So true, that's why many of us on Yorkietalk do our best to discourage people from getting the smaller dogs. Anything under four pounds really is a lot harder to take care of even if it is healthy, just the chance of more accidents.

I don't think many people have any idea how bad breeding practices are and how unhealthy these purposely bred tinies can be. I had a yorkie for years (a massive teapot!), but until coming to this site last May I never knew there was any danger with smaller yorkies other than them jumping down from heights. Sad to say, but very few people know about puppy mills, petstores, and craigslist sellers, and the horrors these poor dogs have to put up with.

It's funny because I always call my 4 lb guy my little guy and I always consider him to be small. I can't imagine purposely seeking something smaller.

I can't imagine looking at my 17lb teapot Lou Lou how small and fragile these little guys must be...never mind the health problems that goes with it..I feel so sorry for these little ones and the poor quality of life they must have due to health issues....


Poor Milo..hope his health problems improve xxx


Shirl

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Natalie Nelson
 

Hi yorkie lovers . Mila walked to her pee pee pad today without falling😅tears of happiness. I would never have spent so much money even to buy a tiny yorkie if I knew there would be health issues. I never expected Mila not to be perfect in every way. Natalie is a champ at selling. She comes off super sweet and knowledgable and I just wish I had known about yorkie talk and all her history selling sick dogs. I can only now do everything I can for the next person to not be fooled by Natalie. Today she closed up her guest book as so many of you got to her on it. I'm glad she knows that people are realizing AGAIN what a bad breeder she is. Natalie had told me after I told her that Mila is sick that she never had a sick dog like this in all her years breeder. After all your support and well wishes I know this to not be true. Thank you again.

Oh my God, that is huge to hear about Mila!!! I'm so happy for you two, Gina!

Gina C, first of all, I deeply regret how sick your Mila is.

My Tatiana is also from Natalie. I guess I was lucky, as Tatiana is in excellent health. I did purchase Tatiana as an adult dog. She was three years old. Right now, Tatiana is six years old, and still in excellent health. She's small (3 lbs).

Again, I deeply regret your situation with Natalie. I'm shocked and dismayed.

Awesome news Gina! Have you contacted your local BBB, put reviews up on her on Rip Off Report, and have you checked to see if your state has a puppy lemon law?

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/pets/lemon_ma.html

Wow MA puppy lemon laws are terrible. :(

Does anyone know if the puppy lemon law rules in the state of the buyer or the seller?

I'm so happy for you!! Your baby girl is taking small steps towards recovery. I hope she continues to heal and get better. *HUGS*

natalie nelson
 

happy presidents day everyone. hope you all get a little time off extra today to spend with our loved ones. just to answer a few questions Mila is two pounds and probably done growing. however even if she was four pounds or 8 pounds she still would have these health issues as it is a birth defect. NOT a weight defect. I appreciate the tips that I have recieved here and starting tomorrow (as many businesses are closed today) i will contact court, irs, bbb, animal control, humane society, mspca. thats a great start. i did the ripoff report and yelp. I cant post anymore on Natalies website as she deleted the ratings and guestbook viewing since all mine and your posts. I do not have facebook, but again i know from everyone else that she blocks and deletes all comments. Sadly she hasnt even contacted me to see how Mila did in surgery. She never even asked if she made it through it. But she calls herself the grandmother to all her dogs. Id hate to have her as my grandmother!! Everyone kiss your yorkies beautiful faces today and count your blessings that they are perfect!! thank you all for giving me the drive to want to pursue closing her puppy mill.

I don't know anything about your little girls condition, but a lot of the hereditary diseases can happen in yorkies of any size. The smaller ones just seem more prone to it. I think in a lot of cases, they are small because they are sick, instead of being sick because they are small. Take Liver shut for example...it does occur in yorkies of all sizes but seems to be more prevalent in the smaller ones. One of the symptoms in liver shunt is "failure to thrive" so the liver shunt basically can stunt their growth. Unfortunately, bad breeders capitalize off this and sell them as micro minis when really they are small bc something is wrong with them. This, of course, isn't the case with every small dog and you can have a sick dog of any size...but it seems like the number of smaller dogs with problems is much greater than the bigger dogs.

On top of that, bigger dogs seem to be able to tolerate things better than smaller dogs...not even speaking just in terms of yorkies, but yorkies vs other breeds as well. Bc yorkies are small, their little bodies just don't seem to take stress and illness as well as say something like a lab or pit bull would.

just drop a dime to the irs...they would LOVE to audit someone like her..

Natalie Nelson
 

Whether your dog ( or anyone's dog) is 4 pounds 20 pounds 1.2 pounds, 87 pounds, IF they are found with a birth defect the breeder should be responsible . I have several dogs. I'd react the same way toward any breeder if any of them were sold to me with a birth defect. If you get a lab your taking a chance that you will have to have hip surgery. I know of a lab breeder that offers to pay for hip surgeries of pups that she sold. My reasons for posting are to aware people of a bad breeder so they do not have to go thru the heartache of watching your dog be sick and not no if they will survive. It's a scary feeling.

Thank you for the update Gina. Don't give up and contact everyone that you think will listen!

Another poor pup from Natalie Nelson

Natalie Nelson
 

Maybe I have too much time on my hands nursing baby Mila after her surgery but I found something you should all see, for 2 reasons- first being its a great cause. The woman taking care of the sick pups on her page must be a real life angel. And second I would like you all to view another birth defect of one of Natalie Nelson's dogs. I have never in my life seen a skull so ... Deformed. The pup, Valentino is a beautiful Lil yorkie. Please take a few minutes and look at the love for Mia Facebook page. On nov 27, 2013 there is a beautiful picture/video of Valentino. Then on dec 10, 2013 it shows pictures of valentines skull. Looking almost like Swiss cheese. It's devastating. Another birth defect from natalies breeding. How does she sleep at night? My heart goes out for Valentino. I pray something can be done for that tiny sweet boy!!

Gina, I know your heart is still spread wide open but please beware. The owner of that page is NOT the caring individual she portrays! (If it's the pave I'm thinking of)

Gasp that skull pic of Valentino is unreal! Poor baby.:(

The Mia Gina is talking about is a Chihuahua w/a cleft palate & it's called Love for Mia: https://www.facebook.com/LoveForMiaCleftPalateChihuahua

The other we need to look out for is For the Love of Mia Bella.

Thanks for checking me Jenny...:)
I was afraid Gina had gotten pulled in by the other.

Any time, I was afraid too, so I googled.;)

Natalie Nelson
 

Valentino is the sweetest little yorkie boy. Someone told me he was a pup bred by Natalie and when I asked Natalie she confirmed it was. The site is named after a chihuahua named Mia. The site takes all really sick dogs to Rochester New York for care. After seeing valentinos skull I do not know what could possibly done to fix his condition. I don't think he can walk either. I wish so much I could have the time and the money to help the lady Su with those pups. She is heaven sent.
As for Mila she's taking a few steps and I can't wait for her first follow up to check in on her progress next week. The front leg that they shaved for surgery she won't put any pressure on. Does the spot where the I V was hurt days after?

You are so right noonie. I posted about 2 breeders in Texas here way back and my thread just read "bad Breeders in Texas" Wow did I open a can of worms! and Worms those people were!

That thread and the Fox Reporter threads are still on this site.

I got SO MANY REPLIES and private messages regarding this so called 'Breeder' and learned they were just scamming people (l went IN Person and they tried it on me but i didn't fall for it) but....sadly, they were selling some very sick dogs to people - and the WRONG dogs.

I had so so many people contacting me here I couldn't hardly get off the computer... it was so freaking sad!

The owner wanted to sue me badly and the whole thing went to FOX NEWS.

They aired 3 segments on TV - The reporter for FOX NEWS actually signed up here -his name was David. He told me their news story about this 'Kennel' got more calls than the Enron scandle - WOW is all I could say. He wanted me on to be on TV but since I never bought a puppy when I was there I set him up with people who did and they went on tv.

Through that TV series -David told me it was so watched and talked about that INSIDE EDITION TV show picked it up and bought a dog Undercover from them.

They in turn did a segment about BAD breeders and selling puppies online and shipping them because the dog that was sent to them had some terrible health issues and was NOT the dog they had ordered.

Boy that was big fun getting them shut down - I need to search and see if they are back in business - they probably are :(

BUT with the help of YorkieTalk.... and my thread ...We DID get action! Pretty cool huh?

But like I said - that win was only short lived I'm sure - these people are like roaches when they don't care about the dogs they sell - they just re-open under a new name probably

Natalie Nelson
 

Red98vette I am so proud of you! Great job!!! Sadly my work and personal life have taken a second seat to all my Internet exploring on Natalie. It is so sad cause sadly people will still buy pups from her without checking her nasty reviews on the Internet. We all know what karma is and I feel that it will get justice on Natalie.

I am sorry that when searching for a purebred yorkie you did not find YT first, it might have saved you from this heartbreak. I assume you bought from this breeder due to her size promises and that makes me sad. A two pound yorkie is 3 lbs under the breed standard and $5,400.00 is highway robbery for a pet purebred Yorkie. By now I guess you know all this.

I do believe that her weight has contributed to this condition, but not in the way you are thinking. It's because you bought from a breeder who is trying to manipulate the breed into producing pups the size of small rats. When that happens all sorts of health issues arise. While it is true some show breeders will have a runt or two in a litter here or there they are still not trying to breed for them. While I am by no means an expert on AAI it does seem that many of the yorkies that suffer from this have been bred on purpose to be extra small.

One of the gals in a yorkie group I belong to has an AAI group, I think it is on yahoo, if you are not aware of it I will get you the info on how to join if you are interested. Best wishes for a good recovery for your gal.

You are so right, these "one trait" breeders who breed for just size or color often overlook all the other things that go into making a yorkie, but the MAJOR thing they overlook is health, if your going to be a one trait breeder breed for health!

I checked also, and the tiny females, like the one pounder, are not breeders. It states on the site that they are too small to breed so are pets.

Absolutely devastated for you, Gina. This was so incredibly heartbreaking to read. How is your precious Mila doing since you last posted?

Sadly, there are people out there that will see this thread and still want to buy from this woman. Everyone thinks the odds are going to work for them.

So to those who want a tiny pup: Yes, some of the dogs will be fairly healthy. There is a one in ten chance you will get a pup that will survive but do you really want to keep a woman in business who uses some of the cruelest of breeding practices in order to produce tiny pups?

Do you realize her breeding stock lives full time in tiny cages and only come out occasionally to be bathed for a photo shoot? Can you look at your baby and not think of it's parents still suffering to produce more of the same?

Do you have thousands of dollars to help that tiny pup survive? What will you do when the pup won't eat because it's liver is not formed correctly? What will you do when it' limps because of deformed knees? There are at least 100 other possible defects out there not to mention just plain lack of ability to thrive.

Do you really believe you are the one that will get a healthy pup from someone that uses substandard breeding practices?

I thank the OP for doing everything she can for her baby and also for doing everything she can to expose this person who would rather have little dogs produce puppies for her instead of working for a living.