opinions ~ pedigree vs. pedigree

[AMD]

I have a choice to get a male puppy from two litters. I wanted to get some imput about the two pedigrees.

This little guy is 8 weeks this week.

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[AMD]

These two are 6 weeks. Pictures from 4weeks old.

The pedigree is of their dam. Both litters have the same sire, Durrer's Renior.

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[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by AMD

These two are 6 weeks. Pictures from 4weeks old.

The pedigree is of their dam. Both litters have the same sire, Durrer's Renior.

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Alyssa,

Both pedigrees are nice...now it's just a wait see on the puppies.

[Susanbee51]

I love the face on the little 8 week old.

[fannie]

I agree that both pedigrees are equally as nice. Just watch those puppies and see how they turn out.

[crystalsmom]

Both very nice pedigrees and this little male will of course have lots of changes but your chances for nice quality with this strong a pedigree are good.

[babychanel]

oh my that 8 week puppy is beautiful.!His face is just to die for.Good luck!

[Yorkiekids]

Both pedigrees look good. I love the face on the eight week old.

[Sukoshi's Mom]

I don't know anything about pedigrees, but I agree with everyone else that the 8-week old looks adorable. Give the youngers ones more time though, and they could be even cuter, with a better stance, etc. Good luck choosing!

[AMD]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Alyssa,

Both pedigrees are nice...now it's just a wait see on the puppies.

I have a problem. . .she's liking how he's turning out, but doesn't want to wait until 6 months before I commit..I don't get it (???)

"I really like the boy right now he is really leaning towards a show boy. He topline is level. I like his rear. He won't be a big boy probably 5lb or so. He is going to have very nice color, I believe a nice dark steel blue. He can go at 12 weeks. But I would not guarantee him as a show boy. He should do well in Jr handling. He is a nice puppy."

"No I won't hold him until he's 6months old. I have another breeder that would like to take him and see how he turns out. I told her that I had told you about him first and if you don't take him she can. I think he will make a nice dog for you if you want him but thats up to you. Let me know"
Kathy

Do I take him at 12 weeks, even though he won't be a for sure show pup?

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by AMD

I have a problem. . .she's liking how he's turning out, but doesn't want to wait until 6 months before I commit..I don't get it (???)

"I really like the boy right now he is really leaning towards a show boy. He topline is level. I like his rear. He won't be a big boy probably 5lb or so. He is going to have very nice color, I believe a nice dark steel blue. He can go at 12 weeks. But I would not guarantee him as a show boy. He should do well in Jr handling. He is a nice puppy."

"No I won't hold him until he's 6months old. I have another breeder that would like to take him and see how he turns out. I told her that I had told you about him first and if you don't take him she can. I think he will make a nice dog for you if you want him but thats up to you. Let me know"
Kathy

Do I take him at 12 weeks, even though he won't be a for sure show pup?

It depends on what you want to do....

I can only give advise...no show dog should be obtained until the age of 6, 7 months or later. Remember this is too big of an investment if it doesn't turn out. What are this breeder's guarantees/contract like? Will she guarantee him as a show prospect. At 8 weeks of age, it's too early to tell what will happen....Nice rears, toplines can go off. Bite can go off. "the I told the other breeder that I told you about him first and if you don't take him she can" may or may not be a bit of a hard pressure being put on you.

I know that I wouldn't think about letting a dog go out as a show dog until I have them run them through. It's my reputation on the line, so I'm gonna make sure that who is ever going to purchase a show dog purchases the best. So, anything I wouldn't keep in my program, I wouldn't place as a show pup Just my opinion......

But, the final decision is yours....

[mypreciouspups]

mardelin, hope I spelled that correct.

Great answer to this girl..also impressed at your saying about your reputation. And not wanting to sell a show puppy you would not keep yourself..I like that, I am impressed..and why the hurry to put pressure on a person when the pup is 8 weeks old, gee a pet dog does not leave until at least 12 or more weeks old...but nice pedigree...who is the breeder..


pooh's mum

[AMD]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

It depends on what you want to do....

I can only give advise...no show dog should be obtained until the age of 6, 7 months or later. Remember this is too big of an investment if it doesn't turn out. What are this breeder's guarantees/contract like? Will she guarantee him as a show prospect. At 8 weeks of age, it's too early to tell what will happen....Nice rears, toplines can go off. Bite can go off. "the I told the other breeder that I told you about him first and if you don't take him she can" may or may not be a bit of a hard pressure being put on you.

I know that I wouldn't think about letting a dog go out as a show dog until I have them run them through. It's my reputation on the line, so I'm gonna make sure that who is ever going to purchase a show dog purchases the best. So, anything I wouldn't keep in my program, I wouldn't place as a show pup Just my opinion......

But, the final decision is yours....

I do want him as a show pup. But, since I'm going into Jr, I don't know if I should take him because I can still go into competition if he doesn't turn out, or get a different pup. If he doesn't turn out as a show dog, I can still do Jr Showmanship with him because there is no judging on the dog.

She said he could go at 12 weeks, but she wouldN'T guarentee him as a show dog. She stated to me that she had a male that she was going to be showing, so she wasn't keeping this little guy.

I don't know if ther is truely another person interested. She said "breeder" which would seem like she wouldn't sell a puppy to. Who knows...

I don't know..I'm really torn about this. I'm getting stuck between having a good dog, but yet it's Jr, so I could take him, and even if he doesn't turn out, I could still show him.

I can't find a reason why she would be pressuring me to make a decition. If I decide I don't want him after all, it's not like she won't be able to sell him. I wonder if she's not going to let me wait until he's 6 months old to decide, because he's going into Jr Showmanship anyway..

I asked her to send me a copy of her contract as it would be for the sale of this puppy. I'll post it when she send it.

Mary, thank you!!

[AMD]

Originally Posted by mypreciouspups

mardelin, hope I spelled that correct.

Great answer to this girl..also impressed at your saying about your reputation. And not wanting to sell a show puppy you would not keep yourself..I like that, I am impressed..and why the hurry to put pressure on a person when the pup is 8 weeks old, gee a pet dog does not leave until at least 12 or more weeks old...but nice pedigree...who is the breeder..


pooh's mum

Kathy Murphy is the breeder.

[crystalsmom]

Mary,always has great advise