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marcerella02 04-27-2009 05:10 PM
Has anyone tried this?
 
*sorry if this is in the wrong forum*

Has anyone tried this?

Dogs' thunderstorm phobia reduced by Storm Defender cape

it seems every year Layla has a harder and harder time with thunderstorms- two nights ago we had a horrible one- she was so upset we finally just went to bed (in her crate in the basement) at 9 pm just to calm her down. I'm thinking of ordering one- there is a 1 year return policy if it doesn't work...

jfalz73 04-27-2009 05:15 PM
Wow! I have to admit....that looks interesting!! I have a rat terrier that is terrible with storms....he knows when they are coming and he gets himself so upset. Shakes something terrible and the panting....i have tried medication, but i don't see it helping him...i worry that one of these times he will have a stroke or heart attack or something...it is sad that he is so afraid. You cant console him either..

marcerella02 04-27-2009 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jfalz73 (Post 2597481)
Wow! I have to admit....that looks interesting!! I have a rat terrier that is terrible with storms....he knows when they are coming and he gets himself so upset. Shakes something terrible and the panting....i have tried medication, but i don't see it helping him...i worry that one of these times he will have a stroke or heart attack or something...it is sad that he is so afraid. You cant console him either..
well if your dog gets upset BEFORE the storm- i'd say yes for sure this would work as he seems to sense the electricity. My thing with Layla is i'm not sure if it is the storm or the noise of the thunder- but i mean a 1 year return policy- can't go wrong right? I think i'm going to do it. I can't do another storm...

bchgirl 04-27-2009 05:24 PM
I would almost laugh over my vision of Wonderdog...if I didn't have a dog terrified of storms. It is not the lightening that frightens Ramsey...it is thunder. We can have lightening galore...if there isn't thunder she's fine. Ramsey's afraid of any loud noise...thunder, car backfiring, fireworks...

I'll differ on one statement on that ad...I've spoken with a behaviorist who assured me...offering her comfort when she's frightened does not reinforce her fear.

Storms which come in the middle of the night are the worse...we will be woken up.

Good luck...I can so completely relate.

Btw, storms don't phase the other three...

marcerella02 04-27-2009 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2597503)
I would almost laugh over my vision of Wonderdog...if I didn't have a dog terrified of storms. It is not the lightening that frightens Ramsey...it is thunder. We can have lightening galore...if there isn't thunder she's fine. Ramsey's afraid of any loud noise...thunder, car backfiring, fireworks...

I'll differ on one statement on that ad...I've spoken with a behaviorist who assured me...offering her comfort when she's frightened does not reinforce her fear.

Storms which come in the middle of the night are the worse...we will be woken up.

Good luck...I can so completely relate.

Btw, storms don't phase the other three...
ya we try not to comfort Layla, which is hard when she is in your lap shaking like a leaf- i go back and forth with it- she is going to be a complete mess anyways, at least she won't be alone being a mess- or just leave her... usually i'll go sit in the closet with her or by the toilet... So i'm really hoping this vest will work.

bchgirl 04-27-2009 05:34 PM
That's the reason I asked...am I making this worse? And if you think about it...that's rather silly...cause if it were attention she wanted...why not act scared whenever she wanted attention??? Makes sense to me.

Ramsey's "panic room" is my daughter's bedroom. We have no clue why that's where she wants to go...

bchgirl 04-27-2009 05:35 PM
Oh and Ramsey isn't frightened UNTIL she "hears" the thunder...a storm approaching does not set her off.

kalina82 04-27-2009 05:39 PM
Morgan became scared of thunderstorms soon after she turned 2 so i've only been dealing with this for a year. The cape sounds like a good idea. But if you want to try something cheaper first you can use non scented dryer sheets. Rub one over your dog when they first start getting agitated, or before hand if you know the storm is coming. This reduced the static charge on your dog and i think does almost the same thing as the cape. :)

marcerella02 04-27-2009 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2597521)
Oh and Ramsey isn't frightened UNTIL she "hears" the thunder...a storm approaching does not set her off.
same thing here! but i read the testimonials and they were talking about thunder anxiety- so i thought i might give it a try- and with the full refund- i feel like there is just nothing to loose... my heart BREAKS for Layla when she gets upset- and like you said- i KNOW she is not doing it for attention- she knows other ways to get that- she is honestly very very upset and I just want to be there for her.

marcerella02 04-27-2009 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 2597528)
Morgan became scared of thunderstorms soon after she turned 2 so i've only been dealing with this for a year. The cape sounds like a good idea. But if you want to try something cheaper first you can use non scented dryer sheets. Rub one over your dog when they first start getting agitated, or before hand if you know the storm is coming. This reduced the static charge on your dog and i think does almost the same thing as the cape. :)
huh- i have those! gonna give that a go! Thanks Kellie!

FlDebra 04-27-2009 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jfalz73 (Post 2597481)
Wow! I have to admit....that looks interesting!! I have a rat terrier that is terrible with storms....he knows when they are coming and he gets himself so upset. Shakes something terrible and the panting....i have tried medication, but i don't see it helping him...i worry that one of these times he will have a stroke or heart attack or something...it is sad that he is so afraid. You cant console him either..
I have a Jack Russell that is the same way. I read on that site not to give them excessive attention as that just reinforces their behavior for attention. Hmmmm.... I may have done that wrong! But I too, worry she will stroke out. She was out in the yard one day when a storm blew up suddenly. Lightening struck nearby and she just started running randomly around the yard, back and forth. We have an acre of the property fenced, so it was very difficult to finally catch her and get her inside. We were all drenched! From that day on, she has been a mess during any storm.

If anyone tries this and it works, please let us know. I am skeptical about gimmicks unless I know someone who can vouch for them.

kalina82 04-27-2009 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by marcerella02 (Post 2597548)
huh- i have those! gonna give that a go! Thanks Kellie!
your welcome!

i also wonder if the cape is snug against the body? it doesn't look like it in the photo. the reason i bring this up is because i read the book "animals in translation" by an autistic woman. And one of the ways she relates to animals is that having something tight against you, reduces anxiety. Cows in a squeeze chute became calmer when the sides of the machine became tighter against them while receiving vet treatment. She tried this on herself and received the same feeling that lasted for hours afterward. I think they mentioned similar feelings with dogs and tight capes...i really can't remember the situation. But the point is, if the storm defender cape is snug against the body it might help against the noises that way, and the metallic lining helps with the static charges. If its not snug, well then there goes my theory. LOL

another thing tho, after reading this book i tried the method out on morgan and wrapped her really snuggly in her blanket so that she had constant pressure on her. it worked, not perfectly, but i did notice she wasn't shaking as badly as when the storm first started.

wemple2 04-27-2009 06:10 PM
Interesting concept...I'm going to try the dryer sheets first. Winston goes ballistic long before I see lightning or hear thunder...but dogs hearing is so much better than ours, I assumed he heard it from a distance. If any one does try the cape, keep me informed...does it really work?

marcerella02 04-27-2009 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 2597568)
your welcome!

i also wonder if the cape is snug against the body? it doesn't look like it in the photo. the reason i bring this up is because i read the book "animals in translation" by an autistic woman. And one of the ways she relates to animals is that having something tight against you, reduces anxiety. Cows in a squeeze chute became calmer when the sides of the machine became tighter against them while receiving vet treatment. She tried this on herself and received the same feeling that lasted for hours afterward. I think they mentioned similar feelings with dogs and tight capes...i really can't remember the situation. But the point is, if the storm defender cape is snug against the body it might help against the noises that way, and the metallic lining helps with the static charges. If its not snug, well then there goes my theory. LOL

another thing tho, after reading this book i tried the method out on morgan and wrapped her really snuggly in her blanket so that she had constant pressure on her. it worked, not perfectly, but i did notice she wasn't shaking as badly as when the storm first started.
yes i know what you are talking about- she was on a canadian radio show talking about her new book- anyways- I read that you can wrap them in ace bandages and that will help. The cape is NOT snug. I've also tried wrapping Layla in a tight blanket but she is SO worked up it is too hot for her.

marcerella02 04-27-2009 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by wemple2 (Post 2597587)
Interesting concept...I'm going to try the dryer sheets first. Winston goes ballistic long before I see lightning or hear thunder...but dogs hearing is so much better than ours, I assumed he heard it from a distance. If any one does try the cape, keep me informed...does it really work?
we are going to give it a shot so i'll for sure post and let everyone know how it goes... they say you have to give it 3 storms to see a change.. i'm hoping we see a change on the first one :p

kalina82 04-27-2009 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by marcerella02 (Post 2597589)
yes i know what you are talking about- she was on a canadian radio show talking about her new book- anyways- I read that you can wrap them in ace bandages and that will help. The cape is NOT snug. I've also tried wrapping Layla in a tight blanket but she is SO worked up it is too hot for her.
ah i see

I would love to hear how the cape works for layla if you decide to get it!

Yorkiedaze 04-27-2009 06:31 PM
That is so worth trying. And if it works for Layla, that would be a major selling point to everyone who has dogs afraid of storms like she is. I wish I had it years ago when we had a little dog who would run to the bathroom and jump in the tub. I was amazed to read in that article that dogs sometimes do that.

bchgirl 04-28-2009 05:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlDebra (Post 2597564)
I have a Jack Russell that is the same way. I read on that site not to give them excessive attention as that just reinforces their behavior for attention. Hmmmm.... I may have done that wrong! But I too, worry she will stroke out. She was out in the yard one day when a storm blew up suddenly. Lightening struck nearby and she just started running randomly around the yard, back and forth. We have an acre of the property fenced, so it was very difficult to finally catch her and get her inside. We were all drenched! From that day on, she has been a mess during any storm.

If anyone tries this and it works, please let us know. I am skeptical about gimmicks unless I know someone who can vouch for them.

Oh how scarey for her. We don't have to chase Ramsey...one pop of a bottle rocket...her tail is tucked and she's headed inside.

marcerella02 04-30-2009 02:31 PM
ordered the vest today! we are having a storm tonight.... *sigh* hope it arrives by next week!

darnlora 04-30-2009 09:27 PM
I use oil of pepperment on the pad of my tootsies paws it works very well!! Oil of peppermint is very good for anxiety and fear also I use lavender room spray or a lavender infuser in room where she is. My sister uses the cape for her Chorkie and swears by it!!!! Best of Luck!!!!


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