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toke · 05-25-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kathy_caribe

Yikes! I had no idea! He has held down water given at 4:50 and 5:20 so maybe he might be on the mend? I am kicking myself now for the meatballs - a very trusted vet friend advised me on them (but she has mexican street dogs (big) and a dobie). If I am the one who did this (I was certain he'd eaten something bad - we don't have doors and he is in and out (since there really is no "in" or "out") all day and can pick stuff up anywhere - but now it looks like *I* did it to him! Oh, I could just kick myself.

Do NOT kick yourself...your dog needs you in one piece, lol. Seriously, there's no way to be sure (at this point) what's the matter...especially if he can come and go and snack outside, as he pleases. Wow...that would make me crazy. Crazier.

Lolapup · 05-25-2009, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kathy_caribe

Yikes! I had no idea! He has held down water given at 4:50 and 5:20 so maybe he might be on the mend? I am kicking myself now for the meatballs - a very trusted vet friend advised me on them (but she has mexican street dogs (big) and a dobie). If I am the one who did this (I was certain he'd eaten something bad - we don't have doors and he is in and out (since there really is no "in" or "out") all day and can pick stuff up anywhere - but now it looks like *I* did it to him! Oh, I could just kick myself.

What's his activity level? How is he acting? No point in beating yourself up. I wouldn't feed that garbage food either! You need to put all your focus on the pup right now. Has he pooped? Follow your gut. If you feel he needs to be seen it's better now than later.

kathy_caribe · 05-25-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by toke

Do NOT kick yourself...your dog needs you in one piece, lol. Seriously, there's no way to be sure (at this point) what's the matter...especially if he can come and go and snack outside, as he pleases. Wow...that would make me crazy. Crazier.

thanks - i think he might be turning towards better but this was a DEFINITE lesson learned. I'm going to be haunting the Diet forum now.

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Originally Posted by Lolapup

What's his activity level? How is he acting? No point in beating yourself up. I wouldn't feed that garbage food either! You need to put all your focus on the pup right now. Has he pooped? Follow your gut. If you feel he needs to be seen it's better now than later.

He has been sleeping most of the day - or just lying around. I'm not sure if he pooped this am or not but he hasn't held food down all day so no poop since I really started watching him (he usually only poops 1-2x/day). He also hasn't peed since around noon.

He has, however, held down the water he's been given at 4:50 and 5:20, and I just now (6:35 and 6:45) gave him a tablespoon of a broth+water (beef bullion cube super watered down) and he has held that down also. I'm going to try to keep giving him the fat-free broth water as it seems to tempt him more than plain water. Does that sound ok?

tiggerr36792 · 05-25-2009, 04:01 PM

Broth is very high in salt contentand not a good thing to feed him. Try pedialyte instead it will help level out his electrolytes. I suggest slowly introducing bolied chicken and rice, he needs to start eating or see a vet if he wont eat and hold it down. He has gone too long without food and can risk hypoglycemia.

kathy_caribe · 05-25-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tiggerr36792

Broth is very high in salt contentand not a good thing to feed him. Try pedialyte instead it will help level out his electrolytes. I suggest slowly introducing bolied chicken and rice, he needs to start eating or see a vet if he wont eat and hold it down. He has gone too long without food and can risk hypoglycemia.

Ok - I'm going to drive into town (15km away) and get him some Pedilyte. He just threw up the broth (given at 6:35, 6:45 and 7:00) but had kept the water (given at 4:50 and 5:30). Still no signs of dehydration but before I go to town for Pedilyte I'm going to call the vet.

kathy_caribe · 05-25-2009, 04:56 PM

Vet says it is my call - I can bring him in or keep him home and see how he is in the morning. I found some suero (a common rehydration packet) and gave him 2 tbsp - he would have taken more (in contrast to the broth that I really had to work at for him to drink) about 20 minutes ago and so far so good.

mscat · 05-25-2009, 05:34 PM

If he continues vomiting , please take him to the vet, he will only dehydrate more quickly from not getting enough fluids , and unable to hold anything down long enough to sustain him. how old is he? Is he also having direherra?

kathy_caribe · 05-25-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mscat

If he continues vomiting , please take him to the vet, he will only dehydrate more quickly from not getting enough fluids , and unable to hold anything down long enough to sustain him. how old is he? Is he also having direherra?

I will, don't worry. He was born Nov 30th, so that makes him almost 6mo. He has had 2 very large TBSP of suero (electrolyte replacement) at 1940, 2015 and 2040 and seems to be MUCH better. His eyes are brighter, he seems perkier and hasn't thrown up any of the suero. He is eager to drink the suero but I'm restricting him to just the 2 giant tbsp where all day he has been very UNeager to drink/eat anything. Oh, and no diarrhea.

Thanks so much everyone - I'm going to start with boiled chicken and white rice tomorrow am along with more suero assuming all goes well tonight. If not, I have the vet's cell phone and will call him if need be.

Thanks so much everyone for your help! It was such a comfort to have your ideas and advice with this, our first illness.

kathy_caribe · 05-26-2009, 12:54 AM

Argh. Suero at 1940, 2015, 2040, 2100, 2130 and 2210 and then he vomited (some, not all, obviously) at 2300 after taking a loooonnnnggg pee.

He took more suero at 0115 and again at 0345 and no vomit (yet). He has been trembling though and I'm thinking that is a sign of pain? No yelping but ocassional tremors.

toke · 05-26-2009, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kathy_caribe

Argh. Suero at 1940, 2015, 2040, 2100, 2130 and 2210 and then he vomited (some, not all, obviously) at 2300 after taking a loooonnnnggg pee.

He took more suero at 0115 and again at 0345 and no vomit (yet). He has been trembling though and I'm thinking that is a sign of pain? No yelping but ocassional tremors.

You've done your best and tried everything. It's time to take him to the vet, Kathy.

Ellie May · 05-26-2009, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kathy_caribe

Argh. Suero at 1940, 2015, 2040, 2100, 2130 and 2210 and then he vomited (some, not all, obviously) at 2300 after taking a loooonnnnggg pee.

He took more suero at 0115 and again at 0345 and no vomit (yet). He has been trembling though and I'm thinking that is a sign of pain? No yelping but ocassional tremors.

He really needs to see the vet.
If it is pancreatitis, he should be receiving nothing by mouth including water.
He may need an IV and at the very least, anti-nausea meds if it is just a stomach bug.

elleandca · 05-26-2009, 04:08 AM

eek! take that baby to a vet just read it all .. meh vet vet vet!!! now!!!

sickness now trembling ... jeez get in your car and get that baby to a vet as fast as you can!

sounds like needs a shot of anti sickness meds and a antibiotic shot .. at the least!!!

go to the vets!!!!!!

kathy_caribe · 05-26-2009, 06:44 AM

Quick update as I'm totally beat.

He's staying at the vet until he can hold down water. Vet initially suspected a bacterial or viral infection. No fever - he's actually a little "cold" (as per vet). Vet gave him a shot for "colic" (all this was done in Spanish) and drew blood - went over results with me and (trying to remember) whites were high, neutros were high and something else - pointing to bacterial infection. He gave abx (no idea what) and something else, said he's not dehydrated but also gave enema or fluids rectally. Not sure what that was about. I'm pretty sure (not a fault of translation but remembering) that if Kilo isn't holding down water by 4pm he'll start him on IV fluids and keep him overnight.

We're to come back around 4pm and see how he's doing.

kathy_caribe · 05-26-2009, 06:54 AM

Oh, one more thing - husbandito bought hte meat for the food we made - he said it was basically non-fat and not hte 80/20 I thought. So there was very little fat in the food we made (very lean ground beef, egg, oats, carrot).

toke · 05-26-2009, 07:38 AM

Buena Mamacita...

05-25-2009, 05:34 PM	#22
mscat YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hanford, CA Posts: 4,895	If he continues vomiting , please take him to the vet, he will only dehydrate more quickly from not getting enough fluids , and unable to hold anything down long enough to sustain him. how old is he? Is he also having direherra? __________________ "No matter how little money & how few possessions, you own, having a dog makes you rich."

05-26-2009, 07:38 AM	#30
toke YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 258	Buena Mamacita... __________________ Debby...owned by Zoey, the no longer Porky Chorkie (or maybe Morkie!)

05-25-2009, 04:01 PM	#19
tiggerr36792 BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: California Posts: 6,685 Blog Entries: 1	Broth is very high in salt contentand not a good thing to feed him. Try pedialyte instead it will help level out his electrolytes. I suggest slowly introducing bolied chicken and rice, he needs to start eating or see a vet if he wont eat and hold it down. He has gone too long without food and can risk hypoglycemia.

05-25-2009, 04:56 PM	#21
kathy_caribe Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: PaaMul, Quintana Roo, Mexico Posts: 59	Vet says it is my call - I can bring him in or keep him home and see how he is in the morning. I found some suero (a common rehydration packet) and gave him 2 tbsp - he would have taken more (in contrast to the broth that I really had to work at for him to drink) about 20 minutes ago and so far so good.

05-26-2009, 12:54 AM	#24
kathy_caribe Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: PaaMul, Quintana Roo, Mexico Posts: 59	Argh. Suero at 1940, 2015, 2040, 2100, 2130 and 2210 and then he vomited (some, not all, obviously) at 2300 after taking a loooonnnnggg pee. He took more suero at 0115 and again at 0345 and no vomit (yet). He has been trembling though and I'm thinking that is a sign of pain? No yelping but ocassional tremors.

05-26-2009, 04:08 AM	#27
elleandca Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: united kingdom Posts: 218	eek! take that baby to a vet just read it all .. meh vet vet vet!!! now!!! sickness now trembling ... jeez get in your car and get that baby to a vet as fast as you can! sounds like needs a shot of anti sickness meds and a antibiotic shot .. at the least!!! go to the vets!!!!!!

05-26-2009, 06:44 AM	#28
kathy_caribe Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: PaaMul, Quintana Roo, Mexico Posts: 59	Quick update as I'm totally beat. He's staying at the vet until he can hold down water. Vet initially suspected a bacterial or viral infection. No fever - he's actually a little "cold" (as per vet). Vet gave him a shot for "colic" (all this was done in Spanish) and drew blood - went over results with me and (trying to remember) whites were high, neutros were high and something else - pointing to bacterial infection. He gave abx (no idea what) and something else, said he's not dehydrated but also gave enema or fluids rectally. Not sure what that was about. I'm pretty sure (not a fault of translation but remembering) that if Kilo isn't holding down water by 4pm he'll start him on IV fluids and keep him overnight. We're to come back around 4pm and see how he's doing.

05-26-2009, 06:54 AM	#29
kathy_caribe Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: PaaMul, Quintana Roo, Mexico Posts: 59	Oh, one more thing - husbandito bought hte meat for the food we made - he said it was basically non-fat and not hte 80/20 I thought. So there was very little fat in the food we made (very lean ground beef, egg, oats, carrot).