Hmmmm......I don't ever watch, but did tonight after reading so much about them. Its sad, sounds like they have pretty much made their minds up to split. Kate seemed like she was trying to say Jon wasen't any help, but in a round about way instead of her normal quotes I have read from her.

Anyway, it was sad when the little girl kissed her daddy and said she didn't want him to leave again...he just said Daddy has to work....but, you could tell he was on the brink of tears.

Angie

I couldnt stand her saying all the alone stuff either and as far as we know John has been doing it alone while she was on the book tour.

I felt really sad when watching this episode, when he showed up at the bday party and they didnt hug or even say hi, so sad.

I want it all to work out, just for those kids.

I love all the past seasons but i dont know if i want to watch this one, Kate and her fansy cloths, the kids wondering where daddy is. it all sounds terrible.

This is very sad. We don't even know if what they are saying is true. Who knows? Editing can change facts. I conclude they are dong the show for money, at the expense of their children. Kate comes across as a Bit** to me. I would not want to be at the end of her jabs and comments.

I wonder if they ever go to church? In the beginning they acted like their values were built on Christian beliefs. Maybe if they could get back to that they would have hope.

JMO Kate seemed really happy at the birthday party. She had her "bodyguard" at the party. It is too bad they have camera's everywhere.

Money corrupts very easily, I feel like they sold out, left their values for the almighty dollar. I feel sad for them.

The whole situation makes me sad. I've watched the show from the beginning and have always enjoyed it.

It's very different now.

I hope Jon and Kate can work this all out. It's so sad - cheating puts everyone in such a terrible position. What a lot of headaches for a muscle spasm!

I feel very sad for them all. I can't imagine living your life under the microscope all the time. I truly hope there was no cheating and they can work things out.

As far as Kate being a b&$ch - if you were trying to manage a household of that size, I think we would all be like that to an extent. Jon had said in past episodes that he didn't like the way Kate was portrayed on the show and she really wasn't like that.

With regard to Aunt Jodi and her brother Kevin - you never saw him on any of the episodes as he opted to not be shown. Anyone who appears does get compensation, so when they moved into the new house away from Aunt Jodi and her kids, they were no longer getting paid from the show. So keep in mind that money motivates MANY people and how do we know that wasn't their motivation for the interview (which I'm sure they were also paid for)?!

I was a little surprised last night to hear that Jon had quit his job as that had not been mentioned in the past season at all. It does also sound like he is resentful of being left with the kids, regardless of the help they might have and takes off as soon as Kate comes home. He also stated that he was there for the kids when we was at home, where Kate says when at home she is 100% there for the family.

I bet if they could do it all over again, they would only do 1 or 2 seasons and then stop. It seems to be like an addiction, all the money and trips and free stuff...your judgement is clouded and it's hard to make a clear decision to say STOP. I wonder if any of this would've happened if they didn't have this show. I'm praying for them. I know she's disrespectful to him and probably many others, but people can learn lessons and do better. I hope they both learn from this, stop doing this show, salvage their family and make it work.

I just watched it and I am done with the show. That was a heart wrenching episode...:( There is just no entertainment value in watching a family collapse. I can't think of a single positive thing those cameras add to their life.

I agree- I think they would have stopped if she knew what it would become- but I was reading her interview in People and the problem is now that neither she nor jon work- this is what they do- and if they stop- they don't have an income- which i mean- sell the big house and voila- money again- but i think they are caught between a rock and a hard place... or so she feels.

The way I understand it is that the way it comes across on TV is not all accurate. Yes, they are going through something & are not very happy at the moment but it doesn't necessarily mean they are at they're tail end of their marriage.

Kate's sister was interviewed saying it's sad how they're stuck in their contracts for at least through this season and they pretty much edit and put on TV what viewers want to see, the drama of it all now that all the tabloids and the ugly side of trouble marriages has reared it's ugly head. Too bad they can't work on it without the cameras but that's pretty much what you sign up for when you sign on the dotted line for "x" amount of years/seasons, especially to have cameras follow you 24/7.

It was also agreed in the beginning that Kate would do the traveling and promoting of the show & book while Jon stayed at home but of course, that too was eventually gonna bring on stress & strain to the marriage/situation..

It was very hard & sad to watch last night...and to see them sitting on the couch like that...very sad & I'm really hoping Dr. Phil pays a visit...:rolleyes: j/k Okay maybe Oprah??.. alright...nevermind... just lots of prayers for the children!

That is interesting- i never thought about the contract- and i can't believe TLC- a family channel- would do that to this family- if that is accurate, I have a new view on that channel.....

If the viewers all stop watching it then the ratings would go way down and Kate would lose her money. Then they'd have to support their family on their own like the rest of us in the real world. It's not a reality show, most of it is scripted and they know to do just enough drama to keep people tuned in. If Kate and John were just an ordinary couple doing the daily deeds of working and raising a family they'd be too boring. Ordinary people are boring. Infedelity happens and it's possible to get through it if the couple have enough love to make it right again. They each have to realize what caused it and work on those issues. It's not usually all one sided. Something is broken to begin with. Plus I have to say....I'm sure glad my brother's would never turn on my like her brother did. Wow what a piece of poop he is. Blood should be thicker then water no matter what. What adult sibling really wants to do something like that to a brother or sister? Oh well....lifes a beach!! lol!

I'm sorry, that's just not true.

On reality shows there is the "talent" and then there are the bit players who agree to be on camera. Not everyone is under contract and not everyone who appears on camera is paid.

Yes, editing is done, and it does skew things for sure.

They are contracted employees of TLC. It is not a blood contract and they could choose to break that contract and walk away.

Would they lose some things? Yes. THINGS.

I could never put a price tag on my family.

We could have made a drinking game for every time Kate said " alone", and would have been toasted":)

It was very sad, it looks to me that Jon has "checked out", and I'm not convinced that Kate can get over all of her resentment. Very sad for the kids.

I felt extremely sad watching the episode! I hope for their sake and the sake of their children they will do everything possible to work things out.
I think they started out with the best of intentions and did what they thought was best and it snowballed into something else.
People continue to grow and change and it's hard when you start going in different directions.
I felt it was very obvious that both sides are in alot of pain, so sad!

Accurate & sad...but when it's bringing in the $$ for them, they don't care about the children it seems. You'd think they could/would use some of the money they've made off of them (yea I know they're paying them also) but the compassion side of TLC could have an episode or 2 where they pay for some counseling or something for them for the sake of the kids(and they're ratings if they want to have another season of Jon & Kate plus 8)...:rolleyes:

IDK, it's already been stated that they could get out of their contract if they chose to. It might be expecting a bit much for a network to "parent" two adults who, for better or for worse, are presumably capable of making their own decisions about their lives.

I never post in this section, so first of all I just want to say Hello.

This show is a train wreck that you just can't look away from. The season premiere was so pitiful. Kate is a monster that created the hell her kids now live in. She acted so damn pitiful on the new show. "I took the kids to the store all by myself." (boo hoo) "I am planning this party all alone." (boo hoo) That woman needs a major reality check! I am raising 3 kids by myself. I work every day. I support them financially because their Dad at age 40 just can't manage to 'find a job that suits him'. I can't afford a new car, new clothes, plastic surgery, etc, even though I have worked 15 years as a teacher. Every thing I have goes to my kids. Millions of other women are in the same boat. What makes her so different?

She chose to use her kids as a paycheck. In my opinion, she's no better than some of the mothers I know that have 5 to 8 kids and live off of the SSI checks they get when they manage to get half the kids enrolled in special ed. (Believe me it happens!) She needs to stop whining and get out of the show now before she digs her hole any deeper.

Jon is a spineless little man. He needed ball implants instead of hair implants. He has allowed Kate to disrepect and belittle him in public for years now. Now he choses to sleep around rather than 'Man Up' and demand that Kate treat him like a human. He has no self respect for himself and most of the TV viewers have none for him either. Do you think his son's are learning how to be honest, hard working men from him?

Those poor kids have little to no chance of ever leading normal lives and becoming contributing citizens of our country. They are growing up seeing their parents not working real jobs, and living off of other people's money and donations. They will have no concept of being a hard working, honest human being. Once again, I know this happens every day and is not shown on TV, but most people that do this only screw up 1 or 2 kids, these people are screwing up 8!

The whole situation just makes me so sad. I want to grab those kids off of that show and take them home with me. But I guess then Kate wouldn't have her little money machine anymore.

Oh boy, you sure said a mouthful..... all of which I agree with completely. The attitude she took with the "me, all by myself, all alone" in dealing with the party was just plain pitiful. She did say that Jon is resentful of the time he has to deal with the kids all by himself but that he has "help" in doing so. Well, it looked like she had quite a bit of help at the party too. She basically just stood and pointed and directed what everyone else should do when decorating.

I've watched this show from the beginning - when it was just a couple specials, before it was a series - and I just can't even believe the turn that this show has taken. It hurts to see how BOTH of them treat the kids at times. I've seen Jon lose his cool but the things I've seen Kate do are just beyond belief. I'm surprised that when one of the boys came up to her and told her thank you for the party, she didn't tell him "you're not welcome" like she did with the puppies. Truly amazing, that woman!

I feel so bad for this family. I know so many people are against Kate, but I hope everyone remembers that these shows are EDITED. I know I am definitely a little more snappy when I'm stressed. My boyfriend and I work together, and when I'm having a busy stressful day, I get snappy with him too. But when we have our alone time later, I can apologize. When they are raising eight children, I'm sure stress levels are high. Who knows how things are when or if they get alone time - that isn't filmed.
If Jon did cheat, I don't care how she has been treating him... there is NO EXCUSE FOR CHEATING. On the show, he mentioned that his life has been hard because he got married at 22, had twins at 23, and sextuplets at 27. But that was his choice. From the time he got married he should be committed completely to his wife and his family. It is so sad if he has checked out of the relationship already. If they are having so many troubles, I really hope they seek counselling and try as hard as possible to work through it for the sake of the children.
It's terrible how Kate's family has sold them out. They can talk all they want about how money-hungry the Gosselins are, but their whole fight started because of Aunt Jodie not being paid. I know my aunts and uncles were never paid for helping out my parents when I was young. Kevin and Jodie must not have any love for those children. I'm sure they were also paid to talk this way about their own family.
The whole situation is so sad and the show was so uncomfortable to watch. I was on the verge of tears by the end. I really hope they can work things out.

wow is all i can say for the season premiere...i understand kates need to support the kids and the traveling and all is her job but I dont feel bad for her becuz she chose that...i hope they work it out for the kids sake...

oh and there is and E news special friday night,not sure what time...

I watched her brother & sil on the morning show this am, They have not seen the children in weeks :( very sad, and they blame it all on the ratings, they had a record breaking one million viewers on mondays show, They are claiming fame and fortune has gone to there heads and of course there children are suffering from this :( what gets me, its been going on for over 6 months and they still filmed thru all of this :confused: I feel bad for the kids.

I also watched her brother and sister in law on t.v. this morning, saying the kids are being exploited. But if I remember correctly, the cameras were rolling in their house, while they watched the kids. Kind of makes you wonder.
I think Kate needs to take some parenting lessons herself.
She made the announcement that they are getting not one but two dogs, as a Christmas present, and not to expect anything else,(even though the paychecks are coming in from the them) Then, she picked out the dogs herself, and named them herself, without any input from the children. To top things off, anytime anything goes wrong, she threatens to take them back.
I could not get over the one segment where one of the little boys had a problem with constipation, was in a great deal of discomfort, and she didn't have the time to take care of him, because she was too busy picking out furniture. Jon finally ended up helping him.
I don't much like her money hungry, selfish ways, it wouldn't bother me one bit if the show was taken off the air. Maybe the kids could lead a decent life, without cameras constantly being shoved in their faces. And they are the ones I feel sorry for.
I'm sorry, Kate and Jon asked for it, they got it.

I think everyone has to remember that the show gets editing, they will bring out what will keep you watching. I like kate. I don't think anyone can say if you have one kid or 10 that you have not lost your cool with them. I never so them hit their kids or do anything wrong. What would people see behind your closed doors??? Most are different poeple behind closed doors. I know why my husband is setting don't doing anything, and both kids is needing help I will ask him is he the guest in the house are a dad. To get up and help, I see nothing wrong with that. And as for as their marriage, everyone goes though tough times. I don't know anyone that has not had marriage trouble. And for as why they did the show it was for the money to take care of the kids. You know that have that many kids they would be having a very hard time with money without the show. Alot of you say you would never have done the show, but if you did not know how you was going to feed or take care of that many kids and then someone come up to you offered you a show to make very good money, most would have done it too. It is easy to set on this side and judge someone. I am sure people would find wrongs in all our lifes if the doors was open. Don't judge people if you have not walked in their shoes.

Honestly I think Jon has issues with people questioning his " Manhood" , alot of people could look down at him for not working and supporting his family, and he may feel like less of a man for not doing so.. he is publicly humiliated on just about every single show because I dont know many people who would let thier spouse speak to them like that let alone for the public to view, personally I am embarrased for Jon 90% of the time!!
I dont know how often you watch the show but Jon has always maintained he has a relationship with his mother, however Kate on the other hand can disregard people like most of us do our trash... her parents cared for the twins the entire time she was pregnant with the tups and then she just threw them away like garbage, there is proof of that as they live 2 miles down the street and YOU NEVER see them, no matter what these are these childrens grandparents.... her " best friend " Beth the one she couldnt live with out??? She & Kate are no longer friends either, remember Nana, well she is gone too, what does this teach these children... ???? Auntie Jodi & Uncle Kevin are gone , no grandparents because Kate got a hair across her arse!! That is a very poor lesson for children to learn.....I wouldnt let my neighboor speak to me the way Kate speaks to Jon let alone my WIFE.. I cant stand her!!

I keep hearing about editing....from a lot of sources, not just YT and MY thoughts on that are; if you are pretty decent MOST of the time, we wouldn't see SOOooo much of " Kate's ways " edited or not...she is who she is and she said what she said. I don't think Jon is a saint either, I couldn't deal with trying to raise 8 kids and having a husband who seems to be in his own zone at times, but a lot of times he is the one doing for the kids...they have both said that. If he has cheated it was defiantly wrong. They both seem like they are not interested in making it work.....like they are happier away from each other, I just hope those children will be ok. It was HEARTBREAKING to hear the little girl tell Jon " daddy I don't want you to leave again " I know you can't believe all the stuff you read, etc... I am just going by what I feel when I listen to them talk seperatly and together. As far as planning a party.....My husband usually dosen't know what anything looks like until we show up. I pick out everything.....I just thought that was a " girl thing " maybe b/c I enjoy it so much and dh knows me and my friends would over ride him ( unless it was something that was really important to him ) lol. He is a wonderful dad and as long as everybody is happy he is happy. I just always thought the Mom ( and her friends ) planned b'd parties ALONE. Kate had two men hanging the high stuff for her...she did better than me...we had teenagers crawling on tables hanging stuff from the celings, etc....it was very tireing, but we all had fun! Now, we have two little girl b'dy parties coming up in July and August....guess I will be ALONE! Anyway, I just hope those kids will be ok.

Angie

LOL!! Your post is very good. I love the ball implants comment too! I just want to point out that most of us mom's do go to the grocery store with the kids by ourselves and plan bday parties by ourselves. I even stayed home and raised 4 kids by myself while my DH went out and worked everyday all day. When he came home in the evening I didn't throw the kids at him either. Don't get me wrong we had alot of great times as a family while our kids grew up but everything can't be done together 24/7. It seems to me that alot of men that are hen pecked and don't stand up for themselves are often times the ones that stray (not in all cases but often enough). The only ones you can feel sorry for here are the kids because the parents created it ALL! It takes 2 and you have to have a balance between you to make it work. Old wise saying from Grandma (God rest her soul), "It's between the 2 and the 3rd has nothing to say!" That's the way it should be. But in this case they just keep feeding the media instead of taking the vow of silence on the issue and working through whatever it is they need to in private. I just don't understand these women who want to go and air their dirty laundry in public. Elizabeth Edwards does this too. Aren't you humiliated and hurt enough without the whole world getting in on it. I just don't get it.

Don't like the show at all..never have.

Lets just not forget if they opted not to do the show and decided to do the right thing and save thier family they both have VERY good jobs....
Kate is a NICU nurse and Jon is an IT tech... they would live a very comfortable life.....they probally wouldnt be buying 100 dollar outfits for the kids at Gymboree and Gap or doing all the traveling they do with thier children but they would live better then half of America for sure!!
Nothing is special for those kids, they have been on more vacations in thier short little 5 years then most kids do in a life time...my children appreciate our 1 or 2 yearly trips... there is NO need to go on a trip monthly for anyone!! Id bet 1 million dollars those kids would rather loose the cameras, have mommy and daddy home all the time and working normal hours then a vacation !!! Maybe reunite with thier aunts and grandparents would be a good start for some good family foundations..
Kate threatening the kids to get rid of the dogs is soo sad but Im sure they believe her she did it to thier own family !!:eek::eek:
I think they should quit the show, go back to work , and concentrate on thier family because as TV goes in a few years people are going to be saying Jon and Kate who:eek::eek::eek:

I know everyone thinks that the big announcement is divorce (probably is) but anyone else drawn to watch it and see what they have to say for themselves?

announcement??