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07-10-2008, 07:15 AM | #1 |
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| necropsy on teaser ok teaser's necropsy is in and i am just wowed there has been a domino effect on him that caused his death ok the blood draw compramised his immune system well he seemed to have a little parasite called cryptosporidil a cousin to cocci the deadly cousin i did alot of reasearch on this little bug he is a bad dude they say you use to see it in show dog's alot (show crud) it can come from our drinking water on food out of the soil etc i have never heard of it but from what my vet say's it is on the rise they use to see it alot in calf's well it eat's the intestional lining as well and causes a baterical infection especially in puppies there is only one antibiotic that kill's it but the antibotic is deadly and it causes kidney failure and there is no way teaser could have been treated with it all breeder's need to research this bug because it is on the rise as it is very resistant to drug's most of who have the systom's of this bug are puppies or immune surpressed puppies but people can also get it on a lighter note his liver was perfect kidneys perfect heart and lung's perfect we don't really know where he might have gotten this bug it could have even come from the vet's office we just do not know this bug is restaint to chlorine with all the rain we have had it could be in our drinking water so we are having a sample tested the necropsy goes on to explain that because of his size and the amout of blood taken little teaser's system could not fight it that his blood volume was not to standard's he was about 12% off i am thinking he got it from the vet's office as he got sick 2 day's later so i feel if you are going to test please wait until they are older my vet said this bug is on the rise he was just at a seminar on this very subject and they really don't know what they are going to do to stop it or even slow it down BEWARE of the dog, particularly if it's a puppy. It could make you seriously ill. That's the message from Clement Ng and his colleagues at the Milwaukee Health Department, who have found potentially deadly parasites lurking in the faeces of many pet dogs in the Milwaukee area. When Ng and his colleagues examined 300 stool samples from show dog clubs, boarding kennels and veterinary clinics, they found Cryptosporidium in 7.3 per cent of the animals and Giardia in 11.7 per cent. Samples contained adult parasites, eggs, larvae, or highly resistant cysts. Ninety per cent of the dogs testing positive for Cryptosporidium were puppies 30 weeks old or younger, while for Giardia, puppies accounted for 76 per cent of the affected animals. However, the dogs appeared perfectly healthy, and none of them displayed symptoms of infection. "People should be a little more careful with a young dog," Ng says, because they are more likely to defecate in the house. Children are also more likely to play with puppies, he says. Ng's advice to dog owners is to have puppies checked for the two protozoan parasites—vets do not routinely test dogs for their presence, he says. People should wear rubber gloves when clearing up dog dirt, and clean the area scrupulously, particularly if there are toddlers in the house. Children and people with weakened immune systems are especially at risk, Ng warns. C ry p t o s p o r i d i o s i s Health Department of We s t e rn Australia D I S E A S E S What is Cry p t o s p o r i d i o s i s ? C ryptosporidiosis is a disease of the digestive, b i l i a ry or re s p i r a t o ry system of humans caused by a tiny, one celled, ball shaped parasite called Cryptosporidium parvum only visible through a v e ry powerful microscope. C ry p t o s p o r i d i u m is an emerging micro-organism which is of medical and veterinary importance as it can infect humans and over 45 different animal species including cattle, sheep, dogs, cats, birds and fish. This organism has been found in more than 50 countries on six continents. Symptoms of Cry p t o s p o r i d i o s i s The following symptoms can occur between 2-10 days from the time of exposure. b watery to severe diarrh o e a b stomach cramps b n a u s e a b v o m i t i n g b slight fever b weight loss D I S E A S E S C ry p t o s p o r i d i o s i s N o r m a l l y, symptoms last for up to two weeks. It is possible for some people to recover and then suffer the symptoms again. Not everyone who carries the parasite develops the symptoms but, u n f o r t u n a t e l y, in some cases they can pass it on to others. At the other extreme, for individuals with weakened immune systems, cryptosporidiosis can be long lasting and in some cases fatal. There is currently no cure for cryptosporidiosis, although research is continuing. How do you get it? You can get cryptosporidiosis by putting anything in your mouth that has been directly or indirectly contaminated with matter of faecal origin. Examples of potential sources of C ry p t o s p o r i d i u m a r e : b rivers, streams, springs, ponds, lakes, swimming pools, spas and polluted ocean water b uncooked food, fruit and vegetables b clothing, bedding, toilets, taps, toys, nappy changing tables b g a r d e n i n g b pets, farm and stray animals (particularly young animals e.g. calves, lambs, puppies and kittens) b sexual activities Food handlers can contaminate cooked food with C ry p t o s p o r i d i u m if they do not wash their hands after going to the toilet. It is possible to be a carrier and spre a d the disease without being ill. How is it spre a d ? As part of their life cycle, C ry p t o s p o r i d i u m c e l l s multiply within the gut and form oocysts (protective shell like eggs) that pass out of the body in faeces. The oocysts can survive, even in adverse environmental conditions, for a long time (two to six months in a moist environment) and are highly resistant to chemical disinfectants. Who is most likely to get it? Children under two years of age, animal handlers, health care and childcare workers, international travellers, hikers and campers are at greatest risk. However, it is possible for outbreaks of C ryptosporidium infection t o occur in communities, particularly if local drinking water supplies, swimming pools or food products have been contaminated by faeces containing oocysts. What to do if you think you have it 4 See your doctor. 4 Drink extra fluids to prevent dehydration. 4 Take particular care to wash your hands with soap and water before preparing food and after you have been to the toilet. 8 Don’t enter a swimming pool or a spa until you are symptom free for at least two w e e k s . Remember - to stop C ryptosporidium Infection 4Always wash you hands properly after going to the toilet. 4 Always wash your hands before eating and preparing food. 4Supervise children to make sure they wash their hands properly. 8 Don’t drink untreated water. 4 Wash or peel all raw vegetables and fruits before eating. 8 Don’t enter a swimming pool or a spa if you have diarrhoea or if a member of your family has diarrhoea. Wait at least two weeks after symptoms have ceased before going to the pool or the spa. 4 Avoid unnecessary touching of farm animals. 8 Don’t touch faeces of animals and pets without protection. 4Practise safe sex. For travellers visiting remote areas of Australia or overseas: b Always make sure that the drinking water is safe to drink. If you suspect the water to be contaminated or untreated, boil it for one minute before drinking. Filtered water may not be safe. Only filters that remove objects less than 1 micron will remove C ry p t o s p o r i d i u m. b Avoid raw foods washed with tap water that has not been boiled. b Only consume freshly cooked foods and beverages, bottled water, canned food and fresh fruit and vegetables that you can peel. Other Environmental Health Guides on related topics Is the Water in Your Rainwater Tank Safe to Drink? Water Fi l t e r s How Safe is Your Drinking Wa t e r ? C a m p y l o b a c t e r Giardia Infection Further inform a t i o n For further information contact your doctor o r your local government Environmental Health Officer o r Applied Environmental Health Environmental Health Service Health Department of WA PO Box 8172 P E RTH BUSINESS CENTRE WA 6849 Telephone: (08) 9388 4999 Facsimile: (08) 9388 4955 h t t p : / / w w w. p u b l i c . h e a l t h . w a . g o v. a u Produced by Environmental Health Service © Health Department of Western Australia 9/1998 EHS 27 D I S E A S E S Cryptosporidiumkrĭp′tōspərĭd'ēəm, genus of protozoans having at least four species; they are waterborne parasites that cause the disease cryptosporidiosis. One of the species appears to be responsible for most of the illnesses. Symptoms of the disease are vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal cramps, and fever usually lasting one to two weeks. In immunosuppressed individuals, such as people with AIDS, the disease can be fatal. Nitazoxanide is an effective treatment in some immunosuppressed individuals. The usual sources of cryptosporidial contamination of drinking water are human sewage (e.g., sewage system overflows) and runoff carrying animal waste (e.g., from dairy farms). Although coagulation-sedimentation and filtration reduce the levels of cryptosporidium in water supplies, they do not eliminate it. Chlorination has no effect on the organism, which protects itself in the form of an oocyst, a tiny encapsulated egglike structure, when not in the intestine of an animal or human, but ozone disinfection has been more successful. Cryptosporidiosis affected more that 400,000 people and caused over 60 deaths in Milwaukee in 1993 when the parasites contaminated the public water system. Smaller outbreaks have occurred in other states. |
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07-10-2008, 07:48 AM | #2 |
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| Rose, thank you so much for sharing that information. I know Teaser's death has been weighing heavy on your heart. Now we know the answer. I pray your water tests okay. Most likely he got it from the vets office. That is another reason I do not like to take young healthy pups to the vet but I do know that sometimes it is necessary. |
07-10-2008, 09:52 AM | #3 |
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| Rose thank you for posting this We have all been wondering. Poor little guy Worrys me even more about taking such small puppies to the vets Even for tail docking etc..Makes me determined to learn how to do it myself. Hugs
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07-10-2008, 10:24 AM | #4 |
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| well if i had not had him tested so young and small it would not have compromised his immune system and the vet feel's he would still be here she and her associates will not test any other puppies after this only on a must basis |
07-10-2008, 11:10 AM | #5 |
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| Thank you for sharing this with us Rose, I have heard of this since I worked in a vet clinic but had never heard of it in such young puppies. I sure hope everyone else is ok.
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07-10-2008, 01:05 PM | #6 |
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| Thank you Rose for all the info, that is frightening news. That is exactly the reason I don't take my pups to the vet unless absolutely necessary. I'm so sorry you had to go thought this ordeal. I know we have all learened alot through your experience with Teaser and hopefully you have given other breeders food for thought on testing. |
07-10-2008, 01:20 PM | #7 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member | parasites i heard about parasites 2 years ago.. many people have them, and dont know it.. but there is herbal treatments available..i have a product called purasite which flushes out parasites... why take chances when many times there are few symptoms.. or most common is misdiagnosis.. i also use this product on my dogs.. the truth about parasites is shocking
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07-10-2008, 03:12 PM | #8 |
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| from my understanding it would have never attacked his system if his immune systen had not been compromised my vet talked to dr center's today and this is why she told her we just do not recommened testing on young puppies all puppies have this bug it only attack's the weak she said it is alomst impossible to know who has it and who doesnt unless you test your dog's and she told me we would be surprised at how many do that they may get bloody poo and the vet can find no reason and this is usually the reason because it is not widely tested for my vet and dr center's feel he would not have died if i had not tested so young |
07-10-2008, 03:15 PM | #9 | |
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from what i understand they almost all have it the reason we do not know is they are not widely tested for it and yes all puppies left are thriving and doing well and i guess the scary thing is we can have it and not know it Last edited by KYBLUE; 07-10-2008 at 03:16 PM. | |
07-10-2008, 03:31 PM | #10 | |
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It is so sad that Teaser had contracted this terrible bug.....I can certainly understand your heartbreak......Sometimes just knowing "why" can at least offer some kind of understanding......I'm so sorry this happened......
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07-10-2008, 03:59 PM | #11 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member | just google parasites to find the facts.. recent studies have stated how common parasites are in humans.. purasite contains black walnut, diatomaceous earth, fumaric acid, wormwood, clove, ginger, olive leaf, pau de arco, milk thistle, turmeric root. judy maries miracles of health
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07-10-2008, 06:27 PM | #12 |
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| So this is almost the same thing as Giardia right?
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07-10-2008, 06:43 PM | #13 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member | giardia Is your well in a rural area where animals graze? Well water can become contaminated with feces if animal waste seepage contaminates the ground water. This can occur if your well has cracked casings, is poorly constructed, or is too shallow. Tests used to specifically identify Giardia are often expensive, difficult, and usually require hundreds of gallons of water to be pumped through a filter. If you answered “yes” to the above questions, consider generally testing your well for fecal contamination by testing it for the presence of coliforms or E. coli instead of Giardia . Although tests for fecal coliforms or E. coli do not specifically tell you whether Giardia is present, these tests will show whether your well water has been contaminated by fecal matter. These tests are only useful if your well is not routinely disinfected with chlorine, since chlorine kills fecal coliforms and E. coli . If the tests are positive, it is possible that the water may also be contaminated with Giardia or other harmful bacteria and viruses. Contact your county health department, your county cooperative extension service, or a local laboratory to find out who offers water testing in your area. If the fecal coliform test comes back positive, indicating that your well is fecally contaminated, stop drinking the well water and contact your local water authority for instructions on how to disinfect your well.
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07-10-2008, 06:45 PM | #14 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member | Giardia infection can cause a variety of intestinal symptoms, which include Diarrhea Gas or flatulence Greasy stools that tend to float Stomach cramps Upset stomach or nausea. These symptoms may lead to weight loss and dehydration. Some people with giardiasis have no symptoms at all.
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07-10-2008, 06:52 PM | #15 |
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| I know that ammonia is about the only thing that will kill the Giardia germ!
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