Blue Buffalo fish and sweet potato and a little cottage cheese in it in the morning. NO carrots, corn , yeast, even the pasta or wheat she would flare up. I have alot of money in vet bills to try to resolve but now I know. I sure hope you find out soon, cause it hurts! Debbie

lol i can relate with the vet bills to figure it all out - it was a year and 10k later we figured it all out loll

[ally173]

my dog has IBD and i see many people on YT feeding cottage cheese; is that ok to feed to a dog? what about the sodium levels?
sometimes, my dog gives me hard time and won't eat her food; i was wondering if i can add some fat free cottage cheese.
thanks