Ok I am thinking Lolita must be a modified and Laddy I hope a silky but he is nine months old and his coat still doesnt reach the floor so am little concerned that maybe it is the hard silk.
I will post some pictures of them maybe someone can tell. Lolita is the second one her coat is really thick but never tangles and it reaches the floor but her little bottom has a little curl. Laddy is the first one.