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Old 07-19-2007, 03:16 PM   #31
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:18 PM   #32
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If in fact people would read the posts thorougly before posting it would eliminate people jumping in at chastising someone for an accident Knowing how to differeniate from those that are hell bent on breeding without doing the research. Accidents happens.

You've got time and I know you're kicking yourself in the butt, nobody else has to do it for you.
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:31 PM   #33
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Well here it goes... I am set up to be able to keep them apart. I took Peaches for a walk as did my daughters take their Yorkies as well. Our Yorkies walked along the side of the pond and we then noticed there were some spritz of Poison Ivy growing there. In fear that it had got on there fur we took them home for a bath so that I would not get it because I am severley allergic to it. My Oldest daughter took her Boy Yorkie in one bathroom I took Peaches in the OTHER bathroom. My oldest daughter was then towel drying the Boy, Rascal on her lap in the Living Room. I went to say something to my other daughter after Peaches was finished her bath... I opened the door up slightly to say something but that quick she jetted out.. Rascal jumped off her lap and on to Peaches... My daughter hollered but to late... They were Tied. I think LOADS of ppl on here would agree that could happen to anyone.. Even one who is as PERFECT as YOU! I have a downstairs that I normaly keep Peaches during her season >>> While I was researching, Studying and deciding b4 I made the decision whether I wanted to attempt in Breeding or NOT.

Yes it can happen just that fast. Mine were especially frisky after a bath also. people who have not experienced this, have no clue how quickly it can happen.

When it happened to mine, I was advised to let them together for more breedings to hopefully prevent having a single pup that would get to large. I was lucky, it was too late in her cycle and she did not take.

I think we can all learn from this.

Good luck with the c section. I hope everything goes well for all concerned.
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Don't let one person get to you. Accidents do happen. As hard as it is, please don't be too scared. Just follow the advice these wonderful people have given you and all will be fine. I can't wait for the wonderful birth announcement. Best wishes to you and Peaches!!
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I am so very sorry for the unplanned pregnancy and the stress you are under. You have had tons of positive input from some of our very experienced and competent breeders and encouragement and hugs from many who are either beginning breeders and/or just well wishers, me included. I will keep you and Peaches in my thoughts and prayers.

I would definately start looking for a new vet. I can't imagine a vet that doesn't do c-sections.
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Old 07-19-2007, 06:32 PM   #36
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Okay, I am wondering....I had two different advices.. Some said do a Scheduled C-section.. Others said I should let her go in Labor. Leaving me confused on what one to do.

MY dogs only tied "Once" now I wish I had let them tie again like some breeders had said.. but other told me not to as well as my Vet... Sooooooooo I didnt let them tie again. Wish now that I had because just like the Breeders that told me to let them tie again... They said that if I didnt she could end up with ONE BIG puppy... and that is what happend.
So, Do I schedule the C section or let her go in Labor and then take her?
She tied on May 27. I am POSTIVE about that cause I marked it that Very day so that there would be NO question.
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Okay, I am wondering....I had two different advices.. Some said do a Scheduled C-section.. Others said I should let her go in Labor. Leaving me confused on what one to do.

MY dogs only tied "Once" now I wish I had let them tie again like some breeders had said.. but other told me not to as well as my Vet... Sooooooooo I didnt let them tie again. Wish now that I had because just like the Breeders that told me to let them tie again... They said that if I didnt she could end up with ONE BIG puppy... and that is what happend.
So, Do I schedule the C section or let her go in Labor and then take her?
She tied on May 27. I am POSTIVE about that cause I marked it that Very day so that there would be NO question.
You can worry and ponder over the advice given to you. Each of us breeders will go by our experiences. The best advice I can give you is find a vet that you're comfortable with, one that is familiar with small breeds and make a decision together.
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Since you are probably going to have to find another vet to do the c-section, why dont you get a second opinion from him and see what he says. He might think she will be ok or he might be on call to do the section when she goes in to labor if she has trouble. I had an accidental breeding once and I did not let them tie again and she ended up having a very large singleton. She didnt have any trouble delivering her but she was about 5 1/2 lbs too I think. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. I am sure you are very scared.
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Im sure that everything will go well with your baby. I also will be looking for the thread were we can all welcome your new addition into the world.
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Joy,
First you are in our thoughts and prayers. I want to tell you that our Davie's first litter was with one "big" boy that the vet said would need to be taken by c-section. Davie went into labor, and I waited till the vet was open, about 2 hours and called to get her in. No big hurry. We left the house and went the .8 of a mile to the vet...I was sitting in the waiting room with Davie on my lap, and she made one big push and I had her and a puppy on my lap. Davie broke the sack and a vet tech tied and cut the cord, the next contraction the after birth was delivered, and after the dr. saw we were all OK, we went home..all three of us!! Moral of this story....Peaches may need a c-section, but she may not either. Get another vets opinion.
We have an accident litter right now at our house and it has been the best opps ever. Lexie and Harley only tied once, with a wire crate betweem them, and 61 days later we have the most beautiful litter of 7 healthy puppies. Now would I have liked to have Lexie skip that heat...yes, but will I send this precious bundles of joy "packing" no...I am going to enjoy every minute of the time I have with them, and find wonderful forever home when they are lots older. Things happen for reasons and sometimes the reason is not apparent to us or the people around us right away.
Please do not let people that are judging upset you. Look for the positive post, and keep asking questions. If you ever want to talk, PM me and I will be here for you (as many of us will be). Best wishes for a wonderful outcome!! Please keep me posted.
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Good luck with your baby girl and pup. Hope everything goes well!!!
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First you are in our thoughts and prayers. I want to tell you that our Davie's first litter was with one "big" boy that the vet said would need to be taken by c-section. Davie went into labor, and I waited till the vet was open, about 2 hours and called to get her in. No big hurry. We left the house and went the .8 of a mile to the vet...I was sitting in the waiting room with Davie on my lap, and she made one big push and I had her and a puppy on my lap. Davie broke the sack and a vet tech tied and cut the cord, the next contraction the after birth was delivered, and after the dr. saw we were all OK, we went home..all three of us!! Moral of this story....Peaches may need a c-section, but she may not either. Get another vets opinion.
We have an accident litter right now at our house and it has been the best opps ever. Lexie and Harley only tied once, with a wire crate betweem them, and 61 days later we have the most beautiful litter of 7 healthy puppies. Now would I have liked to have Lexie skip that heat...yes, but will I send this precious bundles of joy "packing" no...I am going to enjoy every minute of the time I have with them, and find wonderful forever home when they are lots older. Things happen for reasons and sometimes the reason is not apparent to us or the people around us right away.
Please do not let people that are judging upset you. Look for the positive post, and keep asking questions. If you ever want to talk, PM me and I will be here for you (as many of us will be). Best wishes for a wonderful outcome!! Please keep me posted.
Thank you so much! I did take the advice today....Thats what I was doing .. I got a Second opinion from another Vet and they said they Say Def. a C-section. I have her scheduled on day 61 ... that is on July 27th. I will keep you updated and thank you for all that you have helped me with and all your support. Thank you! Thank You! Thank You!
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My suggestion is to get on the phone and start looking for another vet, one that would work with you and doesn't make you feel like an idiot. Take the info you recieved from your vet to the new vet. As far as when to schedule, that would be up to your vet. I hate scheduling c-sections, but in this case it's wise.

Calm down, everything is going to be fine. You're lucky that you know what you know and can take care of this. Remember your lil girl needs you now. So, get as much info and education you can gather before the big event.

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Please don't take everyones opinions personally as an attack against you or breeding in general. I think you should be able to receive both sides of an opinion when posting in an open forum.
Accidents can and do happen quite abit, but understand there are very reputable and knowledgable people here who are tired of hearing how it accidently happened and now the female is at risk.
I wish you the best with this and personally would offer any help I can to anyone who is interested. I will say that I am not a breeder who has nearly the experience that alot of others here do, but my door and phone is always open.

Now as far a a secheduled c-section IMO - I recommend getting a second vet to use, because all of the ones near me would wait till she shows signs of needing one first. The risks are there yes, but she might be able to have this pup on her own. Jumping in and doing a c-section isn't the answer hun. You put her at risk unintentionally with an accidental pregnancy now don't put her at more risk jumping the gun. Use this time wisely and research more and get another vet's opinion with your time.
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