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Villette, in a 12 year old dog, most boarded vets do not recommend surgery on patellar luxations. There are many vets who will do them, but honestly in an older pup I would consider spending the few extra dollars for the opinion of one who is boarded. We have a great one in Houston and he has advised against surgery on the older ones unless they simply cannot use the leg which is usually a torn ccl. |
I should clarify the above post.... If a pup is older and has had patellar luxation, there is a higher probability of them tearing the cruciate ligament. If you do surgery to repair the LP the ligament is still in the same shape from being worn down over the years. Then, if the pup tears the ligament, you are looking at another surgery. He advises against surgery on LP for older pups mainly for that reason.... |
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Okay mine came from canineicer.com |
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Thanks to everyone for the advice, and keep it coming! It's too many posts to reply to every single one, but there's a solid body of knowledge and experience there, and I (and others going through the same thing) appreciate it! |
I didn't do Rehab with my dog who had a MPL repair at age 2. This same dog now age almost 14 has a grade IV MPL in the other leg that wasn't recommended to be repaired. Over the years when she had some lameness, the recommendation still was to see if conservative rest brought her back around. Since she has been diagnosed with liver disease, anti-inflammatory meds were not appropriate so we used rest, warm heat at times, and tramadol for any pain. She recovered each and every time. Just last year, she again was limping and I took her to a surgeon who is board certified for an opinion and he said that the benefits of the surgery at this stage in her life were clearly outweighed by the risks to her given her age and other medical concerns. I didn't have faith that she would pull through but after a good 4-6 weeks of rest she is 100% again. So I think one should proceed cautiously with surgery in an older dog for this problem. I had a discussion wih our dr at the time and he said he would have fixed her leg as a pup, but that others are divergent on that opinion. Her surgery was done by another boarded surgeon who I mentioned does over 4,000 of these a year and he said no. He may have decided differently in recent years as my friend's puppy had surgery with him. She was unable to stop limping. I think my Daisy being light and small has worked to help her with this problem. Anyway we didn't do rehab and my friend didn't either. I did do it with my other dog who had a CCL tear and complications and I can tell you that it cost a lot. I think they bounce back a lot on their own like LJ said. |
Yes rehab is expensive, and as always consultation with your specialists and vets is advised as to how much and what kind etc. But I am a true believer in rehab, which is why my new gal has insurance coverage which includes many many forms of rehab. Once you get to know the exercises and can do them well with your pup, much rehab can be done at home. Is rehab always necessary? Well I don't know, but I do know that proper rehab can aid in healing times, and overall fitness for the dog. |
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Prayers to you and dearest Bella >3 |
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Bella is not on any medications for her LP at this time. She does not seem to be in any pain, not even when she's walking on her affected leg (not even a flinch), but others in this thread have noted that Yorkies can be stoic about expressing discomfort. In some respects, I'd be concerned about medicating her unnecessarily, especially with the pain meds, since they could mask issues when she is feeling extreme pain, or perhaps cause her to use her affected leg more often than she safely should. I haven't heard about anti-inflammatories being prescribed for LP prior to surgery. What is your experience with them? Would it be a mild drug like metacam, or something more hardcore like a steroid? |
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Here are some words on dogs in pain and just my own opinion but it's based on years of reading about and observing canine pain, dog pack dynamics, canine instincts and behavior, etc., and years and years of working with dogs in foster and my own dogs and hundreds of vet visits with hurting dogs. I'd give my dog half doses of pain Rx if I were very fearful of it but I'd want any baby in my guardianship not to be in pain when I knew they had it, despite how well he or she is masking the pain. But a limping dog is no doubt feeling pain or the dog would use the leg normally. Pain medicine won't mask their pain to the point they are going to injure themselves unless they are over-medicated. I hate the idea of a dog suffering simply because they won't cry out or whine or talk and tell us how they ache and hurt, which they never can do. I hurt but still walk on my painful hip and leg when I have to - so do dogs. But I have medication to ease that pain - cannot imagine living in pain with sleep being my only outlet from it. Either pain Rx or anti-inflammatories could keep a little one far more comfortable for the next weeks and relieve the stress of pain and if far better than hurting. All dogs are stoic to some degree and hide their discomfort to every extent possible instinctively in order to try to stay safe and keep themselves from being shunned/left behind by their pack or attacked by other animals because they are weak. That instinct often requires they needlessly suffer in domestication now that we know they feel pain but are usually masters at hiding all but sudden or shocking type pain. Dogs with traumatic amputations on one leg will still act friendly, wag their tail and even try to play once a little time has passed after the initial trauma. But sentient animals like canines hurt when they have painful medical conditions, injuries or surgery and need human intervention and help when they do. |
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