I've been using Deter also without any good results. At an upscale pet store where I go once in a great while (yesterday as a matter of fact!

), they had a powder from a company that specializes in all natural stuff. I didn't think of trying it, but when I go back to get the bed (yes, another bed) I ordered, I may look into it.
it is such a disgusting habit. some say it's cause they're missing something in their diet, but I don't know. mine get the best foods and missing link, etc... i don't know could possibly be missing.
omega