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cesar49 07-28-2008 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Thorsmomma (Post 2144627)
Why does everyone think that young people and or people in apartments are not suitable dog owners? I just don't understand. I have found that some breeders have this preconception that people who fall in that category are not fit to own. I find it judgemental...disregarding someone without even knowing them. Just a little rant, not specifically at the OP, but since the subject has been brought up here....

young people can be irresponsible and unrealistic
apartment people have no yards
but there are some mature young people im sure and people in apartments may be able to walk their dogs
it is the breeders choice:animal-pa

MyFairLacy 07-28-2008 10:14 PM

I'm usually not one to agree with rehoming dogs, but it sounds like the buyers did the right thing. How do you know they really weren't allergic? And even if not, they obviously realized a puppy wasn't going to work for them. Yes, puppy buyers need to understand the responsiblity of owning a dog BEFORE they buy, but sometimes once the puppy is actually in the home, it doesn't work out for some reason. They decided pretty quickly (within a week) that it wasn't working out and definitely did the right thing in contacting you to take the puppy back. They probably could have easily resold the puppy and made a profit, gave it away to someone, or dumped it in a shelter somewhere. However, they chose to do the right thing...what would they have gotten out of having a puppy for one week and then having to return it :confused: I think assuming that they are lying and wanting to bash them on the internet seems a little over the top considering they did the best they could for the puppy. I say let it go and put your energy into finding another good home for the puppy.

I'm a little confused on the "young professional, ivy-league type" too :confused: :confused:

Also, those of you who automatically exclude young adults or apartment dwellers may be missing out on some wonderful pet owners. I'm a young adult in vet school with two cats and two yorkies and they are extremely well-taken care of. I put them before myself all the time...believe me, they get whatever they need before I do every time. And apartments...as long as it's a pet-friendly apartment complex, what's wrong with apartments? Yorkies are small dogs and can get plenty of exercise inside. I live in a townhouse and have a very small backyard, but I choose to walk my dogs throughout the day to potty..and we go to friends with big backyards frequently for them to run around. Anyway, I know a breeder has the right to place their puppies with whom they wish, but I don't always agree with automatic exclusions...your puppies are probably missing out on some excellent homes when you do that.

sammiz 07-28-2008 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

I'm usually not one to agree with rehoming dogs, but it sounds like the buyers did the right thing. How do you know they really weren't allergic? And even if not, they obviously realized a puppy wasn't going to work for them. Yes, puppy buyers need to understand the responsiblity of owning a dog BEFORE they buy, but sometimes once the puppy is actually in the home, it doesn't work out for some reason. They decided pretty quickly (within a week) that it wasn't working out and definitely did the right thing in contacting you to take the puppy back. They probably could have easily resold the puppy and made a profit, gave it away to someone, or dumped it in a shelter somewhere. However, they chose to do the right thing...what would they have gotten out of having a puppy for one week and then having to return it I think assuming that they are lying and wanting to bash them on the internet seems a little over the top considering they did the best they could for the puppy. I say let it go and put your energy into finding another good home for the puppy.

I'm a little confused on the "young professional, ivy-league type" too

Also, those of you who automatically exclude young adults or apartment dwellers may be missing out on some wonderful pet owners. I'm a young adult in vet school with two cats and two yorkies and they are extremely well-taken care of. I put them before myself all the time...believe me, they get whatever they need before I do every time. And apartments...as long as it's a pet-friendly apartment complex, what's wrong with apartments? Yorkies are small dogs and can get plenty of exercise inside. I live in a townhouse and have a very small backyard, but I choose to walk my dogs throughout the day to potty..and we go to friends with big backyards frequently for them to run around. Anyway, I know a breeder has the right to place their puppies with whom they wish, but I don't always agree with automatic exclusions...your puppies are probably missing out on some excellent homes when you do that.
:thumbup: :thumbup:

I agree with everything said in this post.

Wylie's Mom 07-29-2008 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 2144831)
I'm a little confused on the "young professional, ivy-league type" too :confused: :confused:

Also, those of you who automatically exclude young adults or apartment dwellers may be missing out on some wonderful pet owners. I'm a young adult in vet school with two cats and two yorkies and they are extremely well-taken care of. I put them before myself all the time...believe me, they get whatever they need before I do every time. And apartments...as long as it's a pet-friendly apartment complex, what's wrong with apartments? Yorkies are small dogs and can get plenty of exercise inside. I live in a townhouse and have a very small backyard, but I choose to walk my dogs throughout the day to potty..and we go to friends with big backyards frequently for them to run around. Anyway, I know a breeder has the right to place their puppies with whom they wish, but I don't always agree with automatic exclusions...your puppies are probably missing out on some excellent homes when you do that.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:I have to add to this - since I was a "young professional and well educated adult" (which, apparently, was looked down upon in this case) I lived in either an apartment or a condo until I was 36 years old - and had pets my ENTIRE adult life. Pets who were/are given the BEST possible lives.

Btw, how many people in NYC have dogs? And, how many of them have yards? Of course it's the breeder's choice, but I would just gently remind folks that GOOD HOMES come in lots of colors, not just ONE. :)

ChantalB 07-29-2008 08:53 AM

Ya I would take the dog back too...the poor little one isn't wanted there...

Good luck

diggy4 07-29-2008 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ChantalB (Post 2145421)
Ya I would take the dog back too...the poor little one isn't wanted there...

Good luck

agreed Id refund NO questions asked.

BlondeYorkieMom 07-29-2008 09:05 AM

I agree the posts above, though I agree it is the breeder's choice!
I just think that people should use their own judgement in every case, people reading skills come in handy!
Thank GOD Cooper's breeder took the time to meet me and make a decision based on ME. I got him as my 18th birthday present to myself! I might not be the typical college student, but my situation allows me to take immaculate care of both my yorkies. When it comes to my boys I never think twice about their care! I've seen older people at the vet that might fall into some breeder's "preferred" categories, refusing care for their pet because of cost/time. Not saying its about money, but age doesn't directly correlate with responsibility level and financial ability. Something some people need to remember. ~How many parents (of appropriate parental age) act negligently and cause harm to their young children? How many houses are in HORRIBLE condition??

cesar49 07-29-2008 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2145410)
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:I have to add to this - since I was a "young professional and well educated adult" (which, apparently, was looked down upon in this case) I lived in either an apartment or a condo until I was 36 years old - and had pets my ENTIRE adult life. Pets who were/are given the BEST possible lives.

Btw, how many people in NYC have dogs? And, how many of them have yards? Of course it's the breeder's choice, but I would just gently remind folks that GOOD HOMES come in lots of colors, not just ONE. :)

you are right:animal-pa
i guess apartment dwellers would be good for yorkies
puppy pad trained:eek:
and walked:aimeeyork
but you may be the exception
the well educated may not be well educated in dog puppy care
i would want to know if they care enough to learn about dogs
keeping a dog alone all day in an apartment is not a great life
unless there are 2 dogs.. then they would not be alone all day:)

Kbsqueff 07-29-2008 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 2144831)

Also, those of you who automatically exclude young adults or apartment dwellers may be missing out on some wonderful pet owners. I'm a young adult in vet school with two cats and two yorkies and they are extremely well-taken care of. I put them before myself all the time...believe me, they get whatever they need before I do every time. And apartments...as long as it's a pet-friendly apartment complex, what's wrong with apartments? Yorkies are small dogs and can get plenty of exercise inside. I live in a townhouse and have a very small backyard, but I choose to walk my dogs throughout the day to potty..and we go to friends with big backyards frequently for them to run around. Anyway, I know a breeder has the right to place their puppies with whom they wish, but I don't always agree with automatic exclusions...your puppies are probably missing out on some excellent homes when you do that.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
I want to say that I am a young adult, graduated from college, happily married, and live in an appartment... And I am a proud mommy of 2 beautiful and happy furgirls:aimeeyork:aimeeyork and a turtle:turtle:

PS: And one day I will be a proud mommy of a biewer girl:D

TokenChin 07-29-2008 02:44 PM

I feel like the original poster has a right to be frustrated. You put so much trust into placing a puppy. To have it come back the next day-week-month must be exasperating.

The positive side of this is that you and that puppy dodged a bullet. Better to find out now and be able to communicate and have the puppy back in your arms than to have them change their minds (for whatever reason) 6 mos from now and just figure they'd place the pup on their own, drop it at a shelter or give it to a rescue.

It was your open door policy that facilitated getting that puppy back!

Please consider that before you alienate clients by posting them on a bad list or in a public forum. I just worry that you could end up with a reputation for embarassing families when things go wrong. If that gets around, and heaven forbid, somebody really and truly does need to rehome one of your babies, it may make them think twice about coming to you and they may just rehome the dog on their own. That would be a shame and probably not what you want since you care so much.

Now, for somebody that just wants to lock in a sale, having a reputation for posting owners with issues is a great idea...it pretty much guarantees they will never come back to you for any kind of support and you will never have to deal with the time, money and effort of rehoming an animal of your breeding.

I guess it's just a matter of the lessor of the two evils and what the breeder's agenda is to begin with. (I mean that in a generic sense and not specifically toward the original poster.)

mscat 07-29-2008 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2145410)
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:I have to add to this - since I was a "young professional and well educated adult" (which, apparently, was looked down upon in this case) I lived in either an apartment or a condo until I was 36 years old - and had pets my ENTIRE adult life. Pets who were/are given the BEST possible lives.

Btw, how many people in NYC have dogs? And, how many of them have yards? Of course it's the breeder's choice, but I would just gently remind folks that GOOD HOMES come in lots of colors, not just ONE. :)

Thanks Willie's MOM :D My Suzi is in a great home with my son and I. God Forbid, we live in a townhouse with a Yorkie pup. I am home all the time, and Suzi is my world:D I have two birds as well ! I am on YT a lot learning new stuff all the time! :aimeeyork
I am sure you will find a forever home for the returned puppy. :aimeeyork

YorkieRose 07-29-2008 04:19 PM

yard
 
I do not require a yard...I breed Yorkies, not German Shepherds. Many of mine have goneto live in NY penthouses and small apartments everywhere..the size of the house means nothing to me..infact they could live quite happily in one room with an owner who loves and cares for all their needs.

TammyJM 07-29-2008 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 2146560)
I do not require a yard...I breed Yorkies, not German Shepherds. Many of mine have goneto live in NY penthouses and small apartments everywhere..the size of the house means nothing to me..infact they could live quite happily in one room with an owner who loves and cares for all their needs.

Too funny that you wrote this...all 3 of mine are curled up next to me on the bed right now. If I were sitting on the couch, they would be there...if I were sitting at the kitchen table, they would laying under the table. Truly, these guys do not care if they live in a mansion or an apartment...they just want to be our constant shadows. :rolleyes:

Tammy

Nikki+2 07-29-2008 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2138526)
I guess I'm wondering what that last sentence was supposed to imply, exactly?

:wavey: LOL, me too.

Nancy1999 07-29-2008 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2138526)
I guess I'm wondering what that last sentence was supposed to imply, exactly?

I don't know what she meant, but I took it to mean that they looked good on paper; meaning that she thought this would be a good home.


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