So angry
 

I am not sure if this is the right place to be posting this or not I am just so angry right now I really need to vent...
A couple months ago I purchased a puppy from a supposed breeder in South Florida, the dog was diagnosed with parvo and died 2 weeks later since then I have done a lot of research on the woman and have found that this has happened to numerous other customers of hers so I made a website...stopdixiepups.com in order to try and stop this awful breeder from continuing to sell sick dogs. well on my website I made a place for people to comment about where they bought their puppies. When people comment it gets emailed to me. Well today Julie (the breeder I bought my sick dog from) found the website and her husband had the audacity to comment....this is what he said...
"i am armando soutullo can you please go and get lad and leave people alone looks like you need a husband to spend your time in something better get laid and you will feel better"
.........Needless to say I am very angry right now! Please no one buy a dog from this breeder!!!!!

Thanks for the warning. I really suggest legal action. Did the puppy have at least it's first shots before you bought it? Many times parvo can be prevented with shots. They sound really immature. I would delete it and try not to let their childish ways bother you. How long after you bought the puppy did it die? did you take it to the vet when it started getting sick? I am sorry you had to go through all of this.

Go and get "lad." Did he mean "laid?" He can't even spell, so he might need to too. :p Not saying that you do. You know what I mean. Honey, don't let him piss you off. He's just sticking up for his wife. :rolleyes:

That's awful. I've seen other posts about that place - was that you also ? IF NOT - you may want to do a search here and maybe you can band together ...have you filed a complaint against this breeder ? Since your poor puppy was ill and died I would try to see if there is anything you can do.

I'm really sorry for your loss :( and I don't blame you for being upset. I'd be devestated too.

What a coldhearted tacky thing for him (or her) to say to you.

IMO, The email pretty much speaks for itself. The guy is a low life idiot, and not worthy of a response. Don't lower yourself to his standard by getting into an email war with him.

You can never win with people like that because they cannot be reasoned with. So your best recourse is to ignore him.

What a nut!
 

Ok..I have heard it all.......best thing you could do is...already done....we all know about this breeder now......and we have the choice to NEVER recommend them.....this will do more harm than than anything he could say to you......

Case closed

did you go and meet this breeder or was the puppy shipped? Thats why I frown on any breeder who is willing to ship a puppy, I think it is un-professional. You should always meet the breeder and the pups parents.
I'm a future breeder and I know for a fact I will NOT send my pups to just ANYONE. IMO if a breeder is willing to ship a pup, it's all about money, most breeders I have seen who is willing to ship a pup charges a arm and a leg for there pups and if the new owner can pay that sort of price for a pup, then they can pay for a plane ticket to go pick up the pup!
I'm sorry this has happened to you and I sure hope you go and meet your next breeder, If I were you I would even plan play dates with your new baby.
I hope you take legal action on this breeder, she really needs stopped!

I met the breeder and the dogs supposed parents. Not till after the dog became sick did I find out this woman was a con artist who imports the dogs from South America she shows your her two dogs at home and says they are the parents.

i had this happen to me along time ago with a rotty puppy my hubby bought...the woman told me she had the pup to the vet even gave me the vets name for the shots and checkup...well three days after i had the puppy he got deathly sick so i called the vet where she told me he had his shots at and the met me in the office for an emergency call...she done a parvo test on him and it came back possitive so she kept him ofcourse...well in the meantime we was talking about the woman and she looked his records up to see what shots he had there well come to find out the breeder never had him there for any shots....the last littler of puppies she had there was like three years prior to my puppy...so he had no shots when i got him but the funny thing is when she was there three years b4 this it was for parvo and the vet told me that parvo lives in your ground for seven years so it was in her yard there was no way around the pup getting it unless she had gave all her dogs shots and pup also which she didnt....so when i got home i called the woman back and told her what was going on and that i knew the pup had no shots and she went on to say to me that i crazy that she had gave the shots herself which wasnt true either...but funny thing was she tried to tell me the dog got parvo from my house but like the vet told me parvo is in thier system for 14 days b4 they get sick with it and i only had the dog for no more than three days....but it was going to still be hard to prove this to a court until the vet called me a few days later and ask me if she could give my number to another lady that had came in for the same reason i had my pup there for and had bought a puppy from the same littler mine was from and of course i said yes i wanted to see what she had told her and come to find out her dong had parvo also and the breeder had told her the same BS she told me....and every time i called the breeder the hubby would cuss me out and i mean vulgar stuff he would say...and i just said the heck with it i mean these ppl were just trashy ppl but i did call akc on her so what ever the did to her she deserved because she wasnt taking care of her dogs and seeing to it they got the medical help the needed.....my dog lived through it and so did the other womans that came from the same litter as my pup.....it ended up costing me over 600$ to get him better but it was worth it...i got him better then found him a new home because we had to moce and couldnt have a big dog where we lived at....but all this goes to show is you cant always trust the breeders it is sad but true...alot of these ppl are just in it for a quick buck and not for the dogs....*hugs* i hope you have better luck next time and find you a baby you can love i know this loss was hard for you.

The parvo virus could still be active so be very careful in introducing a new puppy. According to this article, the virus lives indoors for one month, in sunny areas outside 5 months, and in shady areas outside 7 months.

http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/health/parvo.htm

Was the puppy actually showing signs of parvo when you got him (i.e. not drinking, not eating, foul smelling diarrhea, vomiting)?

Don't want to take the side of an unreputable breeder, but most puppies will die sooner than 2 weeks if they came to you with parvo.

When I purchased the dog she was very tiny and ate very little but there was no blood in her stool and she wasn't throwing up. She drank very little. But other then that seemed normal, I got her on a Saturday, but Thursday morning the dog was acting very sick and lethargic so I took no chances and took her straight to the vet, she stayed at the vet and lived for 9 more days and died at the vets. Since then I have found at least 10 other people who bought their dogs from her that died of parvo as well of many others that were sick and managed to live through it. But so far everyone that has sued her has won in court but they never see any money. She claims she will send them a check and then either never does or sends them checks that bounce. Honestly I am over the money I just don't want anyone else to suffer that way I did and I dont want the poor puppies to have to suffer either.

It does sound like she had already been exposed to parvo before you got her. So sorry you went through this. I know you didn't have her very long, but I know it takes all of about a minute to become attached!

it sounds like the samething that happen to me...it is sad but these ppl are out there and they dont care for the dogs they are only in it for the money....i didnt sue the woman that lied to me because it just wasnt worth it and like you said you will never see the money anyway so why bother....the best thing is to report her the akc and anyone else who will listen and try to get the word around about her like you are doing by posting this here so others will not have to be put through what you are going through....i would becareful about getting a new puppy like the other lady said the parvo could still be there it can live along time....i know the vet told me to bleach everything in my house and as far as outside the only thing that will kill it is to burn the spots the dog pooped or peed in thats the only way....parvo is an awful thing to deal with for you and the dog.....*hugs* i hope all works well for you.....and i would also say the dog had parvo b4 you got it i know it is in thier system for 14 days b4 they show any signs on if thats what the vet told me and i only had my dog three says b4 he got deathly sick so i kno forsure he had it b4 we got him

I bought a purebred poodle for my son (and me :) ) for Christmas, it died 4 days later from Parvo too....I can symphathize with you. The sad part was--my son and I were grieving the loss of his brother/my son who was his best friend and I just wanted to bring some happiness back into his life and give him something to smile about again.....and we had to deal with death all over again!!!! The breeder knew about all of this as we had lengthy conversations before hand and he sold me a sick pup anyway!! One day he'll have to meet his maker!!! I just hope I get to run into him FIRST!

His name is Terry and last I heard he moved to Woodville, MS. Guess too many people were lookin for him.

dont let this guy get to you. these are the type of nasty people that sit in front of the computer all day and think about sex. anyways, there is really nothing more to be done. you have already warned us, so warn anyone you come across who is looking for a yorkie. just dont respond, or put Nicole in charge and ask her to "Scam the Scammer" for you! :p

:lol tears You're funny!!!

so she decided to post another commen on my website I made to try and stop her (the breeder that is) and this is what she decided to say...

*if you have a problem why don't you have the guts to call me i can contacting a layer to find out who you are many people are calling me to complain about you not me many people that have bought puppies from me and they are really happy if you have a problem you contact the person and straighten it out not go hide on the computer in the law it is called defermantion of cacharacter

yea I am really sure people are calling her to complain about me!!! what a moron it make me so angry!!!!!!

Not all breeders who ship are unprofessional..that is a blanket statement and is simply not true. you say and I quote "most breeders I have seen who is (are) willing to ship a pup charges (charge) a (an) arm and a leg for there (their) pups and if the new owner can pay that sort of price for a pup, then they can pay for a plane ticket to go pick up the pup! I don't think it's fair to judge people who choose to have thier pups shipped to them rather than fly to pick up the pup themselves. I have had two puppies shipped to me in fine condition by very professional breeders. Thank you and good luck with your breeding program.

First of all why would anyone complain about you, you didn't do anything wrong. Just proves how stupid they are. So Sorry about your puppy. It is sad, parvo is one of the things you can protect your pup from so easily. :( All you need is a clean environment and shots to prevent it. I think you should take legal action, just for the fact if not you who will? I would want this woman out of business!!!

I had a very similar experience and now the breeder will not honor his contract
 

Bad breeder= Joseph Jones in RockNwood Kennels.
My puppy only died last Saturday, and heartbroken and afraid of the risk of another unhealthy dog from the same breeder, we decided we'd like our money back or the veteranarian expenses covered and a new dog.
His contract states that he will send a new dog.
Now after I sent him the documentation that he required, he is telling me it is my fault that the pup died and that he will not send me anything until a judge orders him to do so. I am horrified and totally livid at the same time that in Bogey's memory all of this is happening. He sent me a dog that was 1.5 pounds and nursed on its mother till the day before he left on a 50 hour trip to me. He had an open Fontanel and even the shipping group said that he's the tiniest they've ever seen and that they almost lost him a couple of times...all they did was feed him with a syringe and also syringed karo syrup in his mouth. The breeder should never have sent him and he only got worse when he came to us. He was constantly on a see saw...his blood sugar never stabilized and I brought him to the vet after having already bruoght him the first day I got him. The puppy's body failed to respond to the IV's and everything that they gave him and he continued to not want to eat. Pls help me because now the breeder says I have harrassed him and he will not do anything until a judge orders him to do so. He said for me never to contact him again...see below after I scanned in all of the vet charts that they copied for me. Do I continue with my issue by disputing the charge on the credit card regarding quality and goods and services?
This is horrible!!!


________________________________________
From: Joseph Jones [mailto:joewjones@centurytel.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:19 PM
To: Greco, Mary-Alice
Subject: Re: Pls see attached documentation - with attachments-return receipt requested

Although said pup was perfectly health until he ended up in YOUR care!
We were willing to honor our guarantee.
You are chooseing to make this a legal matter. That is fine. I will wait until a judge orders me. I will give you nothing until said time that I am orderd by a court of law.Have you ever heard of harassing communacation? Do not contact me again.

cont
 

By the way we received him on May 31 at 3pm and he passed on June 10 at 5am.

Well, I would say that he/she had some help writing the last communication or maybe has learned to use spellchek..Only ONE misspelled word but it was a big one..Sorry, that strikes me as funny...
Anyhow, I would continue to fight this thru the credit card company especially if you have a written contract about another puppy and now they say they will not do anything unless ordered by a court. My friend who went to get the puppy she had already paid for, took the puppy to an ER because it was acting sick no more than 2 hours away from the breeder's house. The puppy was diagnosed with LS and probably hydrocephaly. She contacted the credit card co (she paid thru paypal) and they told her to take the puppy back to the breeder BUT BE SURE TO TAKE A POLICEMAN WITH HER as they had had really terrible experiences with dishonest breeders. She did, and the guy almost wet himself when he saw the cop. She did give the puppy back and eventually was credited with the cost of the puppy.
BTW, it was a different breeder...within 24 hours, he had re-listed the puppy for twice the amount she had paid and it included shipping. He would insure the puppy and when it was dead on arrival at the airport of the next buyer, he would collect from the ins. co, keep the cost of shipping from the buyer ($250.00) so he made out like a bandit..$3200.00 for the puppy and $250.00 for shipping..

Yes...I try with the spelling! I had a fat finger on that one word though...woops!
I can't believe that guy got away with that...I really hate some people. I was brought up thinking people were inherantly good...but I've been disappointed so much!

I think I will continue through with the credit card company, but I am also concerned with making sure that other people are aware of his dishonest practice. Let me ask one more question though:

His contract does state that he does not reimburse vet bills in capital bold letters...This I only received with shipment of the puppy (which was about 2months after my payment was made-he told me if I didn't make the payment in full, then they wouldn't keep me on the wait list for the puppy).
I however, never signed the contract, and as far as I can best remember, no where did it say that upon my purchase I understood those terms to be the case.

This is certainly something I can dispute right?

sp? on the inherantly?

it's awful what people will do for money! poor sick puppies !

Oh man this really upset me like really bad. When one of my yorkies has a litter The first thing I do is take them to the vet, and when it time for shots off to the vet I go,in all the shots they have parvo in them, I do not let my puppies on the dirt or grass until the last shot, vets orders I go what my vet says to the tee.



Ellen Wiggley,Daisy,Weezy,Bear,Peanut,SheDevil,Sunshine

Did you take her to the vet when you got her to be checked? I took Kizzy the day after I got her. My breeder gave me 4 days to get money back or another dog if it was due to illness. Which I thought all breeders gives at least 2 days. She didnt want me to take 4 but I told her it was the only way I would buy her. Or does parvo show up that early, I dont know anything about it. But why cant yu take her to civil court and make her pay you your money back since you have the vet to back up your story? I think I would.
That is so unfair and so much money to just throw in the garbage, or same as.