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dray · 12-13-2006, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ButterflyYorkie

Yes!

Very valuable.
A friend who first taught me how to do that called the treat "cookie". It kind of stuck with me so now I say the word and hold the treat near my mouth with fingers closed around it. When they look at me and stand still on all fours I give it. After a few days, I can do it without the treat everytime. Where do you hold your hand Debbie?

Edited...ha ha what I meant to say is "am I doing that correctly?" LOL!

Sometimes your mouth may be a bit high for a toy dog, you might want to try around your waist high. I have seen some dogs look up really high like your mouth and it tends to through their top lines off because they have tipped their heads back so far. Try for the waist especially for puppies.
This is what works for me.... There is always exceptions to every dog.

feminvstr · 12-13-2006, 05:33 PM

Debbie your right, at the show a few months ago animal planet was giving away a treat carrier that hooks onto your pocket or belt hoop. I use this in conformation class with the pups, fill it in front of them, latch it on, they know where the treats are and tend to always look up for the next treat...

ButterflyYorkie · 12-14-2006, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dray

Sometimes your mouth may be a bit high for a toy dog, you might want to try around your waist high. I have seen some dogs look up really high like your mouth and it tends to through their top lines off because they have tipped their heads back so far. Try for the waist especially for puppies.
This is what works for me.... There is always exceptions to every dog.

Thanks! I wish I had someone to film me when I show so I could see little things that I may not be aware of otherwise.

Mardelin · 12-14-2006, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ButterflyYorkie

Thanks! I wish I had someone to film me when I show so I could see little things that I may not be aware of otherwise.

It would help. There's one thing I do, that was suggested by George Aliston, As your dog grows and matures, take pictures of your dog when they are groomed, so that you can make adjustments on their grooming and presentation.

ButterflyYorkie · 12-14-2006, 04:16 AM

I have two small leather bait bags that attach to belt loop or pocket with a gold pin. Haven't used them much lately but will be dragging those back out. I guess they're perfect being they're attached at the waist. Sure wish I had them with me once when we all ran out of bait and the show was sold out. Had to buy a hot dog at last minute...put small pieces in my pocket and it made a greasy spot on my good pants.

I had an issue with bait one weekend...had everything ready...felt confident and good...checked the board and our judge (ukc) had posted "no bait". Uggg.

ButterflyYorkie · 12-14-2006, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin

It would help. There's one thing I do, that was suggested by George Aliston, As your dog grows and matures, take pictures of your dog when they are groomed, so that you can make adjustments on their grooming and presentation.

Yes, that's a great suggestion. I do tend to take alot of personal pics for me, myself to go back and look at later. Last show I was at I had a topknot pulled too tight and made my dog's eyes appear more round than they were. Could have kicked myself. I didn't notice it in person but it showed in the pics.

Mardelin · 12-14-2006, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ButterflyYorkie

I have two small leather bait bags that attach to belt loop or pocket with a gold pin. Haven't used them much lately but will be dragging those back out. I guess they're perfect being they're attached at the waist. Sure wish I had them with me once when we all ran out of bait and the show was sold out. Had to buy a hot dog at last minute...put small pieces in my pocket and it made a greasy spot on my good pants.

I had an issue with bait one weekend...had everything ready...felt confident and good...checked the board and our judge (ukc) had posted "no bait". Uggg.

Yes, you do have some judges that have little quirks, no bait (word commands for back up work great for those times. \

The judges I hate are the ones that have issues with hairspray......boy the product adjustments you have to make to get that topknot to stay up.

Saleswman · 12-14-2006, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by topknot

Shirley - Does this mean you have found your baby finally? If so - do tell! I hope congratulations are in order.

T.

but, you all will be the first to know.....LOL

Shirley

topknot · 12-15-2006, 01:43 PM

I know what you mean about taking pictures. I was at a show and my hubby took a picture of me in the ring -when a was waiting for the last one to finish their turn on the table - and your have your yorkie in their stance position on the floor for the judge to finish with that one and take that final look at the line up - well I was holding too much hair in my grip (while holding the tail) and made the back look weird. I know not to do that again. From now on we take pictures at home and practice table stances and floor stances as well as free sanding poses to see if everything is right. The digital cameras are great since you are not wasting any film.

I also use a mirror in my groom room and practice on the table with them too. This way I can also check using the mirror.

With treats - you do have to know the dog. Most of mine do great with the liver treats. But one - no way! She would be going crazy looking for more treats and checking the floor and jumping too - if I had shown her a treat while in the ring. So no treats for her - hand signals and voice commands work best for her.

I hate it when people leave treats (crumbs) all over the runway in the rings!! What a way to get your dog off focus. I practice too at home with treats here and there on our practice runway - so they learn to leave the treats on the ground. But boy, is this hard to train.

Shirley - good luck!! I hope you have a baby soon. Must be real soon if you are buying stuff!! Hummmmm?
T.

Mardelin · 12-15-2006, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by topknot

I know what you mean about taking pictures. I was at a show and my hubby took a picture of me in the ring -when a was waiting for the last one to finish their turn on the table - and your have your yorkie in their stance position on the floor for the judge to finish with that one and take that final look at the line up - well I was holding too much hair in my grip (while holding the tail) and made the back look weird. I know not to do that again. From now on we take pictures at home and practice table stances and floor stances as well as free sanding poses to see if everything is right. The digital cameras are great since you are not wasting any film.

I also use a mirror in my groom room and practice on the table with them too. This way I can also check using the mirror.

With treats - you do have to know the dog. Most of mine do great with the liver treats. But one - no way! She would be going crazy looking for more treats and checking the floor and jumping too - if I had shown her a treat while in the ring. So no treats for her - hand signals and voice commands work best for her.

I hate it when people leave treats (crumbs) all over the runway in the rings!! What a way to get your dog off focus. I practice too at home with treats here and there on our practice runway - so they learn to leave the treats on the ground. But boy, is this hard to train.

Shirley - good luck!! I hope you have a baby soon. Must be real soon if you are buying stuff!! Hummmmm?
T.

When I started going to dog shows and before I started handling, I use to wonder why you'd see handlers in the ring sweating.......well once in the ring I figured it out......it's not as easy as it looks.....presenting a dog to it's best advantabe is not easy, especially when you're trying to be a backdrop, knowing your dog well enough so that you can sense what they're going to do before they do it and make the correction without anyone seeing it.....
I think the toughest thing for me was to learn keep my hands still and off the dog and let the dog show itself

Saleswman · 12-16-2006, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by topknot

I know what you mean about taking pictures. I was at a show and my hubby took a picture of me in the ring -when a was waiting for the last one to finish their turn on the table - and your have your yorkie in their stance position on the floor for the judge to finish with that one and take that final look at the line up - well I was holding too much hair in my grip (while holding the tail) and made the back look weird. I know not to do that again. From now on we take pictures at home and practice table stances and floor stances as well as free sanding poses to see if everything is right. The digital cameras are great since you are not wasting any film.

I also use a mirror in my groom room and practice on the table with them too. This way I can also check using the mirror.

With treats - you do have to know the dog. Most of mine do great with the liver treats. But one - no way! She would be going crazy looking for more treats and checking the floor and jumping too - if I had shown her a treat while in the ring. So no treats for her - hand signals and voice commands work best for her.

I hate it when people leave treats (crumbs) all over the runway in the rings!! What a way to get your dog off focus. I practice too at home with treats here and there on our practice runway - so they learn to leave the treats on the ground. But boy, is this hard to train.

Shirley - good luck!! I hope you have a baby soon. Must be real soon if you are buying stuff!! Hummmmm?
T.

Hummmmmmm Tina.... I bet you know what is under your Christmas tree too......LOL, LOL

We shall see...soon........

Saleswman · 12-17-2006, 07:25 AM

Looking for a conformation class........no such luck......any ideas?????

Mardelin · 12-17-2006, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Saleswman

Looking for a conformation class........no such luck......any ideas?????

I'm sure you contacted your local kennel club. Is there a handler in your area that would be open to private lessons?

feminvstr · 12-17-2006, 08:12 AM

Shirley
I would bet the places below would be able to refer - good luck!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

David M Wilson
8293 Franklin Road
MURFREESBORO , TN, USA
k-9service@comcast.net
Phone: 615-349-5433
I am a certified trainer and working K-9 handler. I provide private training for your dog at your home in an environment where they are comfortable thus more ready to learn. I use only positive motivation training methods. I also offer specialized training such as search and rescue, HRD, forensic and other working disciplines. Call today for more information and prices.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Gabor Szilasi

NASHVILLE (METRO) , TN, USA
gabor@k9imports.com
http://www.k9imports.com/Training.htm
Phone: 615-714-4737
I am a UN certified trainer since 1976 (only one in area) , trainer in both K9 work (the instructor for the K9 trainers, handlers and dogs). One of the 1st in home trainers in Nashville, I not only have the certfication and the experience to train your dogs, I have the hands on experience with my own dogs and results to show for it. The training is conducted at your business, in your home and in your neighborhood; your dog's most familiar environment and where most of the problems occur. Private classes offer flexibility with your time scheduling and private one on one attention.

feminvstr · 12-25-2006, 06:37 PM

Shirley I just received this email maybe they can help you with conformation!
all the best!

From:suedicero@comcast.net

To:kkingpdx@comcast.net
Subject:conformation classes in Nashville
Date:Monday, December 25, 2006 3:38:00 PM

Kimberly,

Saw that someone was looking for conformation classes (we have web-stats). Contact Nashville Dog Training club for handler classes, if they are looking to handle the dog themselves. If they are looking for a handler, there is one located in Hendersonville at Doggie Daze Grooming. Very experienced in grooming for show and handling multiple breeds.

Doggie Daze
660 E Main St
Hendersonville, TN 37075View Map
615-264-2854
Hope this helps!

Sue DiCero and Gabor Szilasi

Alpha K9 Dog Training www.k9imports.com

615-714-4737

12-13-2006, 05:33 PM	#17
feminvstr Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,398	Debbie your right, at the show a few months ago animal planet was giving away a treat carrier that hooks onto your pocket or belt hoop. I use this in conformation class with the pups, fill it in front of them, latch it on, they know where the treats are and tend to always look up for the next treat... __________________ Kimberly

12-15-2006, 01:43 PM	#24
topknot YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,053	I know what you mean about taking pictures. I was at a show and my hubby took a picture of me in the ring -when a was waiting for the last one to finish their turn on the table - and your have your yorkie in their stance position on the floor for the judge to finish with that one and take that final look at the line up - well I was holding too much hair in my grip (while holding the tail) and made the back look weird. I know not to do that again. From now on we take pictures at home and practice table stances and floor stances as well as free sanding poses to see if everything is right. The digital cameras are great since you are not wasting any film. I also use a mirror in my groom room and practice on the table with them too. This way I can also check using the mirror. With treats - you do have to know the dog. Most of mine do great with the liver treats. But one - no way! She would be going crazy looking for more treats and checking the floor and jumping too - if I had shown her a treat while in the ring. So no treats for her - hand signals and voice commands work best for her. I hate it when people leave treats (crumbs) all over the runway in the rings!! What a way to get your dog off focus. I practice too at home with treats here and there on our practice runway - so they learn to leave the treats on the ground. But boy, is this hard to train. Shirley - good luck!! I hope you have a baby soon. Must be real soon if you are buying stuff!! Hummmmm? T. __________________

12-17-2006, 07:25 AM	#27
Saleswman Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,588	I tried the local AKC..., and another question.... Looking for a conformation class........no such luck......any ideas?????

12-17-2006, 08:12 AM	#29
feminvstr Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,398	Shirley I would bet the places below would be able to refer - good luck! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- David M Wilson 8293 Franklin Road MURFREESBORO , TN, USA k-9service@comcast.net Phone: 615-349-5433 I am a certified trainer and working K-9 handler. I provide private training for your dog at your home in an environment where they are comfortable thus more ready to learn. I use only positive motivation training methods. I also offer specialized training such as search and rescue, HRD, forensic and other working disciplines. Call today for more information and prices. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gabor Szilasi NASHVILLE (METRO) , TN, USA gabor@k9imports.com http://www.k9imports.com/Training.htm Phone: 615-714-4737 I am a UN certified trainer since 1976 (only one in area) , trainer in both K9 work (the instructor for the K9 trainers, handlers and dogs). One of the 1st in home trainers in Nashville, I not only have the certfication and the experience to train your dogs, I have the hands on experience with my own dogs and results to show for it. The training is conducted at your business, in your home and in your neighborhood; your dog's most familiar environment and where most of the problems occur. Private classes offer flexibility with your time scheduling and private one on one attention. __________________ Kimberly

12-25-2006, 06:37 PM	#30
feminvstr Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,398	Shirley I just received this email maybe they can help you with conformation! all the best! From:suedicero@comcast.net To:kkingpdx@comcast.net Subject:conformation classes in Nashville Date:Monday, December 25, 2006 3:38:00 PM Kimberly, Saw that someone was looking for conformation classes (we have web-stats). Contact Nashville Dog Training club for handler classes, if they are looking to handle the dog themselves. If they are looking for a handler, there is one located in Hendersonville at Doggie Daze Grooming. Very experienced in grooming for show and handling multiple breeds. Doggie Daze 660 E Main St Hendersonville, TN 37075View Map 615-264-2854 Hope this helps! Sue DiCero and Gabor Szilasi Alpha K9 Dog Training www.k9imports.com 615-714-4737 __________________ Kimberly

12-14-2006, 04:16 AM	#20
ButterflyYorkie YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NC Posts: 742	I have two small leather bait bags that attach to belt loop or pocket with a gold pin. Haven't used them much lately but will be dragging those back out. I guess they're perfect being they're attached at the waist. Sure wish I had them with me once when we all ran out of bait and the show was sold out. Had to buy a hot dog at last minute...put small pieces in my pocket and it made a greasy spot on my good pants. I had an issue with bait one weekend...had everything ready...felt confident and good...checked the board and our judge (ukc) had posted "no bait". Uggg.