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Old 12-20-2010, 09:09 AM   #1
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Exclamation How do I fix this behavior now?!

I first made a topic about potty training and nipping and can't thank you enough for the tips because the potty training issue is now gone and everything is progressing smoothly in that department. But the issue of nipping has gotten 100 times worse!

She used to nip at hands and feet and i tried an exercise posted on here about how to assert myself as the "alpha" where it was instructed to hold her down by her scruff and body for a few seconds till she submits, also to hold her out in front of me and give her a small shake when she growled. I regret ever doing those exercises because now she's biting me VERY hard on my hands, every time she bites me i have to check to see if she broke the skin.

Also every single time she gets something in her mouth that she's not supposed to have like a slipper or piece of plastic/paper or even a treat that fell if i try to take it from her she turns into cujo, bites EXTREMELY hard to the point of causing marks i swear it's like a rabid dog minus the foam at the mouth, it happened today and my mom was in shock and disbelief and told me to buy gloves.

things i've tried:
saying no= does nothing i don't think she knows that no means bad or stop so she completely ignores that command
yelping=get more excited and bite harder
ignore(put in pen)=whine to be taken out, then when i pick her up bites and growls
physical(hold down/by scruff)=go insane and try to rip my hands off

Another thing is I didn't know much about backyard breeder's and puppy mills etc when i got her, and i now believe she was taken from her mother way too early as when i went to see her at 8 weeks the mother was not there and he told me some excuse about if not registered the mom doesn't need to be present? i didn't really understand but i found out later he has many many ads up selling maltese,maltipoo,shihpoo,yorkies,yorkipoo and thought oh no

It's too late now she's here and i love her with all my heart but i cannot deal with this, btw she's only 12 weeks which shocks me that she can be so vicious , she has 2 sets of shots so i can't take her out for walks just yet
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i forgot to add that for the most part shes very sweet and already knows how to sit,come,stay,up and off furniture,down and working on "leave it"
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I have never agreed with the physical stuff. I think it destroys trust and can go south quickly. You want a puppy that minds you and trusts you. As well as you have done with the other training, I think you can stop the nipping, which is pretty common with puppies, especially, teething puppies, by just being consistent with whatever method you use. Have you ever tried using pennies in a can when she does this? I am only suggesting trying that if a big, loud no doesn't stop her along with placing her in an x-pen and ignoring her for awhile. Just be consistent and I think she'll associate one consistent correction with that behavior. I believe she is teething and that is making the problem worse. Does she have any bully sticks to chew on? You are going to have to use a deep, authoritative voice to get her to pay attention. If she senses any doubt or fear in your voice, then you will never get her trained. I hope things get better, but like I said, she's only 12 weeks, so you are going to need to be patient and consistent with her. You took the place of her mommy.
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You are correct that this problem can come from being taken from her mother too early and never learning bite inhibition. You now need to teach this and getting rough with her is not the solution. Like the above poster said, you need to be very consistent. Puppies chew ALOT, however, with patience and consistence many of them will grow out of it. What I did was say NO very loudly when my puppies would bite and then give them a toy that they were allowed to chew on. It is frustrating because they forget after two seconds and are back to the hands or feet. Sometimes I was doing this 100 times a day it seemed like. But if you are very consistent you will see progess over time. Good LucK!
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It can still be fixed if she is 12 weeks. When ever she bites you. say "Ouch" in a high piched loud voice. (it mimicks the sound littermates make when playing gets too rough)If she gets shocked enough to drop the item then take it away and call her to you to play. If she doesn't... show her a treat that she likes and call her to another room. If she comes praise her and give her the treat. then carry her over to the item and say "No". Then put it away.
If all this fails.... see if you can get some advice from a trainer. Petsmart has good ones in my area, but I know they are not all good. The Petco in my area has crazy trainers...I can't believe it sometimes. Also, The Humane Society might have a behavior counselor...they usually give free advice. I'm so sorry. I know how that feels. My old dog was like that too.
How old was she when you got her?
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Sorry I didn't read the part where you already tried the yelping. I would see a behavior counselor. I think they would give free advice. 12 weeks is still young enough to "nip this in the bud"
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She's still a baby, things will get better.
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I first made a topic about potty training and nipping and can't thank you enough for the tips because the potty training issue is now gone and everything is progressing smoothly in that department. But the issue of nipping has gotten 100 times worse!

She used to nip at hands and feet and i tried an exercise posted on here about how to assert myself as the "alpha" where it was instructed to hold her down by her scruff and body for a few seconds till she submits, also to hold her out in front of me and give her a small shake when she growled. I regret ever doing those exercises because now she's biting me VERY hard on my hands, every time she bites me i have to check to see if she broke the skin.

Also every single time she gets something in her mouth that she's not supposed to have like a slipper or piece of plastic/paper or even a treat that fell if i try to take it from her she turns into cujo, bites EXTREMELY hard to the point of causing marks i swear it's like a rabid dog minus the foam at the mouth, it happened today and my mom was in shock and disbelief and told me to buy gloves.

things i've tried:
saying no= does nothing i don't think she knows that no means bad or stop so she completely ignores that command
yelping=get more excited and bite harder
ignore(put in pen)=whine to be taken out, then when i pick her up bites and growls
physical(hold down/by scruff)=go insane and try to rip my hands off

Another thing is I didn't know much about backyard breeder's and puppy mills etc when i got her, and i now believe she was taken from her mother way too early as when i went to see her at 8 weeks the mother was not there and he told me some excuse about if not registered the mom doesn't need to be present? i didn't really understand but i found out later he has many many ads up selling maltese,maltipoo,shihpoo,yorkies,yorkipoo and thought oh no

It's too late now she's here and i love her with all my heart but i cannot deal with this, btw she's only 12 weeks which shocks me that she can be so vicious , she has 2 sets of shots so i can't take her out for walks just yet

She is 12 weeks old and if you don't stop it now it will only get worse...her biting you is not teething...its her being dominant over you...her telling you to stop it or you aren't getting my toy or food and so on...

when in play if she bites you say NO very loud and mean sounding and put her up in her crate/play yard and stop playing with her for like 10 to 15 minutes....if she is chewing on something and you go to take it from her and she growls at you or bites at you just grab her up...again say NO and put her in her crate/ play yard and leave her alone for 10 to 15 minutes...don't continue to play with her after you tell her no...if she was with mom and her litter mates they would yelp and stop playing with her and that is what you have to do....you have to be consistent with her and the time out or she won't learn...Good luck.
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Sounds like you are. Dealing with two separate issues here
The nipping is one thing but it also sounds like there are some true aggression issues here as well
The nipping you stop by saying No .... Hands up and she is left alone immediately
The holding down thing isn't good for those reason.... Aggression begets aggression
You need to work with her on allowing you to take anything from her mouth at anytime
I tell all people with new pups to sit and pet their dogs .... Put your fingers in their mouths and open their mouths
This gets them to trust you and used to them having you do this at anti me
Also work with her on toys being given and taken away
Give hear toy
Andtake it from her...... If she growls ?
Immediately it is taken from her and she's given a strong NO
Soon she'll get the message
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Sounds like you are. Dealing with two separate issues here
The nipping is one thing but it also sounds like there are some true aggression issues here as well
The nipping you stop by saying No .... Hands up and she is left alone immediately
The holding down thing isn't good for those reason.... Aggression begets aggression
You need to work with her on allowing you to take anything from her mouth at anytime
I tell all people with new pups to sit and pet their dogs .... Put your fingers in their mouths and open their mouths
This gets them to trust you and used to them having you do this at anti me
Also work with her on toys being given and taken away
Give hear toy
Andtake it from her...... If she growls ?
Immediately it is taken from her and she's given a strong NO
Soon she'll get the message
So true! Once they're use to having you touch them all over it will make brushing teeth, grooming, trimming nails, and pretty much everything easy.
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Great info about aggression. My dog Macy is the same way, in that she growls when you take something away from her she isn't supposed to have. She also growls when
she is sleeping and you want to move her to a different spot, etc.
I also have a question about eating poop. Sometime suggested giving dogs pineapple.
Wondering how much to give. It seems like it hasn't helped the problem yet. Anyone
have any info on this? I have been giving all my dogs pineapple in the morning.
Maybe I should give them more?
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just an update, Lexie is not showing signs of improvement. She still gets angry and viscous when i try to take things from her. I just pick her up and hold the object till she lets go enough for me to pull it out(i often get some major bites in this situation), but it's like this every single time. She is very alpha and does this thing where if i'm sitting and not playing with her she'll keep slamming her body and bumping her face into my hands while growling, occasionally bitting me. I tried to do as much research as i could before getting a yorkie but i so wish that i found this site sooner before getting her. I've seen some amazing breeders recommended who are in my area, and i sometimes think if i had gone with a proper breeder i would have a pup with a much better temperament. I feel bad thinking sometimes i could trade her for another pup i just don't know what to do, nothing seems to be working. She's 13 weeks old now and it seems she has a split personality, at times very sweet and loving, then the next aggressive biting and growling. I can't even put my hands on a toy she's chewing on without hearing a growl and it turning into a "tug of war". I'm going to buy a water bottle today in hopes i'll see some improvement. Worse case scenario i'll have to sell her and cut my loses(this would be the last straw), i just took her for her 2nd set of shots too *sigh*
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Have you considered a trainer? She's still very young and you might be able to work through this with some guidance.
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just an update, Lexie is not showing signs of improvement. She still gets angry and viscous when i try to take things from her. I just pick her up and hold the object till she lets go enough for me to pull it out(i often get some major bites in this situation), but it's like this every single time. She is very alpha and does this thing where if i'm sitting and not playing with her she'll keep slamming her body and bumping her face into my hands while growling, occasionally bitting me. I tried to do as much research as i could before getting a yorkie but i so wish that i found this site sooner before getting her. I've seen some amazing breeders recommended who are in my area, and i sometimes think if i had gone with a proper breeder i would have a pup with a much better temperament. I feel bad thinking sometimes i could trade her for another pup i just don't know what to do, nothing seems to be working. She's 13 weeks old now and it seems she has a split personality, at times very sweet and loving, then the next aggressive biting and growling. I can't even put my hands on a toy she's chewing on without hearing a growl and it turning into a "tug of war". I'm going to buy a water bottle today in hopes i'll see some improvement. Worse case scenario i'll have to sell her and cut my loses(this would be the last straw), i just took her for her 2nd set of shots too *sigh*
She is 13 weeks old! I CANNOT imagine giving up a dog at 13 weeks old- there is no possible way you could have consistently worked with her and tried everything possible at this age- and to be complaining about just having spent money on shots

You need to STOP trying ever method you hear of for a week here or there. Alpha roll, water bottle, etc.

You need to either 1. find a certified behaviorist ASAP and have them come into you house to assess the situation and offer help; or 2. turn her over to a rescue that is willing and able to take on this situation and work with her while she is still young and can be helped and then they will find her a suitable forever home.
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She is 13 weeks old! I CANNOT imagine giving up a dog at 13 weeks old- there is no possible way you could have consistently worked with her and tried everything possible at this age- and to be complaining about just having spent money on shots

You need to STOP trying ever method you hear of for a week here or there. Alpha roll, water bottle, etc.

You need to either 1. find a certified behaviorist ASAP and have them come into you house to assess the situation and offer help; or 2. turn her over to a rescue that is willing and able to take on this situation and work with her while she is still young and can be helped and then they will find her a suitable forever home.
i have had her for 4 weeks and this behavior started a few days after i got her. I have been doing the techniques since then to no avail. I was not complaining about the cost of the shots i was simply mentioning that as a fact. If worse comes to worse(i said last straw) then that would be my only option- to sell her not give her away, my mom has been bitten a few times also and is complaining that she is wild and telling me to do something about it and i just feel very hopeless. If i can find an affordable trainer in my area im willing to try that option but i wont give her to a shelter
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