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I can't imagine what could have caused him to throw it up. If he's acting ok right now, I wouldn't worry too much. If it happens again today, I would be worrying. Sending you and Tibbe my very best wishes. |
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Poor Tibbe! I wonder if since one of the side effects of the Pepcid is loss of appetite, if that would mean that he's a bit nauseous? I don't know, but sure wish that his poor tummy would just knock it off, already! Poor baby:( And poor Mom, too, you must be so frustrated and worried. I hope the vet can figure out something to get his belly straightened out. Maybe he needs some probiotics? Sending more get well wishes to your handsome little one:love: |
Tibbe has spent a quiet day just laying around, doing little. He's had his dose of Pepcid & I also gave him his nausea medication. He keeps refusing his kibble - tried the old Iams, the Science Diet & his Royal Canin - turns his nose, but tried to gulp down a piece of cold pizza I offered him just to see if he'd be interested. Offered him some Oroweat bread - tried to get it, too. Kibble - turns his head. Finally soaked some Royal Canin & he ate about half of the 1/4 cup of kibble. He's toileted completely normally & is alert when you call him but just lying there the rest of the time. His tummy feels firm to me, not soft. Decide to wait until tomorrow to take him back in to try to see if there is anything more I can put my finger on. No more spitting up, vomiting, though I think I did see him refluxing but didn't catch the whole thing. Took his temp - it is 101.2 degrees - just about where it always is. I'm wondering if the Pepcid just hasn't had time to really heal his irritated esophagus, if that is part of what was wrong. We'll see what the night & tomorrow bring. Just can't help but worry something else might be going on. This dog is normally a perpetual motion machine. |
I hope he has a good day tomorrow. I suppose it's possible his throat is irritated and perhaps it is uncomfortable for him to swallow the kibble??? I don't know. Hoping to hear a good report on Tibbe tomorrow. |
Just some thoughts. On 5/27 he was 95% better. Right after that you weaned the pred. Are you sure he didn't go downhill right after that? Is he still on tramadol? It doesn't soud like there is a good reason for inappetance right now. My concern would be that this started weeks ago...with a pain near his front legs/neck...and he seems to want to lay aroud, he is restless, not wanting to eat, etc.. Could be stomach, but looking at where this started, I have to wonder if he is ouchy. ellie gets sorta like that when she flares, except she will always eat. And the first vet that saw her had palpated her back and got no pain response. My vetthen did it and found the problem right away. Some are very gentle... If you are headed back tomorrow, I'd make sure they palpate again. Thinking about Tibbe often. This has got to be so hard to watch.:( |
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Also, is Tibbe on any probiotics? Probiotics/digestive enzymes is the best thing any Yorkie owner can do for their pups with tummy issues, especially during times of stress or when on medication. Also have concerns about possible aspiration with his vomiting... could also be a cause for his lethargy... Tibbe has been and will be in my thoughts and prayers... |
Checking in for updates on Tibbe. |
He refused his food today until about noon, when he ate some of his Royal Canin G-I soaked in water. I used 3 tablespoons of kibble, added 1/4 cup water & he ate about 1/3 of that. Vet instructions are to give him his nausea medication if he refuses food so I did give that this morning, 2 hours before he ate some. I left his food down when I went to PT & got the car inspected, came back & he hadn't touched it, but almost immediately ate most of what was left in the bowl while I was showering & changing clothes. Thank the Lord! That's still not much actual food but at least he ate most of the 3 tablespoons of kibble. Will try an evening meal later tonight. Each time he's checked out by the vet they palpate, check ROM of his neck, back, (as well as all major joints) since IVDD has been a differential dx. since his 5-23-12 date of onset sx. & he never reacts. Neuro's always normal throughout. His tummy feels full, firm a good deal of the time to me, even when it's not, though it can get quite soft & slack at times. Vet thinks that his tummy adjusting to all the changes in his food & neither vet is that impressed by it when they see him. No reverse sneezing since he started on the Pepcid, which I've yet to give him today - waiting until tonight so he won't have both the nausea meds & Pepcid going in about the same time - maybe conspiring to make him extra sleepy. One of the side effects of Pepcid, though in only about 10% of cases, is loss of appetite & lethargy/tiredness. Hoping that is what is going on here. Vet said just keep observing him, doing what I'm doing & if no changes, we'll leave off Pepcid a while to see if he won't spring back before doing more in depth testing. His toileting still totally normal & no more vomiting, though this morning he did straighten out his neck, head down & licking his lips a few times, acted once or twice as if he was about to retch but didn't. His ears were low to the side, tail down. Even though he's no longer acting like that, he's been asleep since about an hour after I got back home. He's sure not his usual Tibbe self that toots around the house like a tornado until weekend before last - that is when he seemed to turn some corner for the worse after eating all that food & started all the tummy stuff, reverse sneezing & the minimal burp/belch bouts started in earnest, just about the time I began weaning him off Prednisolone after he had a good blood level of it. |
I hope he does better tomorrow. I just don't understand why he's not eating, unless the Pred gave him an ulcer. Sending hugs to Tibbe!:) |
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I wonder if it could be the anti-nausea med as well? I just don't know. |
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Hope Tibbe is back to normal soon. It's frustrating when our babies are sick or hurting since they can't tell us with words what's wrong. |
Thinking of you and Tibbe today, hoping he is better soon |
Well, Tibbe ate all the food I left down for him last night before going to bed sometime after I went to sleep! I had measured out 4 1/2 tablespoons of kibble & added about 1/4 cup of water last evening & he ate a small portion of that earlier in th evening & I put the remainder in the fridge to keep from spoiling but took it out before bedtime - just in case his blood sugar would drop or he'd get hungry. He did! I never did give him his Pepcid yesterday as he had his Cerenia for nausea on board & was sleeping so much. This morning he's bright-eyed & bushy tailed & seems back to the 95% status! When you look at him, he's not glazed over looking like he's been seemingly since he started the Pepcid AC 20 mg., 1/4 every 12 hours. That Pepcid AC I buy is a tiny pill & he only gets 1/4 of that - a very tiny little bit. And, boy, it seems to have stopped his reflux/belching/burping with the after swallowing/licking that goes along plus no reverse sneezing, but oh, it seems to turn him into a zombie when he's on it. Hopefully, today's dose will not hit him so hard. I'm thinking of maybe giving him 1/8th of a pill but will ask the vet first. Had normal BM last night & this a.m. & no vomiting/spit-up/reverse sneezing, ears/tail up, frisky. Hopefully, he'll keep getting better from here. He's looking at me in that way he does when he wants me to do something for him - I think he's getting hungry. Hope so! |
I'm glad he's doing better... I do know that just eating a ton of kibble followed by a lot of water can mess up any dog's digestion. The kibble is dry, so it will absorb fluids from the intestines, then when a bunch of water is added, it can swell to 2-3 times it's normal size. So he may have had a mix of too wet and too dry kibble trying to get through his system, and trouble digesting it all, which could cause excess gas and belching. Just having too much in his tummy could cause the reflux and inappetance. I've seen this happen when big dogs get into a bag of food, they eat till they can't eat anymore, and with the dry kibble, it makes them thirsty so they drink a ton of water. It can also cause them to bloat. |
So happy to hear Tibbe did well today.:) |
Tibbe refused his food this morning & when I got back from PT, there were small spots of mucous diarrhea throughout the living room & a fairly normal stool in the bedroom. So unlike Tibbe! He's totally housetrained & clean in the house. He's also been scratching a lot since being on the Royal Canin though he has no fleas at all. Back to the vet we went - saw a different one this time. Everything once again all WNL & the stool sample I took in showed nothing besides some tiny bit of mucous. Vet thinks it could be the small amount of pizza he snapped out of my fingers yesterday when he was refusing his food & I was testing him to see if he would show interest in bread or anything besides his kibble. I held a bit of cold pizza toward his mouth with my fingers over the end of it & somehow that dog still got by my fingers as he jumped & grabbed a bit of pizza within my hand B4 I know it! I didn't see his BM last night to see if he had any diarrhea then but he had no watery/gassy sounds in his gut last night, unlike today. The vet said that bit of pizza on top of his already unhappy gut could have caused the mucous bits in the stool. No definitive diagnosis given. So, we were sent home with some more Hill's GI I/D to mix with RC GI & to change to eventually since he seemed to do better on that can of Hill's ID we tried last week & I was told to restart his Pepcid AC once every 12 hours for a few days. (I'd kept him off it x2 days as it made him so sleepy & food-resistant). Within 20 minutes of giving him the Pepcid, he's sound asleep. I hope he does as well on the Hill's this week as he did last week. If so, we're staying on it for a while. |
I sure hope your little guy recovers from this quickly and I will say a prayer for that! I hope there is good news tomorrow! |
I'm hopeful tomorrow is a better day! He's sleeping like he was given morphine or something. That Pepcid just knocks him right out for hours. It's kind of scary. I was just wondering if a BAT might be useful. All his regular liver studies and his 2 recent CBC's, chemistries, whatever all they do are all WNL as was his CPL. If this gassy tummy, refusing food, some diarrhea keeps up, should I ask for BAT? Not one of the four different vets who have seen him has mentioned doing that test. |
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That's funny that not one vet suggested doing a BAT. Usually they want to do it no matter what symptoms are showing. |
They may have done it, going to have to get out my file & check. Emergency vet x-rayed him from head to toe when his problems first started on 5-23-12 & did all the bloodwork about 12 hours later when I took him back in to ER & all WNL, said get a CPL if he continues to have any problems since a high lipase was his only high value. He said all other liver studies WNL & he said "I was particularly looking for liver values". Did stool/urine also. Then 6-8-12, his regular vet did CPL & another CBC, differential & one other test - forget what that was, plus another fecal. Then yesterday, another fecal done. I've got to get out my billings & look to see if BAT done. |
How is Tibbe today? |
He ate his Hill's I/D which I missed with his RC GI kibble but he seems to be sleeping a lot. Hopefully, it is the Pepcid AC causing it. No more mucous in his stool. Just waiting & watching, hoping he starts actually being himself soon. |
Poor little guy! I sure hope he's recovered and back to himself soon. I've given pepcid AC to my dogs a time or two, but can't remember if they acted tired from it. |
We were back to the vet again this evening. Tibbe started scooting on his behind this morning once & then did it again when I called him to come into the den. He actually stopped on his way to scoot/scratch his bottom on the floor & then finished coming into the den. So off we went to the vet again. Vet said his anal sacs were quite full, expresse them & cleansed his rear end very well. I wonder if they have been bothering him and that's another reason he's been so inactive, though tonight, he did seem to perk up after that treatment. Had a good dinner, drank his water, normal pottying & such. He's cuddled with me now on his back watching Mothra - that old Japanese horror movie from years back. So silly but its so campy I cannot help watching it! I hope tomorrow he's perky again & hope it was those anals maybe making him mopey these last few days. With all the vet visits he's had lately, you would think one of them would have picked that up!!! We've been to the vet 4 times since 6-8-12. |
Our lil Tibbe has to be better soon! Love that face, can I have an 8x11 or your avatar? :) |
How is Mr. Tibbe doing today? I hope he has a great Saturday!:) |
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