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03-17-2014, 04:59 PM | #1 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: California
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| My baby is very sick :( I posted here 2 days ago about my new baby. She had some hypoglycemia, but seemed to recover well. Last night I was up with her every hour. She was vomiting and had diarrhea all night. I would get up with her, clean her up, offer her water each time and Karo Syrup every few hours and put her back to bed. This morning she just seemed tired. She could walk, but was unsteady and wobbly. I gave her some more Karo and the wobbling improved, but she had refused to eat for 24 hours. She was still drinking and peeing well. She is 9 weeks old and 1lb 7oz. I took her to the vet, they assumed she has Parvo. I couldn't believe it....I think it was a bad batch of puppy food from the breeder that she took back to the pet store after the puppies all got diarrhea. I figured if she has Parvo last Wednesday when she first got diarrhea, she'd be gone by now. Also, her siblings would be very sick, and they are all fine. I told the vet they weren't going to admit her and start IV fluid until they did a Parvo test.She was still drinking and urinating well, just tired and not eating. They did the rest and it was negative. The vet still thinks it's Parvo, he says sometimes the first test is negative if the virus isn't shedding in their stool (remember, she's been sick since Wednesday)? Sihe hasn't had diarrhea since early this morning, and since she is staying well hydrated I decided I could care for her better at home. She got a shot for nausea, anti stomach acid, and antibiotics. I gave her a wormer and anti diarrhea medicine they gave me when we got home. She has more antibiotics and anti nausea medicine they sent me home with. They also gave me liquid diet that looks like milk but has electrolytes, etc in it. I gave her some, but she threw it up. She is still drinking bottled water and urinating well thank God, but just sleeping and resting all day. I think the vet stressed her out. I'm very worried about my baby. The vet wasn't willing to say she will be ok, he was very concerned. Has this happened to anyone else? Please say a prayer for my Lyla. |
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03-18-2014, 04:39 AM | #2 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Hi and welcome to YT...sorry it's under these circumstances. If I were you, I'd get back to the vet TODAY ASAP and get that puppy connected to an IV for fluids. With what your pup has gone through and still IS going through - she could die, and fast. When young puppies have vomiting/diarrhea for any extended period of time, they can go down FAST. PLEASE go back to the vet and check her into inpatient care. Err on the side of caution if you want to save her life.
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03-18-2014, 04:52 AM | #3 | |
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03-18-2014, 04:58 AM | #4 |
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| To vet ASAP. This baby was taken from momma too early to have started her vaccinations, so you have a baby that has no protection against parvo. Parvo is a terrible disease and runs rampant in public. If I could snap my fingers and make ONE thing law, it would be that ALL puppies MUST stay with mommas until 14 weeks old, and puppy shots must be started at 8 weeks, and then every 3 weeks until at least 3 core shots are given. NO babies should be sold without being vaccinated....get that baby to a vet and get treatment and hydration for that baby or she will die.....if she has parvo, it may already be too late. CONTACT YOUR BREEDER IMMEDIATELY and let her know what you are going through! Last edited by Yorkiemom1; 03-18-2014 at 05:00 AM. |
03-18-2014, 05:03 AM | #5 |
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| I see a couple issues with your situation. First, it seems you are not confident with your vet. If this is the case you need to bring her to a vet that your are willing to follow the advice they offer you for her well being. The next issue is she is still sick a week after first seeing a vet. You need to get her back to the vet this morning...today and follow their instructions for her care. Wylie's Mom is correct in the fact that you could lose her with what is going on. When you have a tiny 1 lb 4 oz puppy who is basically living on the sugar of karo syrup for 24 hours due to refusal to eat (for whatever reason) her not feeling quickly rises to a medical emergency. She need IV fluids in the very least to try turning her around. Poor baby
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03-18-2014, 05:03 AM | #6 |
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| Hi and Welcome to YT! I saw your first thread.... I would call the breeder again and see if she can keep your puppy until she's 12 weeks old and closer to 2 lbs. Puppies less than 12 weeks old are very prone to hypoglycemia. Some protein should be given everytime after karo syrup is given to help stabilize the blood glucose, and pups need to be kept warm when they are fed. I feel the breeder and her vet are more capable to get this pup though this.... her best chance would be with them at this point. Praying for your little Layla...
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03-18-2014, 05:35 AM | #7 |
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| Here's the original thread for reference: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sic...ble-scare.html I agree with Rhettsmom regarding the original vet called being an ER Vet now that I've read the original information. As she said, an ER Vet would state ahead of time the cost of treatment as well as expecting payment upfront and the costs are never cheap. Your post also addressed my question of where the puppy came from which is a private breeder. Even with all this information my original post still stands true. You also mention you are a nurse and there are several other nurses posting to both of your threads telling you the same thing. She needs a vet today and without hesitation. I see no point involving the breeder further or trying to return Layla back to her now. Although it's not wise to allow tiny puppies to leave their momma's as such a young age or weight it's not a point of argument or blame at this point. The facts are pretty simple, Layla is not getting better, needs to be seen again today by a vet and she is dependent.
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03-18-2014, 05:49 AM | #8 | |
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Your puppy needs to be with a vet....and if you don't trust the one you have, go to another. If money is a concern, you might want to apply for Care Credit...you can get immediate approval online. Healthcare and Medical Financing for Consumers | CareCredit™ As I told you in the other thread, proper vetting is not cheap. The way things are going, I fear you will lose this puppy.
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03-18-2014, 06:43 AM | #9 |
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| A negative parvo test is irrelevant. The diagnosis doesn't matter as much as the fact that she is not getting supportive care. IV needed now.
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03-18-2014, 06:56 AM | #10 |
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| She took her to the vet last night... my post was to save her the heartache of going through all this. Praying for Lyla...
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03-18-2014, 07:27 AM | #11 |
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| sending many payers for Lyla to pull through.
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03-18-2014, 07:44 AM | #12 |
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| I would hope her breeder had enough concern for the puppy and the new owner's inexperience, that she would step up and at least offer to help this owner with a knowledge base of some kind....but then I do not leave my new owners twisting in the wind while their new baby has medical emergencies. When a new owner is lost and confused and scared to death, the very least a breeder can do is provide emotional support. I am hopeful this baby is at a vet that has properly diagnosed and is providing care this baby needs. Last edited by Yorkiemom1; 03-18-2014 at 07:46 AM. |
03-18-2014, 08:08 AM | #13 |
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| Have you considered another opinion? Sounds like your little one needs IVs badly and more frequent medical assessment...be insistent - you are all she has....prayers for you and Lyla |
03-18-2014, 08:39 AM | #14 |
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| My understanding is that the vet wanted to put this puppy on IVs and the OP refused.
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03-18-2014, 08:53 AM | #15 |
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| Thank you all SO MUCH for your prayers, concern, and advice! The breeder has contacted me every few hours to check on Lyla. She has been a great emotional support to me. As to leaving her dog mommy too early I agree, but.....here is the story: the breeder was contacted by an old lady who sold her a yorkie a few years ago. She cried and said her boy got her girl pregnant and she is just too old and can't "do" puppies anymore and asked if she would buy her. My breeder bought her, but she was extremely depressed and when the puppies were born she wouldn't take care of them. My breeder had to sit with her so the puppies could nurse. Shortly thereafter the mama dog barely ate and was losing weight and looked horrible. The puppies were eating dry food well, the she took the mama back to the old lady. The mama jumped into her arms and the old lady was so grateful. They were so bonded, and needed each other. She told my breeder that she couldn't afford to buy her back, but my breeder said not to worry she is just happy they are together again and in 4 months she will return to take the mama and get her spayed. So my little baby wouldn't have had her dog mama regardless..... Now to Lyla, no I did not trust the vet because I am a critical care nurse for tiny, fragile preemies and what he was telling me didn't make sense. She had her first set of shots (I know that doesn't completely protect them), the other puppies got over their diarrhea and were fine, she hasn't been outdoors at all except at the breeders with the other puppies, and if she had Parvo she would have passed days ago. I just didn't believe the Parvo bit at all. She was drinking and urinating well, and I truly felt as long as she kept that up she didn't need IV fluids and i could care for her better at home with less stress to her. I believe I was right. I kept her warm and gave her the liquid diet with a syringe when I got home and she threw it up a half hour later so as we would do for a human preemie I gave her tummy a rest for several hours. She slept and slept, waking to pee and I would take her to her water dish and she would drink then go back to sleep. Late in the evening I gave her another dose of her meds and she went to her food dish, sniffing around. I poured some liquid diet in her bowl and she lapped it right up. She had trouble settling down for bed because she slept all day and wanted to play! She continued to drink water, urinate, drink her food through the night. There has been no more vomiting or diarrhea! So I am only giving her the antibiotics now and just keeping her warm, fed, and hydrated. Which is easier said than done when all she wants to do is chase the boxer around the house and play! She woke me up this morning with a dozen tiny puppy kisses on my face, bright eyes, wagging tail, and full of energy. I think my nursing instincts served me well this time, I honestly don't think she would have done as well at the vets without the individual attention and all the extra stress of being there. I will say I would have RUSHED her back to the vet had she stopped drinking water well. We still don't know what made her sick, there are many "Parvo-like" viruses out there and who knows what else. I am just beyond grateful that my baby is doing so well.I'm continuing her "intensive care" at home, but I think she is out of danger now. I would like to start her back on solid foods this afternoon. What do you all think about Gerber baby chicken? Bland enough? THANK YOU ALL again so much, I am thankful to have found this community of kind souls who understands how totally in love I am with my new baby, and cares enough to take time to try to help. You are all wonderful! {{{{{{{{}}}}}}}} |
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