Roxy Had Major Dental
 

So Roxy had her dental yesterday.

Her Doctor is a Board Cert. Dental Vet - Dr. Carmichael from The Veterinary Medical Center ~ And he was AMAZING :thumbup: - EXPENSIVE, but Worth it :cool:

Roxy had to have her 2 front teeth pulled as they were infected at the root and trying to infect the other teeth near by. She also had to have 2 bottom teeth pulled (the ones in-front of her fangs) as they were in the same situation as the 2 top ones. She had a few baby teeth remaining that were pulled. And finally her side 'chewing' tooth was pulled because it was actually an 'abnormal tooth' - it didn't have a root that went straight to the bone, and she had a HUGE cyst connected to it, so that had to get drained and cleaned out....

My poor baby...she is on antib's and pain meds....:(

I also got some insight on dental care. No toothpaste is required, it is only for taste for the dog. The Petz for Life is BS and it contains so much alcohol that our little ones can get drunk - fast....He said dogs have their own powerful enzymes in their mouth that kill bacteria. He is working on a toothpaste though that would actually be beneficial. But in the meantime, DAILY brushing (with just a toothbrush) is the BEST :thumbup:

He sounds awesome.:)
And are you talking about Petzlife?
I sooooo have to agree and that confirms what I thought.
It may (or may not) help some dogs but the alcohol is waaaaaay too high on the list and it isn't good.

I had heard that all that is necessary is a toothbrush but I like the smell of Ellie's toothpaste and it does have enzymes in it that probably do help, so I use that and then OraVet. At the very least, Ellie likes the flavor and I feel like I'm doing something when I brush if I use paste.:p I also floss Ellie's teeth now.

How did Roxy do going under?
Was this the only oral surgery required?

She did good he used the same thing that Ellie gets.

And yeah I am not using that Petz 4 life anymore :mad:

hmmm...more dental, well if I continue with my DAILY tooth brushing (she actually gets her teeth brush after both meals), then she could just be good for a years professional cleaning, and to make sure nothing else funny is going on). It is going to be a day by day thing, I don't she is in the clear, but she is good for now :thumbup: He is very confident that it all went well and was VERY happy that we proceeded...he did mention something about the cyst and cancer, I guess if it went unseen it could turn bad :(

That poor girl of yours.:( But she has a great mom.:)

I spent $25 on Petzlife and it is just sitting here.:mad::mad::mad:
That much alcohol can't be okay for a small dog.
If you look on their site all they say is no side effects have been reported.
Not everyone reports illness in relation to a product to the company though.
:mad::mad:
Thankfully I only used it a few times.
And then CET (I really do like this company though) puts xyilitol in one of their products. What are these companies trying to do???

Hope Roxy feels better soon :(. How wonderful of you to get all this work done for her :).

Did you guys see these brushless thingys: BREATH-LESS Brushless Toothpaste, Ark Naturals Natural Products For Pets

Here are the ingredients, what do you think?

"Rice flour, honey, water, glycerin, gelatin, canola oil, citric acid, sodium bicarbonate (fights plaque, tartar build up and supports healthy teeth), lecithin, cultured whey, salt, calcium carbonate (fights plaque, tartar build up and supports healthy teeth), dicalcium phosphate, flax oil, cinnamon, ascorbyl palmitate (Stay 50)(Disrupts plaque and tartar formation, slows the growth of oral germs and controls foul breath), clove,chlorophyll, vanilla, glucose oxidase (Natural enzymes slows growth of mouth bacteria), sodium pyrophosphate (Disrupts tartar build up). Chlorophyll, cinnamon and clove combats bad breath.

Contains no wheat, corn, soy, animal protein, by products, artificial colors or flavors.

Analysis:
Protein 11% min
Moisture 28% max
Fat 5% min
Fiber 1.5% max

Veterinarian formulated and recommended"

I wonder if they work at all....

He litteraly said to me that I can be making them drunk EVERY time I use the Petzlife - SCAREY

I told him I use CET and he didn't have anything great to say about that either, that's when he said Dogs have their 'own - better' enzymes in their mouth. He told me he is creating a toothpaste that would actually 'aid' the dogs enzymes, but for now, there's nothing really out there that 'all that wonderful' he said you just can't beat daily brushing ;)

My guess would be anything that they chew on could help a little bit.
I just don't use chews of any kind right now though.
Whether it is that I don't trust the company, the ingredients are nothing but fillers or too high in protein for Ellie, quality control is questionable or choking concerns there is always a reason for us not to.

Hope Roxy is feeling better! I always hate going to the dentist!

Yep, Petzlife contains GRAIN alcohol!! I used to use it before I realized what was in it...We use dental picks and a toothbrush on our babies.

Were you using Petzlife? For how long? How many times a week, and did you also brush? The company says that Petzlife only softens tartar; you still need to brush it away. As far as toothpaste being unnecessary, while that may be true, since Joey loves the taste of his poultry flavored toothpaste he doesn't fight me so much when brushing. I've got to say this is just one's vet's opinion and in the meantime he's working on toothpaste he thinks is good, and this makes me think he may be money motivated. I think the benefits of Petzlife outweigh the risks when you consider how risky anesthesia is.

Petzlife contains a tremendous amount of alcohol, so using alot of it often can and will make our small babies drunk like. Also, this company 'only claims' to do what it does.

The Dentist I went to was one of a very few bunch of Board Certified Dental Vets in the Nation. His father is from Cornell and his father created the vaccine for canine parvovirus. Dr. Carmichael has a tremendous amount of credentials, and the toothpaste he is 'trying' to create is something that would 'actually' be benefical and help and aid and have results. He said in the meantime, he hasn't 'found' anything out on the market that does that. I do not think he is only in it for the money....

Veterinary Medical Center of Long Island Animal Dental Services & Teeth Cleaning

Your first statement is very strong do you have any proof of this? Did your vet say this? Has he actually studied this particular product? Like I said before you don't use a lot. Logic would tell you that yes yorkies are small, but this means that their teeth and mouths are smaller than other dogs, so you would need to use less. To say that they are getting drunk from this is ridiculous. If you don't wish to use it anymore that's up to you, I'm just trying to give people another side, I just don't think it's as dangerous as you suggest. I just want to add, I am not selling the product, and I in no way have anything to do with the company. I don't see how your link says anything about Petzlife, did I miss it?

Nicole - I hope Roxy is feeling a bit better! I kow I hate it when our babies are feeling anything but happy and perfect!

Hope today has her feeling well :) :animal-pa

My statements are exactly from the Dr. When I told him I used the Petzlife, he said he's been to their site and they make a lot of claims. He also said it contains a lot of alcohol and did say I could be making them drunk. I said I used CET toothpaste. He said that too claims to have special enzymes, but in reality a dogs mouth has very powerful enzymes of their own that do the job of killing bacteria. I said I brush Roxy's teeth after each meal, and he said that is the BEST that could do and that I don't even need toothpaste, it would just be for flavor for her. He said he is 'trying' to make a toothpaste that would aid the dogs mouth, but it is difficult b/c they already have their own very powerful enzymes in their mouth, so it is difficult to try and beat that.

I honestly do not have the time or desire to research Petzlife - feel free to do that yourself. If you really like the GSE - you can buy it at the vitamin store. I just don't see the need to be giving my dogs alcohol, I have no idea what dental properties it could possibly have...

I gave that link to Dr. Carmichael as you suggested he may be in it for the money. I disagree, as I think who he is, is impressive and I think he credential are outstanding. "if and when" he does create a toothpaste, I will let everyone know about it. And people can pick and choose to use and do whatever they want.

Thanks! Roxy is back to her normal self. She still has stitches and I can't brush her teeth for another 3 weeks ~ I am sure she is soooooooo thrilled about that, as she fights me on it :D