Just curious.. What do you do that makes you visit kennels frequently? Orlando is a long distance from Houston but it sounds as if you spend a lot of time there. Are you involved with dogs, llamas, hunting..? What is your connection to Bushy Creek? I'm just interested as I sure others are to.

[quote=sparklinstars;925742]hello,

I do understand that they could sell thousands of good puppies and that the only story you are looking for is the selling of the bad ones, somehow though, that seems like unfair reporting, almost more of smear campaign waged and started by people who may have "other" motives against Mr. Moore. It does appear that the people on this site have much time on their hands.

This whole story is a huge concern due to the fact that the recent lawsuit brought on by another "dog breeder" has caused bad blood and the vendetta rages on today. I guess that breeder is using this forum to get yet another day in the spotlight so to speak. I would hope that her records will also be checked and that the story will also point out her "questionable" puppy selling tactics. In closing, the staff at Brushy Creek doesn't find any joy in learning of a sick puppy or dog.

The overall health and happiness of each and EVERY dog is important and that is bottom line. Again, I am shocked to read the constant bashing that seems to be repeated and repeated by the SAME people on this site. Same stuff, different wording etc.[/quote]



Funny how you have used the same exact wording :eek: ("same stuff")

Who has too much time on their hands? If there wasn't something to this story why the 2 day long posts on this thread and none prior?

Of course it's a big concern - you could loose your job if this place closes down!

Obviously this in NOT true or there wouldn't be all of the complaints filed.

Don't hold back now - who are you referring to?
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Sparklinstars,
Welcome to YT and thanks for your insight on how you perceive this kennel. It is interesting how your take on the kennel is so different than everyone elses but at least you posted so we can begin to see both sides of the story. I am new here but have noticed these threads started in 2004 I believe and so far you are the first person to put in a good word for them so I am glad to have your opinion especially since you have spent so much time there and know them so well. Before you posted, did you take the time to read all of the posts on all of the different threads here so see why there are some people here that have been hurt by your associates? I dont know if the word associates is right because I am not sure why you have been there so many times and have alot of inside information about them so forgive me if I am wrong there. I personally dont know Brushy Creek Kennels or any of their other names they go by but when I read all of the heartbreaking stories here it makes me sad for all of the puppies and people that have had to endure what they have because they bought puppies from them. To me it wouldnt matter how state of the art the kennel was, if they are selling sick dogs and have been doing this for what seems like several years as far as I can see on these threads, then people are going to start putting their feet down and saying they arent going to take it anymore. Can you see these people have legitimate points and not the fact that they are out to smear anyone that doesnt deserve it. I am not sure who the breeder is you are referring to that has a lawsuit against them, I dont remember reading about it but maybe you can let us know who you refer to in your post. Once again thanks for your perosnal insight. I imagine David with Fox news would like to hear from someone who knows them personally and cant contact them so we get to hear their side of the story as well.

lose my job? too funny as I DO NOT WORK FOR THE KENNEL!! Why is it that you ASSUME that when someone sticks up for the kennel that they must be affiliated with it? That is far too small of a "box" to live in..........I am in no way affiliated, do not work for or any of the sort.

by the way, the only hunting I do is in the meat department at the grocery store and if being affiliated with llamas means seeing them at a zoo.......I'm guilty........

i believe the question was "why did you visit the kennel? how were you able to get inside when no one can? why do you see kennels all the time? you are in fl and this kennel is in tx?
these are the questions they want to know.

This is what I was wondering about:thumbup:

here are the questions you didn't answer

Of course it's a big concern - you could loose your job if this place closes down!

The above phrase was was what I was referring to.....


I am a sales rep for a dog supply company and travel all around. That is why I say that some of these people need to really visit a "puppy mill" to understand what one really is as Brushy Creek is NOT one. Not only does Mr. Moore always try to stay on top of the best products on the market to care for the animals, but he also sends his staff to seminars, training etc. to keep them on top of the newest technology in the industry. I have met the staff and know first hand that when a dog/pup does become sick, they do everything possible to treat and care for that animal. As I said before, it would serve NO purpsose for them to intentionally sell sick animals. Repeat customers and word of mouth are the backbones of most small business in this country. Again, I do NOT agree with selling sick animals. I do feel horrible for anyone who has ever had the nightmare of dealing with a sick animal and the problems it can cause for a family etc. What I am saying is that these posts are mostly from people who have never seen the kennels and have a nasty, ugly picture in their minds as to what it looks like. I even see where people question why there is a wooden privacy fence. Simply said, not only is the Kennel a business, but a FAMILY lives there.... and when you have small kids and the kind of foot traffic that occurs when selling puppies on a weekend etc. a fence for privacy is important for the downtime when your family is trying to simply be that. A family. My back yard has a wooden privacy fence, does that make me "suspicious?" Enough said.

Okay, I'll bite. What's this about?

Interesting. I really wasn't suspicious of Dobiedude or whatever his name was, but THIS post sounds like it comes DIRECTLY from Brushy Creek Kennels, or someone related to them. And since Dobiedude also accused V of being a "jealous competitor", this is all starting to look very fishy.

I don't know who V is, but the lawsuit I am referring to is with Ms. Lisa Bushman (Mallory)....

NOTHING fishy here. What I do know is that the lawsuit involved dogs and got ugly as it was between 2 breeders. Ms. Bushman used to sell dogs for Mr. Moore and that is where the vendetta lies as she no longer can get dogs from him.

So, unless V is Ms. Bushman, I don't know really what you are talking about.... if they are the same person, excuse my error.

I was told to go on this site by another kennel in Orlando and was shocked when I read all the posts and that is why I felt compelled to post. Now, after posting, I have become 1. an employee 2. a hunter 3. a llama lover and 4. untruthful.

Unreal........

If what you're saying is true, then it sounds like Brushy Creek has a setup like Jeff Dane.

I do know what you're saying that there are WAY more horrible mills out there, however, let's say the environment is spotless, properly heated and cooled, etc. That doesn't mean it's NOT still a puppy mill (defined by the large numbers of dogs it cranks out), or that the dogs are receiving adequate stimulation or socialization.

Just because it passes all inspections and can't be touched by law means NOTHING. Our laws are decades and decades behind the times in this area. :(

I agree with the laws being behind the times.. I can tell you that the kennel is on many, many acres and the dogs that are breeder dogs interact with people (staff) constantly. The runs they have are huge and they are in no way in cramped quarters. They are treated as pets, not puppy machines. The pups are socialized as soon as they are old enough and enjoy much attention. Someone posted that the lady who works there has 100 dogs in her house.......Untrue, but in reality, she does bring dogs in on a rotating basis to help start the potty training process to help families out. A job I wouldn't do for any amount of money!!!

I understand completely that the laws need reform. I also understand that the thought of dogs being kept in cages to simply have pups is not a warm and fuzzy thought. Knowing though that they have much care and running time etc. and that they only keep the breeders for 3 litters and then sell them as pets is a comfort. I can say that I would rather walk into Brush Creek Kennels and see puppies playing and know that they will be going to a family than walk into a chicken coop or cattle barn and know that those animals will end up on the table.

I am not here for controversy.... I just wanted to share some insight.

And that is appreciated.

From your perspective, are you able at all to address the fact that SO many people seem to have had the same experience of NOT receiving the same dog that they were shown pictures of?

Wow for being a sales rep you know alot about this place. Do you visit them daily?

Technology and operator error would be my "guess"........I can only discuss the kennel etc.. I know nothing of the inside operations.........sorry

monthly or bi-monthly.....over 4 years........

I think I'm missing something or I'm just not understanding you... How do you know so much about this place if you only visit monthly or bi-monthly?
I just don't get it. So many details about this place from someone that visits 12 or 24 times a year.
Please don't take this the wrong way because I also know nothing about this place..just what I've heard. Yes, there are plenty of happy customers but that is not the point here. What about the unhappy heart broken customers? It's so heart breaking to know that you have a sick puppy or thats its going to die. What about the excited children involved? Just to be disapointed when their new puppy dies. Years ago I had to find a home for my first dog because I was moving into a apartment that didn't accept pets I cried and cried like a baby but what hurt me the most was to see my kids suffer because I had to rehome OUR dog. My 16 yr old which at the time he was 12 who always been so hard up with his emotions ...he cried and cried. I had to hold him in my arms and tell him it was okay. I thank the lord above that I was able to see him when I wanted to and that made my kids happy.

Maybe you should walk a day in the shoes of the ppl that suffered because of this.

This is just my opinion but it seems a little strange that a business would keep the salesman informed of their legal battles and how they handle the issues with sick puppies and unhappy customers. I would think that would be a confidental matter and not something to be telling the traveling salesman that interact with other puppymills and could possibly pass that information on. They must trust you very much. You wouldnt necessarily lose your job but your sales would be way down if the puppymills starting closing down and that wouldnt be in your best interest. I wonder which puppymills you are talking about that are worse. Have you been to Jeff Danes facility too and if so what is your take on them?

It seems like if there were no problems at this kennel the owner wouldnt mind responding to this reporter. Why is he dodging him?

Please read and re-read my posts. I say that I do NOT agree with the selling of sick puppies and I feel horrible for families that end up dealing with sick pups etc.

How do I know so much by being there only 12 to 24 times per year times 4 years.... please........do the math... I have been there many, many times....

As far as the lawsuit......I was on the witness list.....THAT IS WHY I KNOW SO MUCH.....

In as much said.......my personal life is not on the chopping block here....I have simply done what all of you have done.....told my story and given my opinions. Isn't that what a forum is for?

First off, sparklinstars, welcome to YT and thanks for sharing your opinion on Brushy Creek Kennels. Second, what kind of crack are you on? I'll just say this up front that I've never seen Brushy Creek Kennels. However, I see they have 20+ websites with different breeds. I don't care what kind of conditions the kennels are in, in my eyes this is a puppy mill. It's like a puppy producing corporation. It's ridiculous and unacceptable. NO person could properly take care of, raise, socialize, potty train, etc this many dogs. No one. Yorkies and many other breeds need to be around people all the time - not shoved in a kennel for the first 8 weeks of their life. They want to feel like they are part of the family. With as many dogs as he has, the puppies are just another number.

Also, if there were only a few complaints like you're suggesting, then Fox 26 News would not be persuing to case like they are - neither would the other news stations. If David Moore has nothing to hide, he would come forward. No one would want their name smeared all over the news if they were being wronly accused. With this many dogs, he doesn't care about them - he cares about the money they're bringing in. A good, ethical, reputible breeder generally only has ONE breed, and only a FEW adults/litters.

You can argue this to your heart's content, but simply put, I wont care.

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First, may I ask "who" told you to come to this site? :rolleyes:

Again, your choice of words (smear) are very similar to the guy that was on this thread earlier. Do you know him? Dobie-something

The dog breeder you refer to hasn't even posted on this thread - that I know of. And if there is a post from her somewhere else could you please tell me what thread and post #? I'd like to read it. Because I haven't heard anything about this prior to your post.

Could you please explain why would this thread be of any concern to this breeder's lawsuit? I don't understand the connection. If you're saying she had bad practices why would she come here for support?

Your "In closing" makes it sound like you are part of the staff of Brushy Creek, or why would you make the statement for them? Which is also the reason I put in about loosing your job. Close Brushy Creek = lose jobs

How do you "know" what is in their contracts? I've never known a sales rep to be quite this involved in every aspect of just "one" on her clients. And BTW which dog supplier do you work for?

Have you ever heard of or been to Hunte Corporation? I think they have state of the art technology and clean cages too, but I don't think what they're doing is humane or moral!

Thank You - I'm really interested in your responses/insights.
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You are there every month or so and you are on the witness list? What could you possibly know that they would call you as a witness? You sell them pet supplies right?

Good post!

Hello everybody. This is the infamous David Moore of Brushy Creek Kennel. I have been aware of this site since 2004 when Ms. Villette along with her entourage started the bashing, harassing, and slandering of me and my kennel. I decided to ignore the negative publicity back then because I don't have time to deal with people who have nothing better to do but bad mouth other people. But enough is enough. I have not decided wheather or not I am going to give a interview with any news station at this point. I am very proud of my kennel and facilities and I have nothing to hide and this can be verified by Houston SPCA which visits us frequently and unexpectactly on a regular basis. We have never one time been sited for having anything wrong with our kennel on any of the numerous occassions they have visited us unannounced. The reason SPCA frequents our facility is from phone calls from people like Ms. Villette who hasn't even purchased a dog from us or has never even been in our kennel. She has met my sister in law who is about the kindest person you would ever want to meet with one arm and she portrayed her to be a "terrible mean woman with no teeth" this is posted way back by Ms. Villette on this site. This is just one of her many lies on this site. My sister in law does in fact have a full set of teeth and I find it very vindicitive to pick on a person who only has one arm. The reason I am undecided about giving the media an interview is because it is a well known fact that the media likes to twist and cut and paste to make things sound bad and exciting to up their ratings. I have known other kennels with nice facilities that have had this experience happen to them. I feel this site and the media has already made up their mind about my kennel and that is that. The damage that has already been done by the people who don't even know me or have not been to my facility is irrepairable at this point. We also are a quarantine facility which keeps dogs up to 7 months for people who are relocating or purchasing overseas and want to bring their dogs with them. Many countries have a 7 month quarantine policy before the dogs are aloud to enter the country. We arrange all the vet work, paperwork, and shipping for these dogs going into rabies free countries. We are also an approved USDA quarantine facility for large animals as well. That might explain why we just don't let anybody in our kennel or on our farm at any time. If the USDA government and our local Houston SPCA has approved us why does this sight and the same people frequenting it feel the need to constantly be harrassing and badgering our kennel? Yes I have many many repeat customers and yes I have sold many dogs to people who were very happy with them. Yes - there is a small percentage of people out there who have had the misfortune of getting a puppy that got sick. We do understand the heartache that this causes. We do not intentionally send out a sick puppy. We do everything we can to prevent this from happening. Unfortantely puppies do and will get sick just like a child does. Our dogs are kept in a temperature controlled facility and what happens to them after they leave our facility is out of our control. We do recommend to everyone who gets a puppy from us to take them into their vet and get the puppy checked within 48 hours (this is in our purchase agreement). If they are not happy they can bring the dog back and get a replacement puppy. Puppies relocating to a new home are just like children that go to day care. When you have your children in your own household environment and then they are put into a environment that is different from what they are used to, they are exposed to all kinds of viruses. What happens?? Within a few days they are sick. It is no different with puppies. I am not the scam artist I am being made out to be. I truly find joy in placing nice pups in good homes and it really does break my heart when it doesn't work out or someone has to deal with a puppy that gets sick. We sell all of our puppies to individuals privately and not to pet stores and we do have guarantees on the puppies we sell. We also make good on our guarantees despite what some of the people are posting on this site. I really doubt I will be replying to any more posts on this site because it is apparent that the majority of people frequenting this site are againsts the majority of breeders who have dog kennels and there mind is made up. I consider my business to be a professional business and I do love my dogs and I do take good care of my dogs. It is clear to me that this really is a smear campaign to put me out of business. If I had a pasture full of well cared for horses nobody would say a word. If I had a pasture full of well cared for cattle nobody would say a word. But if I am a dog breeder that has more than 6 well cared for dogs I am a terrible person and considered a puppy mill. I think this site is pretty much geared toward closing down any operation that breeds dogs on any scale and caters to the pet owner that only has a couple of dogs as pets. Where did these people get these pets from is what I would like to know? Did they all come from the Humane Society or did they come from professional breeders like myself? I believe I have done my best to try and rectify the small percentage of unfortunate people who have had to deal with a puppy that has gotten sick after they have purchased a pup from our kennel. I am truly sorry if anyone out there feels that I have not done my best to rectify the situation. I am human and I have made mistakes but I certainly do not intentionally try to scam people in any way. It has not been a pleasant experience for me getting bashed all over this site for the past several years but I stay in business because I do have good dogs and I have hundreds of repeat customers every year that love our dogs.

Mr. Moore - I don't have an entourage. I posted about my own PERSONAL experience right after a visit to your kennels back in 2004 - and yes - it was a bad experience but I've said over and over I didn't buy a dog - I didn't even go details about how we were cussed out by Wanda there because we KNEW that wasn't the dog you had emailed me pictures of before we took that trip. I was pretty hot about your business practices and talked about it but I had NO idea there were so many unhappy people out there when I posted 2-1/2 YEARS ago.

and another thing - I don't even know the people who have filed complaints about you. I stated truthfully what happened to ME - and based on what I've seen & heard I feel lucky that I didn't do business with you. When the same complaints surface over and over again about a kennel/breeder there is obviously problems with the way that kennel is run. I do feel sorry for all the people who bought sick dogs or who's dogs died....but as I said - when I posted..... I had no idea that was going on.

I really don't have a clue who Wanda is. I have never had anyone working for me by that name. I also can tell you that nobody here would cuss you out. This is more of your lies. Lady - you have either mixed my kennel up with someone elses, you are a confused individual, or you are just a liar. My sister in law lives here and helps me out but her name is Dawn and she would have been the only person besides myself that would have greeted you. Get your FACTS STRAIGHT!!!