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cj125 02-02-2007 10:51 AM

Could you please tell me the name of the breeder that has a lawsuit against you? Your pet supplier mentioned her and I have no clue as to what she is talking about.

red98vett 02-02-2007 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BrushyCreek (Post 927501)
I really don't have a clue who Wanda is. I have never had anyone working for me by that name. I also can tell you that nobody here would cuss you out. This is more of your lies. Lady - you have either mixed my kennel up with someone elses, you are a confused individual, or you are just a liar. My sister in law lives here and helps me out but her name is Dawn and she would have been the only person besides myself that would have greeted you. Get your FACTS STRAIGHT!!!

It was Dawn - my apology

But - that wasn't why I posted about you. I posted because you misrepresented a dog and I drove out there only to see a poor little yorkie with the worst bite I've ever seen on ANY dog - with a severly distended stomach. When I was there I kept asking was what was wrong with the puppy - and I was ignored because she was more interested in my money. Both my husband and I got out of there fast - it was only when I emailed you later that we were totally cussed out. You can say what you want.... but I posted only the truth.

If you feel this strongly - Why not talk to the Fox people ?

valbholmes 02-02-2007 11:03 AM

Healthy Puppy
 
I just want it to be known, that I bought a Yorkie from them. I have had no problems with mine. I liked it so much, I went back and got another one. They both are doing great! The vet checked them, and they are fine!
I have called to ask ?'s about Yorkies, since I am a first time Yorkie owner, and they have helped me out a lot. I see several of the same people bashing this place. How many actually, out of all the replies on here, bought a dog with problems?
How many are just going through hear say, and bashing for fun?

CO_yorkie_momma 02-02-2007 11:04 AM

David
I am glad you have finally decided to come on and defend yourself instead of letting your entourage do it for you. I do hope you allow the fox new crew to interview you and get your side of the story.

When people come on these forums and tell their individual stories of getting sick and dying and misrepresented dogs from you we only get one side of the story. I agree there are always two sides and puppies do get sick and die and sometimes we sell them not knowing they are sick. However when it happens time and time again, questions get raised.

You are right, most of us here dont like puppymills at all. Who does? It doesnt matter if they are healthy or not, you are mass producing dogs and keeping them caged which is no life for any dog. Taking them out and having the staff play with them a few times a day isnt a life. That is what some of the bitterness is about. To answer your question, most of us bought our dogs from small reputable breeders unless we just didnt know any better at the time and bought them from puppymills and petstores.

I dont think you are helping your case by coming in here and calling Villette (who happens to have a huge heart and loves animals) names just because she reported what she experienced at your kennel. And Dawn, Wanda, Fonda, Honda, who cares what her name is, it all sounds the same. I know when my husband doesnt have his teeth in, I cant understand what he says some times too. Her name isnt the issue and you werent there to hear how she talked to Villette, so you really cant say how she was treated now can you? You might have changed a few peoples minds if you hadnt resorted to nasty name calling. You cant tell me you and yourself dont talk to people that way when they piss you off because you just proved differently in your post here.

red98vett 02-02-2007 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by valbholmes (Post 927559)
I just want it to be known, that I bought a Yorkie from them. I have had no problems with mine. I liked it so much, I went back and got another one. They both are doing great! The vet checked them, and they are fine!
I have called to ask ?'s about Yorkies, since I am a first time Yorkie owner, and they have helped me out a lot. I several of the same people bashing this place. How many actually out of all the replies on here bought a dog with problems?
How many are just going through hear say, and bashing for fun?

oh please - this is just too much that all of a sudden people are coming out of the woodwork to post. Believe me - I didn't post for FUN after my visit there.... and I doubt the people who were sold sick dogs think it's 'fun'.

tegamom1 02-02-2007 11:22 AM

"I have hundreds of repeat customers every year that love our dogs".


"HUNDREDS". Think this just about says it all! Just how many puppies do you "produce" every year???

:thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown

Amber_lv 02-02-2007 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CO_yorkie_momma (Post 927564)
David
I am glad you have finally decided to come on and defend yourself instead of letting your entourage do it for you. I do hope you allow the fox new crew to interview you and get your side of the story.

When people come on these forums and tell their individual stories of getting sick and dying and misrepresented dogs from you we only get one side of the story. I agree there are always two sides and puppies do get sick and die and sometimes we sell them not knowing they are sick. However when it happens time and time again, questions get raised.

You are right, most of us here dont like puppymills at all. Who does? It doesnt matter if they are healthy or not, you are mass producing dogs and keeping them caged which is no life for any dog. Taking them out and having the staff play with them a few times a day isnt a life. That is what some of the bitterness is about. To answer your question, most of us bought our dogs from small reputable breeders unless we just didnt know any better at the time and bought them from puppymills and petstores.

I dont think you are helping your case by coming in here and calling Villette (who happens to have a huge heart and loves animals) names just because she reported what she experienced at your kennel. And Dawn, Wanda, Fonda, Honda, who cares what her name is, it all sounds the same. I know when my husband doesnt have his teeth in, I cant understand what he says some times too. Her name isnt the issue and you werent there to hear how she talked to Villette, so you really cant say how she was treated now can you? You might have changed a few peoples minds if you hadnt resorted to nasty name calling. You cant tell me you and yourself dont talk to people that way when they piss you off because you just proved differently in your post here.

Great post i totally agree. As for V she is very kind and loves animals she is not a person who is spiteful and mean. If you want everyone to hear your side of the story you can do it in a manner that isn't so demening.

Timmy 02-02-2007 11:31 AM

Personally I think they're picking names out of a hat:eek: :D Its probably the same person registering different names on YT.

Amber_lv 02-02-2007 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 927608)
Personally I think they're picking names out of a hat:eek: :D Its probably the same person registering different names on YT.

well someone should ask admin to check the # i know there is a way to tell if it's the same person

CO_yorkie_momma 02-02-2007 11:43 AM

Lets be fair to the people that say they have bought puppies and they were happy and healthy and had a good experience. I am glad to hear from them and to hear their side also. Gives me hope that maybe conditions arent quite as bad as I am imagining.

Timmy 02-02-2007 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Amber_lv (Post 927617)
well someone should ask admin to check the # i know there is a way to tell if it's the same person


I know I think I seen that before on here.
Its just so funny how sparlingstar and Mr. Moore use the same words. Didn't sparkles say something about smear campaign? Well Mr. Moore said the same thing. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Mr. Moore I do not know anything about your breeding habits. What I know is what I heard but even if 5 out of 100 dogs you breed are sick...sorry to say you're doing something wrong.

valbholmes 02-02-2007 11:52 AM

I actually did a search on Yorkie forums. I am so sorry I found this site.
I will say I have found some interesting and helpful things on it. I am glad to own a Yorkie after what I have read.
I am though unhappy with the things being said about the place I bought it from. I will repeat myself one more time. I am happy with my Yorkies, I bought them from Brushy Creek, I have had no problems, the people there have been nothing but nice. I thought they had a beautiful place there. If I had land like that, I would keep it fenced to. I will add the one thing I loved about the kennel, is it did not have the stench that some places have. It smelled cleaned, and all the dogs looked so happy, and loving. I am very proud of my pretty little Yorkies, and they are so happy. I have no regrets as to buying my dog from them.
I do appreciate the helpful advice on Yorkies I have found on this site. I do not appreciate the hate that is coming my way, because I am happy about my Yorkies I bought from this kennel.

BrushyCreek 02-02-2007 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Amber_lv (Post 927617)
well someone should ask admin to check the # i know there is a way to tell if it's the same person

Please Do. I would like to know just how many supporters we do have on here.

valbholmes 02-02-2007 12:00 PM

I am going to tell they are not. I am trying to figure out how to get pictures of my puppies on here. My babies are so cute. I bought one in November, and went back and got the other in December. I promise you my babies are adorable, and they were not sick! The place is nothing like they are saying.
Can you tell me how to get the picture up? I so want to share them with you all. I am so proud of them!
I never knew I could really love one these little dogs that much. I have always had big dogs. ( boxers) The only other little dog I have had were pugs. I bought them from a place in the mall, and had nothing but problems.
Any way my daughter talked me in to these dogs, she has been on me for 5 years. I finally said OK. I loved it so much much, that is why I went back for the other, she needed a friend! really I wanted one for me....lol! I just can not wait to show you the baby girls!

Timmy 02-02-2007 12:01 PM

WOW it seems like everyone is running into this site and especially this thread.

If you're happy with your puppy than you're happy. You do not need to read this thread if you do not like whats being said. We are talking about the unhappy ppl. The ones that cried and went through alot of heartache of losing a furkid and then to find that the breeder didn't give a crap. Thats what we are talking about here. So now you made your point so keep on moving to the next thread. I'm sure you will love it here...BEST SITE!!!

dobiedude 02-02-2007 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cj125 (Post 927209)
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First, may I ask "who" told you to come to this site? :rolleyes:

Again, your choice of words (smear) are very similar to the guy that was on this thread earlier. Do you know him? Dobie-something

The dog breeder you refer to hasn't even posted on this thread - that I know of. And if there is a post from her somewhere else could you please tell me what thread and post #? I'd like to read it. Because I haven't heard anything about this prior to your post.

Could you please explain why would this thread be of any concern to this breeder's lawsuit? I don't understand the connection. If you're saying she had bad practices why would she come here for support?

Your "In closing" makes it sound like you are part of the staff of Brushy Creek, or why would you make the statement for them? Which is also the reason I put in about loosing your job. Close Brushy Creek = lose jobs

How do you "know" what is in their contracts? I've never known a sales rep to be quite this involved in every aspect of just "one" on her clients. And BTW which dog supplier do you work for?

Have you ever heard of or been to Hunte Corporation? I think they have state of the art technology and clean cages too, but I don't think what they're doing is humane or moral!

Thank You - I'm really interested in your responses/insights.
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Once again someone who can not or will not read the whole thread. The smear campaign came from the post Jerry Bennick posted. Get it right if your gonna post about me.

BrushyCreek 02-02-2007 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red98vett (Post 927558)
It was Dawn - my apology

But - that wasn't why I posted about you. I posted because you misrepresented a dog and I drove out there only to see a poor little yorkie with the worst bite I've ever seen on ANY dog - with a severly distended stomach. When I was there I kept asking was what was wrong with the puppy - and I was ignored because she was more interested in my money. Both my husband and I got out of there fast - it was only when I emailed you later that we were totally cussed out. You can say what you want.... but I posted only the truth.

If you feel this strongly - Why not talk to the Fox people ?

What you posted was your opinion. Not the truth!! You have been on a crusade against me ever since.

CO_yorkie_momma 02-02-2007 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by valbholmes (Post 927658)
I actually did a search on Yorkie forums. I am so sorry I found this site.
I will say I have found some interesting and helpful things on it. I am glad to own a Yorkie after what I have read.
I am though unhappy with the things being said about the place I bought it from. I will repeat myself one more time. I am happy with my Yorkies, I bought them from Brushy Creek, I have had no problems, the people there have been nothing but nice. I thought they had a beautiful place there. If I had land like that, I would keep it fenced to. I will add the one thing I loved about the kennel, is it did not have the stench that some places have. It smelled cleaned, and all the dogs looked so happy, and loving. I am very proud of my pretty little Yorkies, and they are so happy. I have no regrets as to buying my dog from them.
I do appreciate the helpful advice on Yorkies I have found on this site. I do not appreciate the hate that is coming my way, because I am happy about my Yorkies I bought from this kennel.


What hate are you referring to? I missed it. I am surprised you were allowed in to see the conditions and the dogs. According to sparklingstars, their salesman and confidant, they dont let people in for fear of germs and such. I am glad you got healthy dogs and I am not sending hate your way. Were you asked to come and post your story or how did you hear about this thread?

valbholmes 02-02-2007 12:10 PM

I am so sorry to hear about the ppl that are unhappy. I am just trying to figure out how many there actually are. Not how many actually heard about it, but how many had a bad experience? I just wanted to let ppl know how good mine was! I am so happy with my babies, why can I not talk about that hear?
Do I need to post that some where else?
I can actually say, that if I ever need to buy another dog, it will be from Brushy Creek. I hope that i do not actually get a sick one, but it could happen. Actually it could happen from any where. I am actually very lucky I am not a first time dog owner, cause I do know to make my kids wash there hands before playing with the puppy, I know to keep the floors clean, I know to clean up with bleach and soap water. Those are the things you do when you bring a new baby in the house, human, or canine. There are so many things that can happen if you do not. Maybe that is why my babies have had no problems.

Timmy 02-02-2007 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by valbholmes (Post 927711)
I am so sorry to hear about the ppl that are unhappy. I am just trying to figure out how many there actually are. Not how many actually heard about it, but how many had a bad experience? I just wanted to let ppl know how good mine was! I am so happy with my babies, why can I not talk about that hear?
Do I need to post that some where else?
I can actually say, that if I ever need to buy another dog, it will be from Brushy Creek. I hope that i do not actually get a sick one, but it could happen. Actually it could happen from any where. I am actually very lucky I am not a first time dog owner, cause I do know to make my kids wash there hands before playing with the puppy, I know to keep the floors clean, I know to clean up with bleach and soap water. Those are the things you do when you bring a new baby in the house, human, or canine. There are so many things that can happen if you do not. Maybe that is why my babies have had no problems.


Mr. Moore's assistant: Please read this thread from the begining and you will see post from ppl that actually had sick puppies.

yorkiegirl83 02-02-2007 12:20 PM

This guy is CLEARLY a PUPPY MILL. Every place that mass produces dogs for profit is a PUPPY MILL -- you think this guy cares about every one of his dogs and gets proper care veterinary and otherwise for them? No way.

There is no adoption form.. he'll sell to anyone justifying that he doesn't CARE about the homes that the dogs go into IMO.

Even if ONE DOG is sick and/or dies he clearly doesn't care about the dog and the person he sold to, he cares about the cash that he would lose making it somewhat right.

SweetCuteness 02-02-2007 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by valbholmes (Post 927711)
I am so sorry to hear about the ppl that are unhappy. I am just trying to figure out how many there actually are. Not how many actually heard about it, but how many had a bad experience? I just wanted to let ppl know how good mine was! I am so happy with my babies, why can I not talk about that hear?
Do I need to post that some where else?
I can actually say, that if I ever need to buy another dog, it will be from Brushy Creek. I hope that i do not actually get a sick one, but it could happen. Actually it could happen from any where. I am actually very lucky I am not a first time dog owner, cause I do know to make my kids wash there hands before playing with the puppy, I know to keep the floors clean, I know to clean up with bleach and soap water. Those are the things you do when you bring a new baby in the house, human, or canine. There are so many things that can happen if you do not. Maybe that is why my babies have had no problems.

I would like to point out that I have never cleaned up with bleach and water and my puppies have never gotten sick. Not one of them. Want to know why? Because I purchased them from people who cared about them. I purchased them from trustworthy, reputable breeders who didn't mass produce so they were able to give the appropriate care to each, individual puppy - 24 hours/day, 7 days/week.

I find your explanation that people's puppies got sick is because they didn't know how to clean very far fetched. Next excuse?

Timmy 02-02-2007 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkiegirl83 (Post 927737)
This guy is CLEARLY a PUPPY MILL. Every place that mass produces dogs for profit is a PUPPY MILL -- you think this guy cares about every one of his dogs and gets proper care veterinary and otherwise for them? No way.

There is no adoption form.. he'll sell to anyone justifying that he doesn't CARE about the homes that the dogs go into IMO.

Even if ONE DOG is sick and/or dies he clearly doesn't care about the dog and the person he sold to, he cares about the cash that he would lose making it somewhat right.

:yeahthat: :goodpost: :thumbup:

valbholmes 02-02-2007 12:36 PM

My babies names are Fantasy and Iternity. I do not mean to refer to them as it, I was just telling the story. My babies are great. At the time of the story they did not have there names. We as a family had decided to name Fantasy after my daughters favorite perfume. When I went back to get ther other one, I named her after my favorite perfume. Oh I see I said other again, what word should I use instead? Either way they are the babies in our house. The girls are great. I am so sorry you do not belive me. Can someone please tell me how to post the pictures of the girls?

valbholmes 02-02-2007 12:37 PM

So is every home breeder a puppy mill? They do not give adoption forms.

SweetCuteness 02-02-2007 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by valbholmes (Post 927764)
So is every home breeder a puppy mill? They do not give adoption forms.

LOL, it's funny you should call him a "home breeder." Just because his mass dog producing facility is on the same land as his home does not make him a home breeder. No - every home breeder is not a puppy mill. Those that mass produce ARE a puppy mill. Even if there is no adoption forms, responsible, ethical breeders will at least interview the purchaser and will not sell the puppy to homes that don't meet a certain criteria of being a responsible, caring, loving, safe home.

yorkiegirl83 02-02-2007 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by valbholmes (Post 927764)
So is every home breeder a puppy mill? They do not give adoption forms.

RESPONSIBLE home breeders will ask a potential buyer many many questions before selling their puppies to them. They spend huge amounts of time breeding quality dogs and don't allow them to go to whoever has the cash first. Any at home breeder that DOES do that is a BYB.

valbholmes 02-02-2007 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 927732)
Mr. Moore's assistant: Please read this thread from the begining and you will see post from ppl that actually had sick puppies.

I am not Mr. Morre assitant. I did read the replys. That is why I keep asking, how many actually bought a sick dog? I see maybe 2 ppl who have had purchased a dog. The rest are just saying they have been there, and just talking from hear say.
I am just saying I have 2 beautiful babies, I bought them there. I have had no problems.
The most I have read, is the other ppl keep talking about someone else, and a couple of ppl keep trying to refer it back to Brushy Creek. One of those ppl have no proof that they have ever been there, and did not even buy a dog. They also keep saying bad things about the ppl that work there, I only saw 2 ppl there. Both have been very nice and polite. I will also add when I say there, I mean in the office. Any question I asked, they answered.
Now if someone could explain to mean in detail how to get pictures up, i will show you my babies! Would you please help me?

valbholmes 02-02-2007 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CO_yorkie_momma (Post 927700)
What hate are you referring to? I missed it. I am surprised you were allowed in to see the conditions and the dogs. According to sparklingstars, their salesman and confidant, they dont let people in for fear of germs and such. I am glad you got healthy dogs and I am not sending hate your way. Were you asked to come and post your story or how did you hear about this thread?

The hate I am refering to, is all the negative comments to the place I purchased my babies from. I do not see why all this hate is hear. I can understand one person having it. They bought a dog that got sick, do we know it was Mr. Moors fault, or thier fault?
I am the type of person that when I am happy with something I tell the world. I am happy, so I will tell anyone! Teh other person, is just saying they were there. I think they just want to bash, and keep the pot stirred up! I am also trying to figure out why they would keep on, when they did not buy a dog?

Amber_lv 02-02-2007 12:51 PM

to post a pic you go to the bottom when you post a reply and hit the manage attachment button you then browse your pics and upload they need to be under 200 kb if bigger you need to resize the pic


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