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Originally Posted by gidget529  Thought I'd weigh in, for the whole less than a penny it's worth. The first open heart surgeries were tested on dogs by Dr. Blalock and Dr. Vivien Thomas of Johns Hopkins University Hospital. They were performed to try to help children with a congenital disorder called Tetralogy of Fallot. The "heart lung machine" developed to perform this procedure and skillset learned are the foundation of open heart surgery as we know it today. Before this was developed, ppl died of heart disorders bc it was believed operating on the heart itself was almost a religious sacrilege.
That being said, I am grateful to these animals that gave their lives so that others' lives can be saved. I hope they were treated humanely and with dignity.
I think it is not such a black/white topic. Do we have the right to view human lives as more valuable? Ellie May brings up a good point about vet med testing on animals. There we are viewing some animals more valuable than others. Do we have the right to do so? Not sure. Where would we be without it, though? |
I completely understand this because I am not ignorant nor am I naive to the fact that some of the technology today and the way things have progressed is because of experimentation and testing on animals.
This is not all directed to the above statement but to others that have commented previously as well.
That being said I am just surprised at the (in my opinion) casual way some have said that it's all for the good of MY PET.
In my mind there should be NO animal testing - with the technology we have today you can't tell me that there is NO OTHER WAY?!
I am also a little flabbergasted that there seems (imo) to be more sympathy toward the treatment of cows and pigs vs. DOGS?!
I grew up on a farm and to me cattle and pigs were raised solely for their meat and that is the only way some survived back in the day - I think the way they are treated before they are put down is deplorable but I am not going to become a vegan because of that.
Cattle, pigs (with the exception of potbelly pigs) and chickens are raised for their meat and eggs............DOGS are domestic animals that are raised to be a part of a family and I treat mine as such and the thought that someone could have experimented or tested something on them torturing them just breaks my heart in half!!
It is not a casual subject for me and it never will be and I will NOT support a company that does animal testing on DOGS!!!
I honestly think it is all about money and that there are other ways to test products but it would be more expensive so they don't do it!!!
Everything in this world is motivated by money so no one can tell me this isn't about money-P&G is all about MONEY-of course they are they are a HUGE conglomerate and they own the rights to about 1/2 the products in your house-it's about MONEY!!!!
The mistreatment of ANY animal is just not right and to me THAT is black and white. There is no reason a pig couldn't be used instead of a dog-or is that not okay? My mother had open heart surgery and she has a pig valve inside her not a dog valve so......hmmmmm, I just don't know what else to say!?
I wonder if the pig that gave up their valve for my mother was tortured....
If a person was a dog hoarder and they had a bunch of dogs in their house in kennels and laying around because they didn't have enough room to walk around the house, if they had sores on their legs that did not heal this person would be fined and jailed......think about it!