Handlers

[fannie]

Wow... that's very steep! I don't understand why they charge so much more for the dog winning!

[dray]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Wow! The fees and stipulations on this contract are pretty steep and stringent. I've never seen one like this one.....Kind of outrages.

I was surprised to see this too , I thought my handler tacked on some fees but this one is very high. I would expect him not to ever loose!!! And I guess when you send this handler a dog it better be a very good one!!! And hopefully you have a very good sponsor.

[tegamom1]

That was crazy!! Thank goodness, you can find good handlers that are not quite so proud of themselves. lol

[dray]

Years ago I remember paying 25 to 50 dollars for a good handler and never any extra charges but now, the handlers have made a real business out of it and they get paid very well for their work. Its good to know how to show your own dogs.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by dray

Years ago I remember paying 25 to 50 dollars for a good handler and never any extra charges but now, the handlers have made a real business out of it and they get paid very well for their work. Its good to know how to show your own dogs.

There are still some of those handlers out there....and they are good....They do it because they love the sport and not because they're attempting to milk the client......But, let's be realistic/ professional handling is a business....that's why we send our dogs out with a well known one.....

I only used a handler with my first Champion and that was because I was told, early on....if you got an exceptional dog and you are a newbie....you could ruin the dog.....I traveled with the handler and learned from him....when he felt I was ready I went in the ring.

[Sugar's Mom]

....if you got an exceptional dog and you are a newbie....you could ruin the dog,

How so? I don't understand.

[YorkieRose]

IMO..most dogs can not be ruined beyond repair...LOL Incorrect handling can develop bad showing habits..a good handler can undo almost anything the owner does (not abuse) I am a living testiment..my handler used to tell me my Yorkies were spoiled and she would have her work cut out for her, but in a week they were doing exactly what her wanted.
I had one I didn't put a lead on until 9 months and it was the week before a Specialty, she got him trained in days..he won too! LOL

[Ladyhawk]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

....if you got an exceptional dog and you are a newbie....you could ruin the dog,

How so? I don't understand.

I can answer this since I about ruined Connor! You can spoil them to death so that they are naughty in the ring. They get all the attention that they want so why should they try to please you? Also a friend had a handler be a bit too rough with her special and now she can't get him to put his tail up in the ring. I'm sure there's more ways to blow it, training and handling must be done properly to insure that the dog is motivated and enjoys showing.

[Mardelin]

Everyone has put the nail on the head. Learning the ins and outs of handling and pesenting a dog is an art....it takes time to learn and each dog it's own individual personality....knowing how to bring out the best in them (what makes them tick to get them to respond) as well as timing is a learned process.

For instance my first show dog....even though my handler told me I was ready to go in the ring...my nerves would travel down the lead...it was more of a job to me, wanting both of us to be perfect....it took me forever to get 4 points on her...I had to learn how relax and have fun in the ring, while presenting the dog to it's best advantage....Then then the trick of learning how to anticipate your dog's every move and correct it without anyone seeing the correction.

[topknot]

Everyone has put the nail on the head. Learning the ins and outs of handling and pesenting a dog is an art....it takes time to learn and each dog it's own individual personality....knowing how to bring out the best in them (what makes them tick to get them to respond) as well as timing is a learned process. - Mardelin.

I think you are so right. Handling is an art and takes time to develop the art. Just like a master - one that has devoted the time and energy practice and working with each dog they handle to perfection.

Since I work fulltime I had to hire a handler. Plus I still am rusty in the ring. So I hired a very good handler. They were great! Very kind to my girl and knew how to handle her just right. My girl could be a handful, if you would let her. My handler knew just how far to push and how to show her that she loved her. It is about balance too. She finished with my handler very quickly.

You really have to get to know your handlers and listen carefully to others when decided on which handler to hire. You will know which one is a perfect match for you and your dog - by asking, listening, and watching.
T.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by topknot

I think you are so right. Handling is an art and takes time to develop the art. Just like a master - one that has devoted the time and energy practice and working with each dog they handle to perfection.

Since I work fulltime I had to hire a handler. Plus I still am rusty in the ring. So I hired a very good handler. They were great! Very kind to my girl and knew how to handle her just right. My girl could be a handful, if you would let her. My handler knew just how far to push and how to show her that she loved her. It is about balance too. She finished with my handler very quickly.

You really have to get to know your handlers and listen carefully to others when decided on which handler to hire. You will know which one is a perfect match for you and your dog - by asking, listening, and watching.
T.

You're handler is a very dear friend of mine and she's great. I've never used her as a handler, but I didn't hesitate to send her one for training.....he was beyond me and encouragable........My Denny or better known as Double D for Demon Denny....was able to finish with 3 Majors....I can't thank her enough, after all this boy had to be put in a death grip to get a topknot on him.

[cj125]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

You're handler is a very dear friend of mine and she's great. I've never used her as a handler, but I didn't hesitate to send her one for training.....he was beyond me and encouragable........My Denny or better known as Double D for Demon Denny....was able to finish with 3 Majors....I can't thank her enough, after all this boy had to be put in a death grip to get a topknot on him.

LOL - I have one like that!

[nansyorkies]

I show my own dogs,1 bitch and 1 male at this time- and alternate with a male for a friend of mine. I have seen how some so called professional handlers handle the dogs- I call it abuse. I just wish i had had my cameria with me- i would have sent the owners some pictures of how their babies were being treated. I have 5 yorkies- and i take all of them with me when i go to the shows.

[mypreciouspups]

this is all very interesting...I will keep track of this post...thanks all for great information...pooh's mum

[Tx2Stepn]

Make sure to go with a handler with enough moral compass not to show a crippled Yorkie. I recently saw a "Pro" handler showing not 1, not 2, but 3 yorkies that could barely walk in the ring. I'm not talking about misbehavior but bad stiffles. It just makes me sick!