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02-04-2011, 10:35 AM | #1 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: carlisle
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| Neurological Issue In Back (back legs weak) HELP! Hi, my 2 yr old yorkie baby suddenly started wobbling - he runs a bit sideways, can no longer use steps greater than about 6 inches. Took him to the vet every day for the last 3 days. At first they thought it was something strained and gave him pain meds. Then I just knew it wasn't that and took him back - the vet was very vague and said it was probably neurological in nature. Then today I took him to a different vet for another opinion - she did xrays and bloodwork - xrays are all fine, and we are waiting for the bloodwork on monday. We are also taking him to a vet neuro. on monday in Maryland (Dr. Schueler). Sometimes his legs seem worse than others. Since he hasn't lost any control of bowels/urination, he is very alert, happy, in NO pain, isn't running into walls, etc. - the vet has said it's most likely NOT in his brain - but neurological in his back. As I said, the xrays looked fine to her, no slipped disc, inflammation, ect. - Has ANYONE ever had anything similar or have any advice??? Please help! I'm taking him to the neuro on monday, so I should have more answers - I'm just on the edge of my seat - I just love my furbaby so much! It just hurts to see him go through this - is there any light at the end of the tunnel?? Thank you in advance for your time! |
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02-04-2011, 11:14 AM | #2 |
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| Hi, Sorry to hear about your pup not doing well. Your post really concerns me as this could possibly be an emergency situation... is there any way to have him seen by neuro sooner? You could call them and ask if they see emergencies... may cost extra but would be worth doing. If not, I have to recommend that you keep him confined, until you can get a definite diagnosis. When was your pup last vaccinated, and what vaccines did he get?
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02-04-2011, 11:45 AM | #3 |
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| Here are a couple Board Certified Neuros that may be close to you: Dr. John J. (Jay) McDonnell (This one does mobile too) School of Veterinary Medicine University of Pennsylvania 3900 Delancey St. Philadelphia, PA 19104-4192 Tel: 215-573-3592; 215-898-6678 Email: info&drjaymcdonnell.com www.drjaymcdonnell.com; www.vet.upenn.edu Dr. Edward MacKillop Pittsburgh Veterinary Specialty & Emergency Center 807 Camp Horne Road Pittsburgh, PA 15237 Tel: 412-366-3400 Email: emackillop@pvs-ec.com Pittsburgh Veterinary Specialty & Emergency Center
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02-04-2011, 12:07 PM | #4 |
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| thank you, I appreciate your fast response, I too had planned and emergency visit (actually MD is closer and Dr. Schueler comes HIGHLY recommended) - but all 3 vets that I've seen do not think this is an immediate thing - I asked SEVERAL times if this could wait until monday and they all said yes, it's not life threatening, and he is taking it very easy at home - confined to living room (no steps and we lift him on and off furniture) Believe me, if by the off chance this does get any worse, we will be in MD for an emergency (he does offer 24/7 emergency care). Thank you though, I very much appreciate your time and input! |
02-04-2011, 12:30 PM | #5 |
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| There are 2-3 specific conditions that affect Yorkies and can begin as you described and are emergencies. Did they check him for an inner ear infection? Also, Did they specifically look at the junction of the spine and the skull? Does he try to scratch his neck alot? Are his eyes functioning normally, look equal, etc., any head tilt going on, any circling? When was he last vaccinated? Within a month or two? Did he get Rabies and DHPP or DHLPP at the same time? How much does he weigh? Any pain, avoidance of being touched or petted? Any yelping or crying out?
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02-04-2011, 01:03 PM | #6 |
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| I'm trying hard not to be a pest.... I see Dr. Schueler is Board Certified which is great and great that he's 24/7. I forgot to ask... did he take any jumps off the furniture or stairs and have an awkward landing? I really am only trying to help, we have had a few similar cases here on YT, but I don't want to overwhelm you by pointing you to all of them. If you could answer the questions, I may be able to narrow it down some and give you links to the most appropriate cases that are most similar to what your dog is doing. Many of these cases were overlooked by regular vets and the diagnoses were not made until the dog had been seen by a neurologist. Some had never been diagnosed. It bothers me that the first three vets don't know what is wrong, but can tell you it's not an emergengy. There is 'light at the end of the tunnel', but the earlier these disorders are diagnosed, the sooner the pup is treated. Time can be an extremely critical factor in these instances. I will follow this thread to see what happens Monday, and I sincerely wish you the very best of luck and a speedy diagnosis and recovery for your baby.... Oh, Hi and Welcome to YT! (although I wish it was under better circumstances)
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02-04-2011, 03:05 PM | #7 |
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| I understand, believe me, I've been doing my research. Ripken was twisted and turned and poked and they couldn't find ANY pain. So there isn't really one instance of trauma per say (they suspect if it was one instance he would have pain associated with it) - but yes, he is 3lbs and is the smallest of 3 dogs in our house - one other dog is 5lbs and one is 15lbs - he sees them both jump on and off furniture and so (even though he has stairs) sometimes decides to jump on and off. No horrible lands that I know of, but it is quite possible. Even with this ice storm here - I guess he could have twisted something. It's been really hard b/c I'm trying to make the decisions that are right for him, and it is breaking my heart to see him this way. However, he isn't in any pain, his spirits are up, he plays a little, chews on his toys, etc. Nothing is different other than his back legs - no difficulties w/ bathroom, no scratching, same appetite/fluid intake, same personality, etc. I'm baffled. They said it's neurologic in nature and would have to be properly diagnosed by Dr. Shueler. I am prepared, if he gets worse in any way, to make the emergency call, but as of now, I'm going to not let my eyes off of him (he goes EVERYWHERE w/ me) and take the best care of him I can. I have been video taping anything and everything for Dr. Schuelers reference on monday, so he can see what exactly the symptoms are for himself. Thank you for your concern - any of the cases you mentioned would be helpful for me to read - thanks! |
02-07-2011, 06:43 AM | #8 |
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| I'll keep your little one in my prayers for a good outcome today at the vet's....
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02-07-2011, 07:01 AM | #9 |
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| Welcome to YT and good luck today at the vet! I am going to PM the admin to request that this thread be moved to Sick and Injured Forum. You will get lots of feedback there!
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02-07-2011, 07:30 AM | #10 |
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| Oh...and by the way it sounds like your vet has a good idea where the problem is. The best way to diagnose a pup is hands on ... doing it on the internet is a lost cause especially when it is neurological since there are so many different things it could be. You are doing exactly what should be done by following up with a neurologist. Guessing what it is can only stress you out imho. I have a pup here...a foster.....she has problems with her hind legs and my vet after a thorough exam and also xrays felt it was in the middle part of her back. Went to the neurologist who said the exact same thing. They are doing a myelogram and CT Scan this week to see what it is. Again, good luck today. I will check back later on to see how things went.
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| Adding my well wishes. Please update when you can.
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02-07-2011, 08:26 PM | #13 |
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| Checking in for an update... hope all went well today...
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02-07-2011, 11:25 PM | #14 |
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| Praying this baby will be ok. Please update soon. |
02-08-2011, 07:59 AM | #15 |
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| I am just seeing this now. I hope your baby can see a neurologist as soon as possible. Do you have a crate for him at all? It is very tough to see disc issues with an x-ray because it would just show a very very slight narrowing between vertebrae that's very hard to detect with the naked eye. I am guessing a neurologist may run an MRI or Myelogram to figure out if there is something going on with his spine. Good luck! I will check back for updates.
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