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Originally Posted by Ringo1  I believe it's realistic that my good friend - who is a RVP for a very large pharmaceutical company . . . could take a few less trips to Hawaii on the company dime.
They pay their people VERY WELL and while I know they have scaled back to some degree - their profits are obscene.
On a purely philosophical level, I will never agree that this is just how it has to be. Have we not evolved any higher than what I saw in that video? We might as well be apes living in the jungle.
It's wrong. I don't eat lobster; I don't eat veal; I don't use comestics that are tested on animals and my meat is bought at my local Farmers Market. I don't wear animal fur or leather. Free range chicken is the best I can do. I KNOW that I still benefit from all the horrible ways we treat our animals . . .but I will never say . . . that's ok with me. That's just how it is and look away.
Sometimes wrong is just wrong. It's wrong to torture when it doesn't have to be done that way.
Same goes for our meat processing plants. Some of the people that work in those places are no better than animals. Now I realize that the job probably doesn't attract the best of the best - but still.
There is no good answer; on that I agree. I disagree that nothing can ever, ever be done to make things better. If I felt that way - I would never volunteer at my local soup kitchen. There will always be homeless, right? Why bother? |
It is private company. The alternative is to have govt take over the pharmaceutical companies, cap profits. Elected officials and bureaucrats take junkets, trips to nice vacay spots on the office dime too. Their salaries and especially pensions could be viewed as obscene.
Whether they could do a better job producing safe products without testing inhumanely on animals....well, the debate is still there.
The means of testing is not a money issue in my opinion. All the money in the world won't change whether or not testing is necessary.
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Originally Posted by Ellie May I think this has shifted from no animal testing being done, period, to only animal testing if it is as humane as possible. I don't think any animal lover would argue the latter. But I'm not going to be the one boycotting drug companies to get them to change because they are a little hard to live without for some people.. Food products are a bit different. You can almost always choose a different brand. |
