[harleyyorkie]

yes, there's a potty pad in the crate. I tried it with no pad, an old towel, a nice fleece bed,smaller crate, etc. Still he peed& pooped.
I am happy to report a little progess now. I put some "jingle" bells on his collar and put his crate right next to the bed. Whenever I heard him jingle, I woke up. Once I caught him in the act(3:40 am) and verbally scolded him and took him outside to finish. The next night @ 3 am, I heard him jingle and out we went. Sucess with both pee & poo, and a dry crate until 6 am when he woke up again. Last night when I heard him jingle several times, he was just changing positions or had an itch. I didn't take him out and his crate stayed clean from the time he went to bed (11pm until 6 am when we got up). So, maybe we're getting through to him finally. He isn't holding it while we're outside as long as he used to either.