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08-28-2009, 06:37 PM | #1 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA
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| Looking for Female Yorkie Pup - Atlanta or a Day's Driving Distance Hello All, I live in suburban Atlanta and am looking for a female Yorkie Pup. This Yorkie would be for a pet - not for for showing, although I want to leave the possibility open of this dog having a litter or two of pups with my current Yorkie, who is a very sweet and adorable 7 year old, 6 lb male. I am certainly willing to drive a 1 day's drive from NW Metro Atlanta to pick up my new baby (basically, Georgia, and parts of Alabama, N.C., S.C., Tenn or N. Florida). However, I was really hoping to get a healthy, good-natured and cute pet-level little girl somewhere in the general ballpark of $1,000, and I would want to see the environment in which the dog was reared (not even REMOTELY interested in anything that even has the faintest whiff of 'puppy mill' attached - been there, done that, and got a VERY expensive and vet-intensive teeshirt with a Cocker Spaniel...who I don't think was entirely healthy during the entire 13 years of her life). I also must insist upon AKC papers at the time of purchase - none of this "I lost them but will send them to you in the mail". (have that teeshirt too ). About me: I am a lifetime dog owner and two-time Yorkie owner - this would be my third Yorkie. I work for a large corporation, but work at home so this dog would not be left alone all day - she would have both me and my existing Yorkie to keep her company. I own my own home with plenty of room, and I've been taking my dogs to the same vet for the 14 years I've lived in Atlanta. I am also patient and willing to wait for the right dog - I do not need to have this dog tomorrow, but I would like to get a little pal for my existing dog within the next 6 months or so. And certainly, sooner would be better than later. If any of the breeders here think they might have a dog who would fit the bill, please contact me in this thread (preferable for first contact since I am wary of puppy farmer lurkers and figure anyone who would post publically would be known to the reputable breeders here ) and provide contact information. Thanks very much for your consideration and any assistance you might be able to provide. PKTrekGirl and her Little Buddy Rygel |
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08-29-2009, 04:00 AM | #2 |
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08-30-2009, 04:49 AM | #3 |
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| Okay - so you want a female pup that you want to breed to your 6 pound, 7 year old male yorkie and have this pup with full breeding rights at the beginning, before you know if she is breed worthy and only want to pay only a 1,000?? You probably will only be able to find her from a pet home of people producing more pets. I know for this area it is normally 1500 for a pup. Most of the people around here that have quality will not sell a pup with full breeding rights as a pup or without co-ownership. Just thought I would give you a heads up. If you do find your pup, First of be sure your male has been tested and has the qualities to be bred. He is getting up there in years too, at 7 years old. By the time this pup is ready to be bred - add 2 years to your male, so he will be 9 years old. And you will need to be sure the pup, when grown also has the qualities to be bred. There are A Lot of people that breed here in Georgia, but only a few that actually have any quality. So just be very careful!! Learn about the breed standard so you know what you are doing. There is a show coming up the weekend of the Sept. 19th at the Expo Center. You might want to go to the show to see some nice yorkies and meet some people. Best of luck in your search. |
08-30-2009, 05:45 PM | #4 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA
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| ^ You know, I really do not appreciate your tone in the slightest. First of all, I said that I wanted to pay in the GENERAL BALLPARK of $1,000. Which was meant to imply that I understand that I cannot hope to find a good quality, healthy dog for $500...but that I do not want a $2,500+ show dog either since I have no intention of showing. $1,000 seemed like a nice round number to me, but was not intended to be construed as an absolute maximum. Thus the 'in the ballpark' qualification. Second of all, if I am paying $1,500 for a puppy, I have no intention of co-owning ANYTHING. I am a responsible dog owner (my vet would be happy to verify this to any breeder I eventually work with) and have lived with dogs all 50 years of my life, owning two very happy and exceedingly spoiled Yorkies in the process, but other dogs as well - all of whom lived to ripe old ages under my protection and care. I grew up with dogs, and with the exception of when I was living in a college dorm, have always had dogs. My dogs are my FAMILY - not my business. And to imply that I might have anything but their highest well-being in mind is insulting. IF I ever decided to have a litter of pups (which is by no means assured in any case - I just want to keep my options open) with my current yorkie or another male yorkie I might purchase, then I should have the RIGHT to do that under the supervision and guidance of my personal vet or an experienced breeder of MY choosing. I was CRYSTAL clear about the fact that I am not interested in becoming a breeder here. I just want the option of having a litter of pups - mostly likely to be kept by me as pets. Now, if that is such a frakkin' crime, then clearly I have come to the wrong place. Sorry...I just thought I might find a nice friendly breeder here who finds more joy in helping people find their new family members than they do in protecting their own pocketbooks from imagined threats from good, honest, dog-loving regular people who couldn't possibly care LESS about going into the breeding business and moving onto their 'turf' or whatever it is some of you guys seem so concerned about with your bazillion clause contracts. So sorry...I will NOT sign any contract full of legal mumbo-jumbo detailing all the ways you can come and snatch my baby away from me (ways, not at all incidentally, that have nothing to do with direct dog health and welfare); a contract which is so thick it makes the process of adopting a HUMAN baby look like a snap by comparison. Good grief. Did it ever occur to some of you guys that there are people like me, who love Yorkies, are responsible long-time dog owners, and who just want a nice little pet? I did not come here looking for drama, nor did I come here to buy a good dog cheap and backdoor you out of your breeder business or whatever. I make a very good living, thank you very much. I don't need yours. I just wanted to buy a good, healthy dog for a reasonable price and, once I have provided sufficient references from my vet that I am a responsible doggie mom, be able to do with my own dog what I WANT, under the supervision of said vet and other individuals of my own choosing. No adoptive mom of a HUMAN baby would sign away a bazillion rights to their adoptive child to a total stranger whose contracts are clearly designed to selfishly protect a business - not an individual deeply loved child. And frankly, I won't either. All a breeder has to know from me is that I have experience with Yorkies, have a long-time vet who would give me a good reference, have a lovely large home with sufficient space for a dog, have no animal complaints attached to my name or address, have plenty of time and love to give a young dog, and have a check that won't bounce. Outside of that, it's frankly none of their business. The ironic thing is that I am actually looking for a breeder who I can continually go to for kindly advice and an ongoing relationship. The sort of relationship I had with my current dog's breeder (who is sadly out of the yorkie business now, or I wouldn't even be here at all). But some of the posts I've read here and still worse, the draconian contracts I've read online, which detail a bazillion ways you can come and rip my beloved FAMILY MEMBER from my arms for your own selfish business purposes? All they do is completely turn me off. I am in no hurry here. And I will eventually find a breeder (if I haven't already - have a nice possibility out-of-state) who does not assume everyone who wants to buy a dog from them is in fact plotting the demise of their little business fiefdom, but who instead has not lost sight of the fact that some of us out here JUST WANT A HAPPY, HEALTHY PET TO LOVE AND TAKE INTO THEIR FAMILY. THE END. Hopefully, I will be successful in finding a breeder who operates from a position of good-will and (after appropriate references) trust toward their customers - not the paranoid distrust which is so heavily and obviously embedded between the lines of one 'adoption contract' I read (in between gasps of shock) this afternoon. Honestly...I don't even get why the owner of one 'contract' I read this afternoon is even in the business at all. If you have THAT MUCH distrust for every single potential customer who hits your website, before you even KNOW THEM....Jeez...you need to find another frakkin' business, my friend. Because all a customer like me sees in a legal-eeze work of 'art' like that is a cynical, paranoid individual who is more concerned with themselves than with their dogs...and who frankly, I wouldn't buy a second-hand blender from, let alone a dog. I mean, if every potential customer is viewed as THAT much of a potential threat before they even START, how can you sell to anyone at all and still sleep at night? There has to be pretty much no joy at all in such a person. And that is not the sort of person I want raising my pup for the first 3 - 4 months of his life. I welcome the opportunity to work with any breeder who demonstrates a desire to work with me in a friendly, eager to HELP rather than reproach, open and honest way, in good faith. But I am THE CUSTOMER. I have some rights too, because I have the cash. And I won't be bullied by a breeder into handing them $1,200 or whatever for a dog which I will never really own, or who can be snatched out of my arms at any moment by some paranoid individual who see enemies of his/her business lurking in every customer who comes knocking. Not in this lifetime. Anyway, no point in going to the dog show if the above is the mentality of the sort of people I will meet there. I couldn't possibly care less about the show itself. My only interest is in finding a nice congenial breeder who does not assume I am a threat before I even step off the bus. If they will never sell me the dog, but only 'rent' it to me under a bazillon clause contract which is all about protecting their own selfish interests and not the dog herself....then thanks, but no thanks. I'll go out of state. Last edited by pktrekgirl; 08-30-2009 at 05:47 PM. |
08-30-2009, 06:06 PM | #5 |
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| WELCOME TO YORKIETALK Welcome to my fellow Georgian. You have come to the right place to find your Yorkie girl. I feel certain that you will be able to find the perfect Yorkie girl -- there are many reputable NON show breeders here at YT that produce very nice healthy pups. |
08-30-2009, 07:14 PM | #6 |
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| I am so sorry that you took my post the wrong way. I was just giving you a heads up to let you know, so you could be more informed and not get scammed or buy a pup that was not of any good. There are many people here in Ga that breed and do not know what they are doing; no testing, do not know the standard, or know the standard and breed substandard yorkies anyways, are unethical, etc... or they have so many dogs they are breeding they house them over at realatives and neighbors and then switch out the dogs when they have a litter ready to sell, not to mention probably some mills also out there. I in no way was trying to be rude. And it is a fact that there are many that if you want to breed will have a co-ownership contract, because they are trying to protect their hard work and reputation, as well as the breed standard. They just want to make sure that a novice is making good decisions. Too many people have gotten a pup from good lines in the past and ruined them. Just stating the facts. So now many with good lines are protecting them. I figured you might not know this and so I thought you should know, so you would be better informed. I am so sorry you had a bad day or ran into others that were rude. I think if you look back at my post I was just stating the facts and in no way tried to be harsh or mean. I was just going by your post. I do not even have any pups to sell. I do not breed often and usually have a waiting list, so please do not think that I was speaking of myself. I have been on YT for a long time and people know that I am pretty soft in my messages and mean no harm. Again I am so sorry you took what I said the wrong way. I was kind of taken surprise by your response. I guess I have learned not to help anyone again. Last edited by topknot; 08-30-2009 at 07:17 PM. |
08-30-2009, 08:28 PM | #7 | |
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That being said, since she is a breeder in Georgia she does have insight to many breeders within that state. What she has stated is absolutely true in any state when dealing with reputable breeders. Show and breeding quality are one in the same....the cost for the said dog would be exactly the same. Contracts are there to protect the puppy. Most breeders and I say most put them in place now days. Saying that someone is attempting to protect their pocket book. I will say that those that will sell you a breeding female without knowing you and I don't mean meeting you one or two times have no regard for their pups and are only out for their pocket book. I do find it very sad that you came on as a new member and absolutely ripped apart a well respected member of YT.
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08-31-2009, 07:04 AM | #9 | |
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I don't think any ill will was meant by Topknot's post...I think she was just trying to be helpful. To the OP. Unfortunately, what you want and what you will find in reality are two different things. In all likelyhood, you are just what you claim to be--a responsbile, loving owner who would never dream of putting your furbutts in harms way. I fully believe that. However, reality of the situation is, you will be hard pressed to find a reputable breeder with a female of a quality that should be bred who, regardless of the price you pay, is going to be willing to sell you one with full registration, no questions asked and no contract. Sorry, that is just not a realistic expectation and I think that Topknot was just trying to make you aware of that fact so that you will know what obstacles you have to overcome in your search. Also, I think that she was trying to explain to you why that is the case with many breeders so that you would understand instead of making inaccurate, unfair assumptions and accusations, as you proceeded to do anyway. To state that breeders act that way because of their fear of competition or because they want to protect their pocket books is both laughable and insulting. It's because they have a genuine concern for what happens to the pups they produce after they are placed with the new owners. (And call me crazy, but I always thought that kind of dedication and concern from a breeder was a good thing!) If you think that kind of concern is unwarranted, then I urge you to take a look around at the ill bred Yorkies being mass produced these days--it is that kind of environment that reputable owners are trying to take precautions against. I believe that if you will take the time to actually looks, you have been given some very good advice here. Conformation events are great places to begin your search for a new little one and to introduce yourself to reputable breeders. It would be a great place to try to find a breeding mentor, as you mentioned in your previous post. Or, you could continue to hope for a female, no questions asked, in which case there are millers and BYBers a dime a dozen willing to give you whatever you want if you just fork over the money. (Although, chances are good, that in going that road, you will never actually get what you really "want.") | |
08-31-2009, 07:55 AM | #10 |
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09-01-2009, 03:49 AM | #11 |
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09-06-2009, 07:31 PM | #12 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: cincinnati, ohio
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| 2 Female Yorkies I have 2 female yorkies born june 20,09. They are vet checked, 2 sets of shots, 2 wormings, tails and dew claws removed. Parents from Florida and mom has champion and grand champion in her bloodline. Mom is 5lbs dad is 6lbs. I think they will be between 4-6 lbs. when grown. They are home raised and handled and loved since day one. They already go on piddle pads eat dry food, drink a lot and are very social loving little girls. Feel free to call me at 513-353-0117 or my cell 513-316-1131 anytime and I will get back to you asap. I can send pictures if you want me to.They are 700.00 eachThey are AKC |
09-07-2009, 06:01 PM | #13 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Talking Rock, Georgia, usa
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| there is yorkie puppies for sale in the pickens progress newspaper for 400.00, just do a search for pickens progress, thats about 50 miles from you. |
09-07-2009, 06:06 PM | #14 |
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| Not from a newspaper classifieds......$400.00 mmmmmm
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09-07-2009, 06:09 PM | #15 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Talking Rock, Georgia, usa
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| I found my yorkie from a newspaper ad, paid 450 for him, he came from a very repbutable breeder in north Ga, so it's possible to find great dogs like that in my neck of the woods. |
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