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Old 03-05-2017, 11:45 PM   #1
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Hi everyone,

Just wanted to ask, since I've been planning on showing one of my yorkies this coming summer, is the altered class considered as competitive as the regular classes?

My plan is basically to get my feet wet in competing in dog shows with the altered class and see whether or not I like it, and if I do like it I may in the future consider acquiring a show dog so I can do it as a hobby. No one in town knows much about the altered class. I'm just a little bit concerned about the reaction I might get from people but at the same time I'm thinking nobody is gonna give me too hard of a time because obviously the dog isn't being used for breeding. And I have been told by a number of dog show people that my dog Maezie has a number of good traits, the breeder mentioned that she has the look for showing, I've been told that she has a show coat, etc. So I'm feeling a little bit hopeful that I won't stick out too badly. She's maybe a touch on the small side at 5.3-5.5 lbs (her weight fluctuates depending on the time of day I weigh her) but she did totally outgrow the 3-3.5 lbs she was charting throughout most of her puppy year. She's a year and a half old. I've been attending a conformation training class that has been put on by the local kennel club. And that has been great and I've been learning lots and little tips and tricks about how to show off my dogs best traits, etc. I'm completely a novice when it comes to dog shows and competing but I really feel like I've been learning a ton.

Just to show you what I'm working with, here is a link to a youtube video showing me and Maezie at the conformation class:

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Also, besides my question about the competitiveness of the altered class, if anyone has any general tips or advice about competing that you want to mention to me, that'd be much appreciated. Thanks!
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Your little girl looks nice. Hopefully you will have lots of fun showing her. I am not familiar with the Altered Class in Canada so hopefully someone from there that shows will be able to help you. Best of luck to you.
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How very exciting for you!! Maezie is so beautiful!

Now that I've been growing out Scottie's hair, people have also asked whether I'd want to show Scottie in the altered class; he's 5.5 lbs to 5.7 lbs. I don't think I have the time to put into that, but I do think it'd be such a fun experience. Good for you for going to the conformation training classes. Very happy and excited for you!!
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Your little girl looks nice. Hopefully you will have lots of fun showing her. I am not familiar with the Altered Class in Canada so hopefully someone from there that shows will be able to help you. Best of luck to you.
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How very exciting for you!! Maezie is so beautiful!

Now that I've been growing out Scottie's hair, people have also asked whether I'd want to show Scottie in the altered class; he's 5.5 lbs to 5.7 lbs. I don't think I have the time to put into that, but I do think it'd be such a fun experience. Good for you for going to the conformation training classes. Very happy and excited for you!!
Thanks. And you know I think I can totally see people asking you about showing Scottie. He has a beautiful coat. And his gold/tan color is on the darker side, but at the same time not too dark like I've seen on some other yorkies. I'm pretty sure that that is what is supposed to be in the show ring. And he looks quite leggy too. I've heard that a number of breeders and exhibitors like that. I can only assume that some judges like that as well. Maybe they tend to move better. I'm not exactly sure what the reasoning of deviating from the square boxy look shown in the diagrams is. Anyways, I don't mean to critique Scottie's look too much. He's for sure very beautiful. I've just been trying to understand the breed and develop an eye for dogs as well. There's a lot to learn about yorkies, their conformation, what look does well in the show ring and what doesn't do well, etc. Learning about the breed can sometimes be, at least for me, a bit confusing cause people differ on certain things about what they look for in a show dog. Anyhow, the point I was making is that Scottie has a very beautiful look. He's gorgeous!
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Thanks. And you know I think I can totally see people asking you about showing Scottie. He has a beautiful coat. And his gold/tan color is on the darker side, but at the same time not too dark like I've seen on some other yorkies. I'm pretty sure that that is what is supposed to be in the show ring. And he looks quite leggy too. I've heard that a number of breeders and exhibitors like that. I can only assume that some judges like that as well. Maybe they tend to move better. I'm not exactly sure what the reasoning of deviating from the square boxy look shown in the diagrams is. Anyways, I don't mean to critique Scottie's look too much. He's for sure very beautiful. I've just been trying to understand the breed and develop an eye for dogs as well. There's a lot to learn about yorkies, their conformation, what look does well in the show ring and what doesn't do well, etc. Learning about the breed can sometimes be, at least for me, a bit confusing cause people differ on certain things about what they look for in a show dog. Anyhow, the point I was making is that Scottie has a very beautiful look. He's gorgeous!
Thank you - you're too too kind!

I am sooo in love with Scottie's colours and his look in terms of his hair and his height. As weird as it sounds, I think his legs are so beautiful. My breeder would have sold him as a show dog had I been a breeder.

I've read that the ideal proportions is for the length between the neck and the tail to be equal to the height of the body, which is what Scottie has. A few years ago during my Yorkie research phase, I came across a well-written, detailed document on what competitions look for in a Yorkie. It was a really good read. I tried to find it but couldn't. If I come across it again, I'll message you later on. Thank you again kindly for your lovely compliments!
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You're right. The diagrams showing proportionality say that height and length of the back are to be equal. I suspect though the eyes can play tricks with larger sized yorkies. My big boy Théo has been called leggy by many people even though my measurements show him as being bang on proportionate in that aspect. Somehow the legs seem to stand out and give an appearance of being really leggy despite things being equal. Maybe the same thing with the eyes being drawn to the legs that people notice on Théo is similar to Scottie. Cause other people have called him leggy too, right? I hope I'm not the only one who's said that. Lol

I'll attach a bunch of diagrams showing correct conformation for yorkies. I hope they turn out ok. I've used yorkietalk and the search button to help me out so much with understanding yorkies. I'm sure someone will really like to see these diagrams. It's my understanding that this is what breeders look for in a show dog.
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Very cool diagrams!! Thanks so much for sharing. I always love reading up on this kind of stuff and seeing how much two compare.

Though, I know for a fact that Casie is far out from the correct conformation. Her body is much longer than her height and her hind legs are also slightly longer than her front legs.

Selecting and breeding top show dogs is such an art. I admire my breeder so much in their talent.
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So I did get an answer to my question. I had to ask around quite a bit cause not too many people are familiar with the altered class. I guess I'll share with everyone here.

The members of my local kennel club who knew told me that the competitiveness of it depends on the breed and also the show. Some breeds at certain dog shows will have people come out and compete with their pets. And it's all about having a good time and they just have a ball and lots of fun. And then the flip side of it is that with other breeds and other dog shows it can be quite competitive. People will show dogs who may be retired from breeding and are neutered, but are top knotch dogs and probably already have their championship or grand championship from the regular class. So I guess the answer is it depends.

Either way I'm looking forward to it and I do my first show the beginning of June. It should be fun!
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