I am very new to this website but I learned alot from my first post!!!! DO NOT quit asking questions this is the most informative website I have ever been to. Out of all the negative answers you might get back you might get exactly what you are looking for from one person...just ignore these people...some people on here think they know everything but are very rude about things...I have learned that in this very short time!!!! I learned so much since I have been on here, and all of that out weighs all the negative feedback...be strong and stay!!!

Just want to add my :twocents:

If I was a Breeder that you were buying from, I would Want to be alerted of this thread. So to who ever alerted Kimmie Kudos to you.:thumbup:
It would concern me Even though it is just a Question. Even though you stated that you in no way want to breed Coco.
You did not have to post this question really.
Look at all the threads I just found by
typing in the search Stud Fees 3 Pages .
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sea...archid=2408558

I really am not sure what to think of this thread.
It really raises some flags for me.
Sorry if your ? was a innocent one but it really makes me wonder. hmmmmm

Well I'd like to hear what your red flags are. Because I'm not see'n what you are and I'm sure others would too.

That is quite a bit critical.

I saw no red flags personally...a question was asked and her intent was plain "IT WAS JUST A QUESTION" why turn it into something more? I thought questions were allowed to be asked? I'm probably one of the most critical of critics on this board about breeding responsibly and I saw nothing wrong in her question to led me to believe it was nothing more than just a honest question and a good question at that!
Myzzbrat....like I adivsed before if you have a good repore with your breeder and visa versa don't let it get to ya! :)

# 1 I did not say Red Flag did I:)

for one something that stands out is the Questions asked. Why? they were even thought.
I am not saying you are not entitled to ask I am not saying you were Wrong to ask. But If I was a Breeder (IM NOT) I would Really worry about Placing my Tiny in a home that these questions were asked.

And If you have nothing to hide Why would it upset you that any one
(And no it was not me) Would alert Kimmie?
Maybe they just Pointed the thread to her?
Maybe they were wondering what is up.
If you had nothing to worry about then you should have just let it be.

Why is any question thought or asked? To learn more! Maybe in the future someone new will ask the question and no one is around but her. She will then be able to answer it. That's why they are called questions and that's why we have a brain. I guess she uses her brain to learn more?:p

But it's good to be able to ask questions and get them answered. It's better than being ignorant about certain things. She chooses not to be ignorant on this subject.

daisy mae
 

You did not say "red flags" but you said "raises some flags" in a negative way and everyone knows that insinuates "red flag" because it is a well known saying ...lol. Why act like she got that out of the blue?

To the OP I want to say that although you have said many times that these were only questions, asking these type of details about using a stud like that in an open forum does tend to leave room for assumptions to be made of your exact motives for those type of questions to have been asked in the first place. Yes you are entitled to ask any question you want this is a free country and all, however equally other ppl have the right to ask their questions as well.

I do have to think that I myself as a breeder would definately want someone to inform me of a thread of this type, especially if it was from someone they knew was purchasing/or will be purchasing a puppy from me. As far as I am concerned I feel it is and or was a very responsible thing to do when it comes to letting another breeder/friend/fellow yter become aware of any possible improper breedings with her puppies especially with one so tiny. Whether your question was or is innocent I really don't see anything wrong with other people helping Kimmie become aware of this thread as long as it wasn't done to be hurtful or attack you in anyway. Correct me if I am wrong, but if you were a breeder and I had knowledge of you selling one of your babies to someone who you were not allowing breeding rights too and I saw them asking the same questions as you did: Would you not feel it the proper thing to do and want someone to point the thread out to you?? I know I would feel awfully hurt if I found out a friend saw this same thing and didnt make me aware of it. Especially if later that same person was using my puppy to breed and I could have acted appropriately before it ever came to be a problem.

Now I am not saying in your instance this is or was the case as I do realize you were only asking questions with no intention of breeding, however there are 2 sides to every story and I truely feel that before this thread goes crazy with assumptions that ppl try to see the other view to someone or several people informing kimmie and the possible reasons behind it.

I myself think is commedable that others are looking out for each other in a positive way for our furbabies! Maybe I stand alone on this who knows, but I would want to be informed. I hope you all understand what I am trying to say here.

2 cents
 

My 2 cents...if a person is buying a puppy from me, we agree there will be no breeding...then they go on a forum, post a hypothethical question about stud service, the sale would be cancelled. I would sincerely appreciate the person who brought this to my attention.

If this bitch is old enough...the simple solution is to have her spayed before the sale, I am sure the OP would have no problem since they are not planning on breeding her. If she is not old enough, wait until she is...2 cents.

I would want to be alerted also.

Very well said. Deb:thumbup: :thumbup:

To the ones who think the flags that I stated were negitive.. Nope your reading in to it wrong.
A Red flag to me is a "WOW stop all do not go there"

A Flag is just that. It was stated flag but meant as.. her ?'s Raised ? of my own as to Really why this was asked.
as the OP has her rights to ask I also have my right to ? why..
the only reason I even posted was to let it be known that I did agree with the person who alerted Kimmie.
end of my post here.. I could say more but I am done here.:D

This is my point exactally! Posting even an innocent question such as the OP has done publicly would surely make me uncomfortable. I would cancel the sale immediately! Now what Kimmie does or doesn't do with her puppy in this situation is her business and her business alone!

I agree with you 100%

I never once said the OP was or is dumb. I stated another a side of reasoning..... Now your personally attacking me why??? Because I have a different opinion and view then you do?? This is a public forum and not the place to point fingers. Whom ever it was doesn't matter and whether one of the ppl who went to Kimmie was or wasn't me doesn't give you the right to publicly attack them or me!! You may want to read the rules of YT because publicly attacking another person such as you seem to be hell bent on doing is against the rules! Just an FYI if this public outting or attack towards me or anyone else contiunes I will report it to ADMIN!

This may be a public forum and I totally feel the OP had a right to ask her questions yes, but it doesn't give others a chance to bash individuals for sticking up for the best interest of our puppies....Does it???

:thumbs up :bravo: same here.

I didnt contact Kimmie but I have notified breeders on here before when someone has questionable intentions with their puppy. I would do it again. A breeder has the right to know. They birth the pups raise them and prepare them for their new homes. I dont blame this person at all for going to Kimmie

breeders
 

Breeders appreciate a "heads up"...when there is no problem, then there is no problem...I would perfer to find no problem, then miss one...

Originally Posted by YorkieRose
My 2 cents...if a person is buying a puppy from me, we agree there will be no breeding...then they go on a forum, post a hypothethical question about stud service, the sale would be cancelled. I would sincerely appreciate the person who brought this to my attention.

If this bitch is old enough...the simple solution is to have her spayed before the sale, I am sure the OP would have no problem since they are not planning on breeding her. If she is not old enough, wait until she is...2 cents.

:thumbup: I agree, I would have her spayed before she left.

I think I ever had a 2pd puppy on my hands, and was considering re homing her that would be the first thing I would do. (have her spayed). OMG the risk of someone breeding her is unthinkable. And I am not saying that is what the OP is gonna do. I believe that she was just asking a question.

BTW, is the 2pnd the puppies estimated weight, or well she grow into a bigger adult ????

I think this thread has totally gotten out of hand. I can understand that everyone has the right to ask questions and they should without getting slammed, thats the problem right now with some of the stuff going on YT now, but on the other hand I can understand why someone told the breeder about it. It was in the breeder talk section, and I would be alittle worried if I saw it myself, if I was selling the puppy, but I would spay or neuter the pup before you got it if I was that concerned. The way I read the thread is that no one else had any idea that this happened till you told everyone. So now we have the discussion of why would someone tell. Well I for one didn't tell her cause I am just now seeing this, but I can understand why they did.

Do you have any idea how much work, love, tears goes into breeding. Its not that they pop the puppies out you feed them then you set back and wait to get the money, its alot of work, time and love. I have had all of mine tested for everything that could be tested. I put alot of time and love into my puppies, It cost alot of money to breed and you don't get rich from breeding. Sometimes you lucky if you make anything, I know alot of people believe that due to the prices, but you don't.

You have to remember when this little ones finally get to go to there new homes, they have been with us for 12 or more weeks, and they have become our babies that we love and adore, so yes we want the very best we can get for them, and if we decide that no breeding rights, and we give only limited reg. that doesn't mean that you can't breed them anyway, people would use a different reg. on them, so yes it makes you worry.

All I am saying to everyone that apparently has gotten upset over this thread is... To step back and look at the whole picture. Yes the OP has a right to ask any question they want to with out a hassle. and I didn't see anyone hassling you over the question. As you stated Kimmie loves her puppies and worries, well when someone else sees a thread like this and has the same passion as Kimmie, yes they are going to say something to her. you should understand. If people were more protective of there puppies there wouldn't be puppy mills or byb.

I think you were upset because someone told her and you took it as they didn't trust you. I don't think that was the intent of the person that told her, I am sorry if you felt that way, but look at the whole picture.:(

I think this is very well said. in addition...I dont see how it really matters that someone told her...it was posted on a public forum...chances are she would have seen it anyway and would have responded exactly how she did. I honestly feel that she had a right to know about the thread, and that it is up to her how she wants to handle it from here on out.

If you don't want someone to read your post...it's best to not post it in the first place. there is no sense in getting upset that someone alerted her to the thread. she really had a right to know it was there....and whoever did it was likely not trying to say they didn't trust you, I'm sure they just thought Kimmie might want to know about it and make her own decision on what she thought about it. Kimmie loves her babies...and I'm sure she is glad someone is looking out for her pups....even if there was no need to.

I'm not saying that the question shouldn't be asked...just that Kimmie has a right to know about it. bottom line.

and no, I didn't send the pm.... :D

Pepe_mint.. I had sent kimmie a link to the thread. I'm not mad about someone going to I'M PISSED AT THE FACT that they didnt read the whole thread as kimmie had and as how we talked. If they had infact read it maybe they would have understood it a bit more besides jumping to conclusions and starting drama.

To everyone else: I thank the ones that have answered and not judged me and clearly read and understood what I was indeed asking. For those that have judged and clearly stated their unpleasent replies.. I don't care what you say or what you think of me.

Admin please close this thread.

if u and kimmie have talked then there is no issue at all and no one can be mad...it is really between the 2 of u. I was under the impression people were mad that "someone" told kimmie about it.
Again, it is between u and kimmie what u do and dont do.

breeder
 

Good Luck