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JeanieK · 03-27-2009, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by globemaster

We've been together for almost 7 months now. Over the last 2 months I've started looking at her as wife material as she's eliminated any of my issues (getting rid of her filthy cat and quitting smoking - i realize I'm not perfect). The only issue left is the dog's housebreaking habits and I refuse to believe he can't be trained. Between the dog and cat they've desroyed her appartment's carpet (which I understand I will probably be paying for one day) and most of her furniture. I can't allow her dog at my house 2 hours away because I know he'll destroy it and I also have a roommate who essentially pays my mortgage...

I hope she is not viewing you as marraige material. You sound like a control freak.

JeanieK · 03-27-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by carmengamble

I'm sorry but I have to step up and say something. It shows a lot of initiative that globemaster is on YT looking for tips on how to solve this road block him and his significant other are in at the time.

It also shows that he cares about the dog a lot since he replies to the majority of helpful tips and posts from others.

I think it is incredibly rude for you to pass judgment like this. He is looking for help, not looking to get bashed!

He is not looking for advice, he still insists that rubbing a dogs nose in urine or feces is the way to train them. and is not going to change his behavior.

KBJsMommy · 03-27-2009, 08:04 AM

When you were a baby...did your mother rub your face in a diaper for 1-2 minutes when you couldnt make it to the potty. Get a crate for the dog and teach your girlfriend how to train her dog. These are not standard dogs. If you cannot refrain from being so aggressive this dog is not for either of you. I am absolutely appaulled by your machismo intent when it comes to the obediance of this dog.
As much attention as you think you are giving, its clearly not enough.
Either pick up a book and learn about these dogs or start being a little more open minded when asking for advice.
Unreal.

JeanieK · 03-27-2009, 08:12 AM

If this guy was looking for insight and advice, he would be taking some constructive critisim. instead he insists that what he is doing is the right thing and he is not going to stop.

And i believe his story about irag is nutrue. How can he be in Irag and living in an apartment with his girlfriend and her dog, and have his own place

I 200 pound man touching a 3 pound dog in anger is what is unacceptable behavior. No one learns anything out of fear.

JeanieK · 03-27-2009, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KBJsMommy

When you were a baby...did your mother rub your face in a diaper for 1-2 minutes when you couldnt make it to the potty. Get a crate for the dog and teach your girlfriend how to train her dog. These are not standard dogs. If you cannot refrain from being so aggressive this dog is not for either of you. I am absolutely appaulled by your machismo intent when it comes to the obediance of this dog.
As much attention as you think you are giving, its clearly not enough.
Either pick up a book and learn about these dogs or start being a little more open minded when asking for advice.
Unreal.

Best post on this thread. Get a book and learn together. Learning and solving a problem together will make your relationship stronger.

ralphmaddy · 03-27-2009, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by globemaster

I'll take any amount of bashing to get the little guy properly trained. He means too much to my girlfriend to allow for any other option than proper training and I'm willing to put forth any effort. I just need help since I'm gone a bunch.

It turns out my girlfriend had a little more to drink last night than I realized. She was out with a friend while I was at home taking care of personal stuff. She must have passed out while I was walking her. My girlfriend feels bad about it and gave me a verbal tonight that she'd help out more. I spelled out to her that the dog WILL be taken out EVERY 3 hours.

As for telling me not to have children... Its not like I'm some drunken redneck. I rubbed a dog's face in pee to help train it. I'm a C-17 pilot in the Air Force flying Aeromedical Evacuation out of Balad Iraq. My parents raised me pretty well and I'm sure I'd be capable of raising kids if I set my mind to it. Part of this argument IS about raising kids, because I want to know that she is going to play a role in their training and discipline. Having your boyfriend train your dog 18 months after you got him is not responsible. I also don't want my kids growing up rolling around in dog urine.

This is just a clarification he never said he was IN Iraq....

JeanieK · 03-27-2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ralphmaddy

This is just a clarification he never said he was IN Iraq....

He said he is flying medical evacuation out of Iraq. how can he do that without being in Iraq.

ralphmaddy · 03-27-2009, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JeanieK

He said he is flying medical evacuation out of Iraq. how can he do that without being in Iraq.

Forget it I give up.... This is unreal....

hartygirl · 03-27-2009, 08:40 AM

He was probably there for his assignments, but lives in another country at this time. Maybe Eroupe or the US?
Pilots fly in and out, they don't stay in one place for too long.

chickwit · 03-27-2009, 08:46 AM

I can't believe that this guy has gotten everybody riled up

Give him advice and leave it at that!!!!!Sorry but I'm sick of these awful threads and everbody attacking each other.......he is probably getting a kick out of it

Good Luck with the Puppy and I'm sending Prayers his way

Take Care!!!
By the way this Thread makes me ill,YUK

Potter · 03-27-2009, 08:52 AM

I am very plain and direct in my language. You are a HORRIBLE Yorkie owner or part owner. I hope one day you fall face first in to a pile of s**t and see how that feels. There are many ways to train and positive reinforcement and patience WITHOUT punshiment works best but you are so stubborn you do not even want to listen to what other Yorkie owners say. What a cow.

mscat · 03-27-2009, 09:16 AM

Gosh, this guy is a piece a work

IMO, cat pee is much more potent than dog pee. With the two combined the smell must be just awful.
I think it is time to rehome ALL their animals and then shampoo their carpets and furniture. their is no excuse whatsoever for anyone to live in filthy living condions. People like this should never be allowed to own animals!
Under no circumstances shoud a little yorkie be trained in this manner. this makes me ill. This man has no idea that he is harming this poor little Yorkie.

Then they are leaving him in a crate all day long? OMG, how cruel. Those people are totally messed up. It is not the Yorkie's fault, it is his owners who are. If we YT'ers could only know where these people were located! It takes all kinds doesn't it!
this guy has not returned since yesterday either.

Carterna · 03-27-2009, 09:32 AM

I think that it's great that you want to help your girlfriend out. I think it would be a good idea if you both did some research together on the breed as they are very much different than other dogs. A great resource is even to watch animal planet because they have lots of dog training shows and there are a few different trainers so you can pick and choose your favorites. I believe that if rubbing his nose in the urine/poo is what you feel is best so be it. I am just concerned with the fact that you want him to be scared because the problem with that is it could instill fearful aggression which can cause many issues not only in the relationship between him and you but as well affect his relationship with other people and animals. You can read more about it online but when I received my two year old yorkie, Izzy, she had fearful aggression which caused lots of problems for me! Good luck with your training, its a struggle I know but it pays off to do it!

Also, I wanted to say thank you for serving our country & I greatly appreciate it!

dlross · 03-27-2009, 10:05 AM

Obviously you haven’t got a clue on what your during and isn’t to bad yr girlfriend doesn’t either. To have a dog scared of you is the dumbness thing I’ve heard, and rubbing it face in its mess for 1-2 minute is even stupider, maybe someone should do the same with you. Leave the poor yorkies alone, maybe if the two of you can handle the poor dear maybe it should be re-home to someone who has the time and loving care for it.

TOY · 03-27-2009, 10:51 AM

My "apologies" to the board if I misunderstood him about Iraq. Wherever he is though, it sounds as though he is in the military serving our country. Why do I think that? Simple. I generally trust people until I'm proven wrong. It seems to make life much more pleasant for me than automatically assuming people are liars.

As for him not coming back to the thread... (1) He's probably busy. I doubt that he has the time to stay continuously on the board...OR (2) He's taken all the verbal abuse he plans to stomach after asking for guidance.

I am having a great deal of trouble understanding the verbal cruelty of some people to another human being...while at the same time they cry foul at the treatment of a dog. Am I the only one seeing the disparity in this?

I cannot imagine a worse teaching method than condemnation. A person asks for help and advice and what is given is condemnation? Exactly how is this supposed to help? Rather than encouraging him to change, the condemnation creates a "circle the wagon" defensive pose which will do nothing but make the person try to prove the effectiveness of the original method...and the dog continues to suffer.

My word! There was a real opportunity here for genuine teaching and retraining which would have helped the situation. Instead, the person asking for help was lambasted and condemned...really encourages him to return for further advice, doesn't it?

03-27-2009, 08:04 AM	#108
KBJsMommy Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Middle Village, NY, USA Posts: 15	When you were a baby...did your mother rub your face in a diaper for 1-2 minutes when you couldnt make it to the potty. Get a crate for the dog and teach your girlfriend how to train her dog. These are not standard dogs. If you cannot refrain from being so aggressive this dog is not for either of you. I am absolutely appaulled by your machismo intent when it comes to the obediance of this dog. As much attention as you think you are giving, its clearly not enough. Either pick up a book and learn about these dogs or start being a little more open minded when asking for advice. Unreal. __________________ Killer Beau-Jangles (w/ Mom & Daddy)...Proud members of the American Kennel Club, American Canine Association and Continental Kennel Club.

03-27-2009, 08:40 AM	#114
hartygirl megan - g Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,324	He was probably there for his assignments, but lives in another country at this time. Maybe Eroupe or the US? Pilots fly in and out, they don't stay in one place for too long. __________________ Last edited by hartygirl; 03-27-2009 at 08:42 AM.

03-27-2009, 08:46 AM	#115
chickwit YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Airdrie,Alberta,Canada Posts: 358	I can't believe that this guy has gotten everybody riled up Give him advice and leave it at that!!!!!Sorry but I'm sick of these awful threads and everbody attacking each other.......he is probably getting a kick out of it Good Luck with the Puppy and I'm sending Prayers his way Take Care!!! By the way this Thread makes me ill,YUK __________________ Linda and Harley Regret makes you old, and bitterness poisons the people around you. Last edited by chickwit; 03-27-2009 at 08:49 AM.

03-27-2009, 08:52 AM	#116
Potter YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,583	I am very plain and direct in my language. You are a HORRIBLE Yorkie owner or part owner. I hope one day you fall face first in to a pile of s**t and see how that feels. There are many ways to train and positive reinforcement and patience WITHOUT punshiment works best but you are so stubborn you do not even want to listen to what other Yorkie owners say. What a cow. __________________ http://www.dogster.com/pet_page.php?j=t&i=410379 "No matter how little money and how few possesions you own, having a dog makes you rich."

03-27-2009, 09:16 AM	#117
mscat YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hanford, CA Posts: 4,895	Gosh, this guy is a piece a work IMO, cat pee is much more potent than dog pee. With the two combined the smell must be just awful. I think it is time to rehome ALL their animals and then shampoo their carpets and furniture. their is no excuse whatsoever for anyone to live in filthy living condions. People like this should never be allowed to own animals! Under no circumstances shoud a little yorkie be trained in this manner. this makes me ill. This man has no idea that he is harming this poor little Yorkie. Then they are leaving him in a crate all day long? OMG, how cruel. Those people are totally messed up. It is not the Yorkie's fault, it is his owners who are. If we YT'ers could only know where these people were located! It takes all kinds doesn't it! this guy has not returned since yesterday either. __________________ "No matter how little money & how few possessions, you own, having a dog makes you rich."

03-27-2009, 08:12 AM	#109
JeanieK Donating YT 12K Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Council Bluffs Iowa Posts: 12,552	If this guy was looking for insight and advice, he would be taking some constructive critisim. instead he insists that what he is doing is the right thing and he is not going to stop. And i believe his story about irag is nutrue. How can he be in Irag and living in an apartment with his girlfriend and her dog, and have his own place I 200 pound man touching a 3 pound dog in anger is what is unacceptable behavior. No one learns anything out of fear.

03-27-2009, 09:32 AM	#118
Carterna Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bloomington, Indiana, U.S.A Posts: 225	I think that it's great that you want to help your girlfriend out. I think it would be a good idea if you both did some research together on the breed as they are very much different than other dogs. A great resource is even to watch animal planet because they have lots of dog training shows and there are a few different trainers so you can pick and choose your favorites. I believe that if rubbing his nose in the urine/poo is what you feel is best so be it. I am just concerned with the fact that you want him to be scared because the problem with that is it could instill fearful aggression which can cause many issues not only in the relationship between him and you but as well affect his relationship with other people and animals. You can read more about it online but when I received my two year old yorkie, Izzy, she had fearful aggression which caused lots of problems for me! Good luck with your training, its a struggle I know but it pays off to do it! Also, I wanted to say thank you for serving our country & I greatly appreciate it! __________________ LOVE MOOSE & MOMMY R.I.P. IZZY

03-27-2009, 10:05 AM	#119
dlross YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 286	Obviously you haven’t got a clue on what your during and isn’t to bad yr girlfriend doesn’t either. To have a dog scared of you is the dumbness thing I’ve heard, and rubbing it face in its mess for 1-2 minute is even stupider, maybe someone should do the same with you. Leave the poor yorkies alone, maybe if the two of you can handle the poor dear maybe it should be re-home to someone who has the time and loving care for it. __________________ Deborah

03-27-2009, 10:51 AM	#120
TOY Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 4	My "apologies" to the board if I misunderstood him about Iraq. Wherever he is though, it sounds as though he is in the military serving our country. Why do I think that? Simple. I generally trust people until I'm proven wrong. It seems to make life much more pleasant for me than automatically assuming people are liars. As for him not coming back to the thread... (1) He's probably busy. I doubt that he has the time to stay continuously on the board...OR (2) He's taken all the verbal abuse he plans to stomach after asking for guidance. I am having a great deal of trouble understanding the verbal cruelty of some people to another human being...while at the same time they cry foul at the treatment of a dog. Am I the only one seeing the disparity in this? I cannot imagine a worse teaching method than condemnation. A person asks for help and advice and what is given is condemnation? Exactly how is this supposed to help? Rather than encouraging him to change, the condemnation creates a "circle the wagon" defensive pose which will do nothing but make the person try to prove the effectiveness of the original method...and the dog continues to suffer. My word! There was a real opportunity here for genuine teaching and retraining which would have helped the situation. Instead, the person asking for help was lambasted and condemned...really encourages him to return for further advice, doesn't it?