revenge peeing?
 

My sophie will be 8 months old on monday. She has me trained pretty well, and doesn't potty in the house. I try to take her out every 2-3 hours, crazy I know. If I'm not here, my mom lets her out every 3 hours. In the past few weeks, she has been peeing on her blanket in her kennel. On the days that I leave early or she is home with just my mom, it seems she is worse and her blanket smells. I always leave her out to play and be with me if she goes potty outside and when she doesn't she goes back into her kennel.

I thought this might be kind of a revenge thing, since I'm not here to be with her. I have resorted back to putting her in a little kennel in hopes of getting her to stop doing this. I'm also hoping to be able to teach her to hold longer than 2 hours. Now I find when I take her out, she won't go to the bathroom. I may be going about this wrong, which is why I am asking. When she goes outside she gets so preoccupied with the wind, or leaves and I keep telling her to go potty, but sometimes it takes a very long time for her to go, around 20 minutes or more. Does anyone have any suggestions on what to do, or if I am going about this wrong? When she goes potty outside I always let her visit the other dogs downstairs, kind of like a reward. I'm just not sure what to do, and I feel guilty for putting her in a smaller kennel.

wow, I've never heard of this in a dog - a cat yes, but not a dog.

I wonder if she could have a urinary infection - especially since you talk about the odor - I would make an appt right away to go to the vet to be sure

I don't believe in revenge peeing either. She may have an infection, has she been spayed recently? Many people withhold water thinking this will aid with training and this too can lead to infections, water should be available 24/7, so that the bladder gradually stretches, and can hold more. Also, you need to clean her blanket with an enzyme cleaner or she'll just think it's a washable pee pad. Does she spend all day in her kennel, except for potty breaks? Have you thought about putting her in a larger space with a pee pad?

I have not ever heard of revenge peeing either.... Could be a UTI , or that she needs to go out more often. I use potty pads which are life savors. Could she be peeing in her sleep?

I don't have a solution for this but I do believe there is such a thing as revenge peeing. My 7 year old Dachsie started peeing on the floor shortly after we took in our little Yorkie almost 4 years ago. When she passed last month, he did not stop. Now that we adopted our 5 month old YorkiePoo and we are working on potty training him, the Dachsie basically does not get much chance to be the one that pees on the floor (except today that is). We feel he is jealous about losing some of the attention but he still gets a lot.

I wish you all the best in trying to correct this issue. They certainly have minds of their own and they know that they are the real bosses. :animal36

When another dog comes into the house, a male dog often starts marking, this isn't the same as revenge peeing. It's more of a hormonal thing, and not much can be done, except bellybands.

I hate for anyone to think that their dog is getting revenge on them; this will not lead to proper training, and could lead to aggressive behavior from the owner.

Are marking and huge piddle spots the same thing? That is an honest question because we never had that problem before we brought Casey home. The two of them both wandered around the back yard together doing a little piddle here and a little piddle there. Peanut is still a very good boy overall. We figure it is just his way of reminding us that he is not happy having a brother or sister. It is not often that he does it and we still cuddle him on our laps and talk to him and scritch him. I wish that when he does piddle in the house, he would use Teddy's pee pad instead but that is okay. All of our floors are laminate so we just wipe it up then spray it with the hardwood floor special odor eliminator we got at Petsmart. Peanut finally started playing with Teddy today after a little over a week so we know that he is warming up to his little brother. :)

my piglet is a RPER
 

my piglet will pee out of spite .. if i pull ear hair or bath her when she want to play she will pee on my side of the bed .. I KID YOU NOT .. if i take another fur kid and not her she pees IN MY SHOE .. and ive got good taste in shoes ..I tell her its rude and i swear she glares at me and wiggles her little butt away to pout !!

One of our females, Cricket, will revenge pee. If you do anything to upset her. Stay gone too long, don't give her a treat, whatever it may be that upsets her, she will get you back. She will wait till you are around. It's not that she had an accident. She will purposely go pee on something of the person that she is mad at.

You're right, if it was a large puddle it was probably pee, but remember too, that stress can throw off potty training. Often when people move to a new house, a previously trained dog seems to lose all his training. I'm not sure why they do it, I just don't think it's revenge. Revenge is more of a human thought out idea. Even a child acting out, isn't seeking revenge, but attention or comfort. I just can't believe a dog could be this "little." People who are seeking revenge are trying to build up a very weak self-image.

hmm perhaps her and piglet and pee on a left and a right Shoe .. my new Jessica Simpsons were trashed *pout*

I suppose revenge peeing is possible (although some trainers don's believe that revenge is a dog emotion). Assuming all medical problems have been ruled out, I would look at stress/fear urination, excitement urination, marking and most of all separation anxiety first.

No, I only take water away at around maybe 8 at night, she always has access to it. She was spayed about 2 months ago, this has started about 3 weeks ago. It coincides with me going back to school. She is not left in her kennel, as I would find that cruel. My rule is as long as she goes potty outside she can play and be out with me. If she doesn't, I think it kind of encourages her to go in the house. I have been crating her in her smaller kennel, and she is doing great actually now. I think her wire kennel was just too large for her and left her too much room. I'm hoping that I can transition her soon back into it. I'm hoping that she is learning that when I am gone, that I will be back. Someone brought up separation anxiety, and I wonder about that now. She is not left alone, but she spends about 85% of her time with just me. Maybe that was how she was dealing with that.

I believe in revenge peeing and I have to afigure a way to stop my puppy from doing it. After I yell at him for doing osmething wrong, he'll walk a couple steps away and look at me while peeing two drips on the floor. Then he'll walk away as if nothing happened. He also does this when I'm gone too long. ]=

This is called "submissive urination". You shouldn't yell at your dog, most trainers say for best results, ignore the failures and reward the success. Lot's of things work to train a dog, but some methods of training bring about more bad behavior, or undesirable consequences. Sumissive Urination

I don't really believe in the revenge pee either. A dog may pee because it's stressed or upset, and who is to say whether the dog is just upset, or upset with YOU in particular. Getting a new sibling is stressful (and releases hormones), and as humans we understand that the new dog is not going away, so it's easy to assume the dog is expressing its resentment. I think dogs are pretty direct, though: if it doesn't like the new dog, it's more likely to simply attack the newcomer, beg for your attention, or bark.

As Nancy1999 said, dogs often lose training when they move to a new house. Again, as humans, we think of moving as exciting and stressful, but not something to cause resentment. But the behavior is the same. Why not say the dog is peeing as a way to complain about his new surroundings?

Also, it's important to make sure you aren't inadvertantly reinforcing bad potty behavior. If your dog pees when you're gone, he may notice that pee tends to keep you around - he gets some attention, albeit negative, you may take him outside to go, and you'll hang around to clean up the mess.

People tend to personalize barking as well. When our dog barks at us, we assume that he knows how annoying he is and is using it against us. Of course, dogs don't see barking that way at all - they are using a basic way to get our attention, and for some reason, we haven't noticed yet. If we train them well, they stop barking because they realize it doesn't work, not because they see that we need to get up at six am for an important work presentation.

Now all that being said, Thor's previous owner had a boyfriend who was not particularly fond of him. She told me that once when her bf picked Thor up from a particularly stressful grooming session, Thor lifted his leg and marked him! So I'm not going to say for sure that dogs don't understand revenge. :)