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fannie · 11-14-2006, 08:29 PM

I'm posting this here because I figure that you all know much more than I do about coats and I'm trying to learn. So, can you help me figure this coat out? It's not super thick, especially around her legs and face. And her ears are already tan/gold and the rest of her head and face are turning as well. The first picture is her at 8 weeks old. The rest are of her now at 14 weeks.

Ladyhawk · 11-15-2006, 02:57 AM

Coat looks like my Remi's. I'd say you have a silk coat there, could be slightly modified towards the hard side. If he's (or she's) starting to come in gold already you should have a nice rich adult coat color.

fannie · 11-15-2006, 05:53 AM

Ok, so I guess I need to understand the differences in silk coats. What you've said Tammy, is what I've been thinking about these pups. What is the difference between a hard silk and a regular silk? And for showing, which is preferred?

YorkieRose · 11-15-2006, 01:01 PM

Her coat looks silk and her eye flash is green also...I would restrain from cutting her ear furnishings so far back..it makes her ears look too severe. Just cut a third of the tip and let the rest grown and drape down.

Ladyhawk · 11-15-2006, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fannie

Ok, so I guess I need to understand the differences in silk coats. What you've said Tammy, is what I've been thinking about these pups. What is the difference between a hard silk and a regular silk? And for showing, which is preferred?

Cookie Rogan explains the modifications in the silk coat and the grooming requirements really well on her website. It's Jon-An's Yorkies, she's at members.cox.net/jrogan/. She has alot of good info on there from showing to breeding to grooming. Give it a look see! A true silk is preferred for showing but you'd be surprised what can be done with grooming.

fannie · 11-15-2006, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

Cookie Rogan explains the modifications in the silk coat and the grooming requirements really well on her website. It's Jon-An's Yorkies, she's at members.cox.net/jrogan/. She has alot of good info on there from showing to breeding to grooming. Give it a look see! A true silk is preferred for showing but you'd be surprised what can be done with grooming.

Thank you, I will definitely check it out!

fannie · 11-15-2006, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Her coat looks silk and her eye flash is green also...I would restrain from cutting her ear furnishings so far back..it makes her ears look too severe. Just cut a third of the tip and let the rest grown and drape down.

Yes, I normally just trim the top 1/3. However, she had a little trouble with her ears going up so I shaved them completely. Even so, they are still up and down. Her sister is the same way.

JiggityJig · 11-16-2006, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

Cookie Rogan explains the modifications in the silk coat and the grooming requirements really well on her website. It's Jon-An's Yorkies, she's at members.cox.net/jrogan/. She has alot of good info on there from showing to breeding to grooming. )

I appreciate all her (very specific) grooming info, but didn't see where she described what a "modified" silk was?

Also, I was confused by this:

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The next kind of coat is the Cottony coat. Usually this
is a thin, breaking coat.

Thin?! I thought cotton coats were usually very thick??

She then goes on to describe a "wooly" coat, and that sounds like what my impression of a cotton coat has been.

fannie · 11-16-2006, 06:20 AM

I also got confused reading that.

sandy025 · 02-21-2007, 07:51 PM

I think I can understand what she meant by cottony coat which is thin and breaks easily.
My youngest has cottony coat. Although he is a huge ball of fur, his coat breaks so easily and not silky at all.
Cottony and coarse. I had a hard time maintaining long coat for him

JuzMe · 02-22-2007, 07:15 AM

She looks like a slow growing silk.
I visited your webpage and noticed you say you have show quality??
I notice a lot of breeders that have never shown are offering show quality pups? What gives with this?
How can you offer show quality when you have never shown etc?
I would be very leary of doing that because of all the lawsuits you are seeing these days about misrepresentations of dogs being sold etc. it kinda constitues on the side of fraudulent claims.

Juzme

YorkieRose · 02-22-2007, 07:56 AM

If breeders offer AKC show pontentials, they are wise to actually get in the ring. Ther eis more to a show pups then what it looks like, that is not even the first thing I look for.....BUT if they are selling at a pet price and the buyer is willing to gamble, then I don't freak too much...remember there is a BIG different in a show potential and show quality...and I would ask for my money back if I did not get what I agreeded to buy.

PS...her legs remind me of a red legs Yorkie.

Mardelin · 02-22-2007, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

If breeders offer AKC show pontentials, they are wise to actually get in the ring. Ther eis more to a show pups then what it looks like, that is not even the first thing I look for.....BUT if they are selling at a pet price and the buyer is willing to gamble, then I don't freak too much...remember there is a BIG different in a show potential and show quality...and I would ask for my money back if I did not get what I agreeded to buy.

PS...her legs remind me of a red legs Yorkie.

Pat,

I agree with you, breeders that offer AKC show potentials or show quality, should be and the ring and finished a Champions

Saleswman · 02-25-2007, 01:46 PM

Was there a concrete answer as to what type of coat is the best? And what is the difference.? I know the green eye thing.....I think....but, then if you have the green eyes, then there can be differences in silk too right?????

What is the difference if the eyes are green.....modified, hard, soft??? this is where I get confused.....

Also, lets throw color into the equation.....color breaking on the head.....I think Kim or Pat may have sent me something a while back that was helpful....but I cannot remember where I put it...LOL....

Any help is appreciated...

Saleswman · 02-25-2007, 01:47 PM

Do you state in your sales agreement if the puppy is "show quality" or show potential?....and where is the difference...

I told you I am a sponge....

11-15-2006, 02:57 AM	#2
Ladyhawk YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,423	Coat looks like my Remi's. I'd say you have a silk coat there, could be slightly modified towards the hard side. If he's (or she's) starting to come in gold already you should have a nice rich adult coat color. __________________ Tami ladyhawkyorkies.com

11-15-2006, 05:53 AM	#3
fannie Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,456	Ok, so I guess I need to understand the differences in silk coats. What you've said Tammy, is what I've been thinking about these pups. What is the difference between a hard silk and a regular silk? And for showing, which is preferred? __________________ Steph, Mama to 6 skin babies and beautiful yorkies!www.sweetyorkies.com

11-15-2006, 01:01 PM	#4
YorkieRose YT 4000 Club Member Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 7,207	coat Her coat looks silk and her eye flash is green also...I would restrain from cutting her ear furnishings so far back..it makes her ears look too severe. Just cut a third of the tip and let the rest grown and drape down. __________________ Pat, Kate, Becca and Pinkkee Prim

11-16-2006, 06:20 AM	#9
fannie Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,456	I also got confused reading that. __________________ Steph, Mama to 6 skin babies and beautiful yorkies!www.sweetyorkies.com

02-22-2007, 07:56 AM	#12
YorkieRose YT 4000 Club Member Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 7,207	quality If breeders offer AKC show pontentials, they are wise to actually get in the ring. Ther eis more to a show pups then what it looks like, that is not even the first thing I look for.....BUT if they are selling at a pet price and the buyer is willing to gamble, then I don't freak too much...remember there is a BIG different in a show potential and show quality...and I would ask for my money back if I did not get what I agreeded to buy. PS...her legs remind me of a red legs Yorkie. __________________ Pat, Kate, Becca and Pinkkee Prim

02-21-2007, 07:51 PM	#10
sandy025 YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 343	I think I can understand what she meant by cottony coat which is thin and breaks easily. My youngest has cottony coat. Although he is a huge ball of fur, his coat breaks so easily and not silky at all. Cottony and coarse. I had a hard time maintaining long coat for him

02-22-2007, 07:15 AM	#11
JuzMe Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: OH Posts: 20	She looks like a slow growing silk. I visited your webpage and noticed you say you have show quality?? I notice a lot of breeders that have never shown are offering show quality pups? What gives with this? How can you offer show quality when you have never shown etc? I would be very leary of doing that because of all the lawsuits you are seeing these days about misrepresentations of dogs being sold etc. it kinda constitues on the side of fraudulent claims. Juzme

02-25-2007, 01:46 PM	#14
Saleswman Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,588	Yes...I am confused... Was there a concrete answer as to what type of coat is the best? And what is the difference.? I know the green eye thing.....I think....but, then if you have the green eyes, then there can be differences in silk too right????? What is the difference if the eyes are green.....modified, hard, soft??? this is where I get confused..... Also, lets throw color into the equation.....color breaking on the head.....I think Kim or Pat may have sent me something a while back that was helpful....but I cannot remember where I put it...LOL.... Any help is appreciated... Last edited by Saleswman; 02-25-2007 at 01:49 PM.

02-25-2007, 01:47 PM	#15
Saleswman Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,588	Another thing.... Do you state in your sales agreement if the puppy is "show quality" or show potential?....and where is the difference... I told you I am a sponge....