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AllDogBoots 06-13-2010 04:12 PM
I just want to offer my condolences. I'm not exactly clear about all that transpired, but at the end of the day you lost a valued member of your family. I am very sorry for your loss.

jp4m2 06-13-2010 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3161808)
What is so upsetting to me about this is that I see it as a breach of simple human decency. When someone is fresh with grief and you can't bring yourself to offer genuine sympathy, at least have the decency to remain silent.
Amen to that.......Sasha, you can request this thread be closed if you would like........It seems to be serving no useful purpose.......I wish you well......

Shasha 06-13-2010 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jp4m2 (Post 3161830)
Amen to that.......Sasha, you can request this thread be closed if you would like........It seems to be serving no useful purpose.......I wish you well......
....pls could you let me know how i can do this... many thanks x

jp4m2 06-13-2010 06:15 PM
You could go to the top of this thread and click on the sticky that says "Puppy Development" made by the Admin.....Open it and click on the Admin's name and a drop down menu with show a selection to choose from...click on "send a private message"......

WinstonMom 06-14-2010 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3161808)
What is so upsetting to me about this is that I see it as a breach of simple human decency. When someone is fresh with grief and you can't bring yourself to offer genuine sympathy, at least have the decency to remain silent.

Agreed 100%.:thumbup::thumbup: Shasha, please accept my sincere sympathy for the loss of Stella and for the loss of your babies.

Marilize 06-14-2010 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3161808)
What is so upsetting to me about this is that I see it as a breach of simple human decency. When someone is fresh with grief and you can't bring yourself to offer genuine sympathy, at least have the decency to remain silent.
I understand completely why you are saying this. There is an unwritten human rule that we offer sympathy in the wake of death. But there is also a human tendency to want to understand why and how something happened. And it is very human to become suspicious when things look a bit shaky.

We are all very sad for Stella. But that doesn't mean that we should just shut up and offer our condolences. If an outrage here will keep that from happening again, great! Then everyone should speak their mind.

If you own and breed animals, you are responsible for those animals and you need to stand up to what happened to them, whether it was your fault or not. And I'm not saying that any of this was her fault! But it's their responsibility and the breeder needs to accept that. If you can't, you shouldn't breed.

honeykisses 06-14-2010 05:14 AM
Sasha, I am so sorry for your loss.

Brooklynn 06-14-2010 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by marilize (Post 3162275)
i understand completely why you are saying this. There is an unwritten human rule that we offer sympathy in the wake of death. But there is also a human tendency to want to understand why and how something happened. And it is very human to become suspicious when things look a bit shaky.

We are all very sad for stella. But that doesn't mean that we should just shut up and offer our condolences. If an outrage here will keep that from happening again, great! Then everyone should speak their mind.

If you own and breed animals, you are responsible for those animals and you need to stand up to what happened to them, whether it was your fault or not. And i'm not saying that any of this was her fault! But it's their responsibility and the breeder needs to accept that. If you can't, you shouldn't breed.
thank you!

Woogie Man 06-14-2010 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Marilize (Post 3162275)
I understand completely why you are saying this. There is an unwritten human rule that we offer sympathy in the wake of death. But there is also a human tendency to want to understand why and how something happened. And it is very human to become suspicious when things look a bit shaky.

We are all very sad for Stella. But that doesn't mean that we should just shut up and offer our condolences. If an outrage here will keep that from happening again, great! Then everyone should speak their mind.

If you own and breed animals, you are responsible for those animals and you need to stand up to what happened to them, whether it was your fault or not. And I'm not saying that any of this was her fault! But it's their responsibility and the breeder needs to accept that. If you can't, you shouldn't breed.
Marlize, I understand what you are saying and would agree in the abstract. This case is different in that what happened to the pups (which I was critical of, too) and what happened to Stella are two wholly separate things. I don't see how anyone could fairly transfer any outrage from one to the other. There is no benefit to anyone, now or in the future, from doing that. I read your earlier post and thought it was fair so I'm a little confused by this post.

I'm not trying to play the 'thought police' here but there is a time and place for everything. There were snide remarks made to Shasha within minutes of Stella's passing. I find this tasteless and shameful. Stella died from the (apparent) sudden onset of a rare condition that was only diagnosed barely a day before her passing. The poor woman didn't have a chance to collect her wits about her with this before Stella was gone. She certainly wasn't deserving of derision at that time.

This is all just how I see it and anyone is free to have their own opinion. I'm not asking that people be overly nice or candy coat things....only to use a little basic decorum.

Brooklynn 06-14-2010 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3162368)
Marlize, I understand what you are saying and would agree in the abstract. This case is different in that what happened to the pups (which I was critical of, too) and what happened to Stella are two wholly separate things. I don't see how anyone could fairly transfer any outrage from one to the other. There is no benefit to anyone, now or in the future, from doing that. I read your earlier post and thought it was fair so I'm a little confused by this post.

I'm not trying to play the 'thought police' here but there is a time and place for everything. There were snide remarks made to Shasha within minutes of Stella's passing. I find this tasteless and shameful. Stella died from the (apparent) sudden onset of a rare condition that was only diagnosed barely a day before her passing. The poor woman didn't have a chance to collect her wits about her with this before Stella was gone. She certainly wasn't deserving of derision at that time.

This is all just how I see it and anyone is free to have their own opinion. I'm not asking that people be overly nice or candy coat things....only to use a little basic decorum.
While I agree with you in most cases "in my opinion" ours differ in this case. While I do have sympathy and am sadden with Stella's passing, there is just something in my gut that says something else and I always go with my gut, can't help it and while I do feel sorry for the owner of Stella I dunno, something just doesn't sit right in my gut and that is the reason for what little remarks I made but I only posted twice or maybe three times throughout this whole thread and read the whole thread...one can fault me for my remarks that's ok I truly don't care because they are my opinions and oh well...I said I was done with it and I am now...and I"m truly sorry and sadden by the passing of a sweet dog.

Vergo 07-13-2010 10:44 AM
Vergo breeder
 
Hi Every one just to let you know pups are doing just great they are starting to lap now have had their vet check and will soon be ready to go putting some photos in my gallery for you sorry i am not so good at this just have not had the time to get in to it but will do i promice thanks to all who have said hallow your dogs are beautiful .:animal-pa:animal-pa

011011 07-13-2010 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by WinstonMom (Post 3161734)
I won't go so far as to say I am disgusted, but I do think that some of the posts were just mean. If Shasha had posted Stella's passing in the memorial section, people would have treated her kindly and with sympathy. Just because Stella recently had pups, does not mean the Shasha does not deserve our sympathy, she just lost a dog that she loved.
:thumbup::thumbup:
I just read this whole thread and I am so sorry for your loss it is hearbreaking.
We live and learn the hard way sometimes. Some things are out of our hands and we cannot do anything
Prayers for you and your heavy heart.
I rarely get on Yt anymore because of posts that are posted when someone comes on for help or assistance and are a novice or very uneducated , not thinking etc.
I usually help through PM and no posts.
The rock throwing usually begins in the first page.

Shasha 07-13-2010 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by vergo (Post 3197979)
hi every one just to let you know pups are doing just great they are starting to lap now have had their vet check and will soon be ready to go putting some photos in my gallery for you sorry i am not so good at this just have not had the time to get in to it but will do i promice thanks to all who have said hallow your dogs are beautiful .:animal-pa:animal-pa
what are you doing putting this on here???this is a thread vera,
go to the right page pls!. X

Lizzie07 07-17-2010 08:45 AM
Sasha, I am so sorry you lost Stella. On top of losing 11 puppies. It's all such a sad story.

YorkieGeorge 07-17-2010 08:59 AM
I am so sorry the the great lost of your Stella and furbabies.


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