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Old 05-25-2009, 05:01 PM   #1
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Sad Bailey's got Pancreatitis

I took Bailey to the Vet today because he was acting weird. He wouldn't eat, take treats and he was shaking. He's been having diarreah on/off for 2 weeks now. When I took him to the ER vet, they did blood work on him and compared it with his last 3 sets of blood work. They said that a lot of his levels were elevated and that he has Pancreatitis . They put him on an antibiotic for his IBD called Metronidazole 250mg (1/2 pill a day). They also put IV fluid under his skin (subcutaneous fluid). His stool was FINALLY better tonight, BUT this makes me so sad. Can someone tell me what Pancreatitis is? The vet did explain it to me, but I was in a state of shock and I had just broken my finger right before I took him to ER so I'm a little confused as to what this all means now. Any input would be helpful! Thanks!!!
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Pancreatitis is an inflammation of the pancreas, an organ that is important in digestion. Pancreatitis can be acute (beginning suddenly, usually with the patient recovering fully) or chronic (progressing slowly with continued, permanent injury to the pancreas).

Acute pancreatitis occurs when the pancreas suddenly becomes inflamed but improves. Patients recover fully from the disease, and in almost 90% of cases the symptoms disappear within about a week after treatment. The pancreas returns to its normal architecture and functioning after healing from the illness. After an attack of acute pancreatitis, tissue and cells of the pancreas return to normal. With chronic pancreatitis, damage to the pancreas occurs slowly over time. Symptoms may be persistent or sporadic, but the condition does not disappear and the pancreas is permanently impaired. Pancreatic tissue is damaged, and the tissue and cells function poorly

I googled that so I hope that helps a little. And that was the def. for humans so I'm not sure if it's the same in pups but maybe it will give you an idea~ So sorry to hear he's sick!

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good link to check out
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Old 05-25-2009, 05:19 PM   #4
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Thanks for your definition!!! I think he said it's Chronic Pancreatitis. He said he's a little underweight and with his bathroom problems and the bloodwork, it all makes sense. He's had this problem once before too. If the medicine doesn't cure this, he wants to do a different test on his pancreas.
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Old 05-25-2009, 05:22 PM   #5
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Layla has pancreatits as do many dogs on YT- I'm surprised how often I see posts like yours. While it is very scary right now and pancreastitis is very serious- it can be well managed.

I (as have many on YT) contacted a nutrionist right after i got the diagnosis- Layla's vet wanted me to feed her some canned crap which was not going to happen. I had a consult with Susan Davis (Holistic Veterinarian Pet Nutritionist Holistic Pet Care) and Layla is now on a speical home cooked diet which is VERY low in fat- she is also on a lypase enzyme which helps her pancrease in that it does not have to make it itself. Layla's Spec numbers were in the 800's in the midst of our problems (in October) and we went back in Feb to be rechecked and she is now in the 100's- I can honestly say Susan saved Layla's life and saved her from a life on horrible food.

So no matter which way you go- LOW fat is what is going to make all the difference- no more meat based treats- only veggie or fruit based. It is very hard to find a quality low fat food (i had to find one that also didn't contain chicken as layla is very very allergic) which is why we went the direction of the nutritionist- also based on the wonderful comments i received on here about Susan.
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I am very sorry Bailey has Pancreatits. I have heard that once a dog has it they can get it again However, it can be controlled with propper diet. I am very glad the vet is taking very good care of him right now, and giving him what he needs to get well.
My thoughts and prayers are with you and Bailey.
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Layla has pancreatits as do many dogs on YT- I'm surprised how often I see posts like yours. While it is very scary right now and pancreastitis is very serious- it can be well managed.

I (as have many on YT) contacted a nutrionist right after i got the diagnosis- Layla's vet wanted me to feed her some canned crap which was not going to happen. I had a consult with Susan Davis (Holistic Veterinarian Pet Nutritionist Holistic Pet Care) and Layla is now on a speical home cooked diet which is VERY low in fat- she is also on a lypase enzyme which helps her pancrease in that it does not have to make it itself. Layla's Spec numbers were in the 800's in the midst of our problems (in October) and we went back in Feb to be rechecked and she is now in the 100's- I can honestly say Susan saved Layla's life and saved her from a life on horrible food.

So no matter which way you go- LOW fat is what is going to make all the difference- no more meat based treats- only veggie or fruit based. It is very hard to find a quality low fat food (i had to find one that also didn't contain chicken as layla is very very allergic) which is why we went the direction of the nutritionist- also based on the wonderful comments i received on here about Susan.
Thanks, I actually have an phone appt. with her on Wed. at 12:30. I'm going to make sure I have all my vet paperwork with me to read to her. Right now he's on the canned crap and I can't wait to get him off of it!!! Thank got he's got the medicine to help him with the switch of foods.
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Thanks, I actually have an phone appt. with her on Wed. at 12:30. I'm going to make sure I have all my vet paperwork with me to read to her. Right now he's on the canned crap and I can't wait to get him off of it!!! Thank got he's got the medicine to help him with the switch of foods.
Good job Mom- this is going to be THE best money you have ever spent. Susan is great- does not push anything on you (She highly recommends Nature's Variety- but I wasn't going to feed raw- ) but the all the supplements she recommended- i bought and we use daily. She is phenomenal with her shipping- usually arrives within 1-2 days- you are just going to love her- please let us know how it goes.
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I don't know if you will know these codes but these are what were high RBC 8.51 - HCT 61.0% - HGB 19.1 g/dL All of these say HIGH next to them.... but I have no clue what they mean.
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I don't know if you will know these codes but these are what were high RBC 8.51 - HCT 61.0% - HGB 19.1 g/dL All of these say HIGH next to them.... but I have no clue what they mean.
sorry I am no help - Layla only had her lipase enzymes and Spec done- but I'm going to send this link to Jodie and Crystal- both of their girls also suffer and they shoudl be able to help.
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sorry I am no help - Layla only had her lipase enzymes and Spec done- but I'm going to send this link to Jodie and Crystal- both of their girls also suffer and they shoudl be able to help.
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Old 05-25-2009, 06:59 PM   #12
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Oh Chandra! How scary. You and Bailey are in my thoughts. There are a lot of folks here who've been through this, and I know they'll help you learn about this disease. Please keep us posted.
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Did he happen to eat something out of the ordinary before this episode?
Did the vet do a Spec cPL or are they trying to diagnose this with a blood panel alone? What was his lipase and amylase?

It sounds like the vet is thinking about doing a TLI (trypsin like immunoreactivity). vitamin B12 and folate testing is done with this quite often. A low TLI would indicate exocrine pancreatic insufficiency. This would cause a dog to be underweight. It can be very serious but it is generally managed well with a pricey drug. Whether this med helps or not, if this was Ellie, I would choose to run this test anyway. It can't hurt and it is best to know what you are dealing with. This could cause symptoms of IBD but it is something different.
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Hi Chandra - so sorry to hear that Bailey isn't feeling well. We started with a diagnosis of pancreatitis based on a high Lipase level, but a year later when we re-ran the bloodword and the lipase was twice as high as it had been with a very regulated low-fat diet, we did the Spec cPL. I antiticpated a low TLI with a diganosis of Exocrine Pancreatic Insufficiency, but instead Sissy had a high TLI with a low Cobalamine level, which indicates Protein Losing Enteropathy. Thankfully, we caught it very, very early and she is doing really well. Her last bloodwork was almost normal.

The RBC = red blooc cells; HCT = hematocrit; HGL = hemoglobin. An increased level in each of these are usually indicative of dehydration. Here is a link to reading canine lab results....Douglas Island Veterinary Service - How to read lab test results

If you vet didn't run the Spec cPL bloodwork, they cannot make a definitive pancreatitis diagnosis. You really need to have these results and they also help to rule out other things which can cause pancreatic episodes. This bloodwork must be run with them fasting for 12 hours and the results take anywhere from a couple days to two weeks.

You will love Susan Davis. She will have great information for you and hopefully Bailey will feel better in no time.
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Oh my I am so sorry to hear about Bailey..I'm a wreck myself as Izzy is in the hospital as I type this. We also had to take her in again on Sunday due to vomiting blood. She was diagnosed with Pancreatitis in November and has now this is her 4th time since.

I also consulted with Susan Davis and now we are doing a cobalamin and folate and TLI test. I truly feel now that she has other issues that are triggering the pancreatitis attacks. We won't do anything else until we get all the blood work back which should be by end of week.

Izzy has super high (Amylase) LIP (Lipase) levels but when the SpecCPLi test was done she was neither confirmed has or does not have pancreatitis but "could have"..which is nutty.

I just talked to our vet and Izzy is doing well and I should be able to bring her home tonight.

I feel your pain as it just hurts to see your baby so sick. Talk over with your vet and I also suggest talking to Susan Davis and if need be a consult with Dr. Gordon. I may be calling them again myself soon.

Keep us posted on Bailey.
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