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Old 05-23-2008, 05:00 PM   #151
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Thank you so much for your compliments!!

Yes I do both, I start oiling when they´re just 3 months old and put in the first wraps with about half an year, depends on the coat, the girl in the second and third pic was totally wrapped when she was 5 months old, cause she has very much heavy silk coat, but this is very early for wrapping. I bath them every two weeks and oil them after bathing when they´re still wet, so that every single hair gets protection while blowing. Then I wrap. I redo the wraps on head all three days and rewrap completely once a week. For wrapping I use the Ice on Ice Conditioner by CC in combination with wrapping oil (at the moment shea butter oil). At the end I put a wrapping jacket on them and some socks at the hind quarters, when they decide to have a little scratch:-) Here is a pic of my girl in wraps:

I have been told NOT to wrap a puppy before they are about 1 yr old. Or maybe when the coat is touching the floor.......this is different that how you do your yorkies......and your coats are so very nice.....wonder if I should reconsider..

Anyone have any comment on when to start wrapping. I am doing light oil after baths every week......

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Old 05-24-2008, 01:58 AM   #152
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It is the same here, some tell you not to wrap before 7 months, some not before 12 months, I think you cannot tell a date or age, it depends on every single dog and coat. I started with Any at 6 months, but just at the muzzle ant tail and then added some more wraps every week, she was totally wrapped with 9 months, but she has very fine silk which needs more time to grow. Ari got her first wraps on head with just 4 1/2 months and I totally wrapped her with 5, cause she has much heavy silk, fast growing like her daddy has. I think it is the right time, when you feel it is more work, to oil and comb than to put all in wraps. If you start it is a good trick to put the wraps in at evening just before bedtime. At the next morning most of the dogs do not remember that there is something new, sounds crazy, but I had less problems with accepting wraps this way, the same with the little shoes at the hind quarters.

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Yes they are a re-mating of Any and Rio, cause I also think that this seems to be a perfect match, Ari turns out so beautiful! Here is the first pic where they were just 2 days old (right is the male, middle and left the females)

@bjh: Any is out of Multi Ch. Oyakalelo Du Gue De L´Adour(France) he is a son of Starstruck Itallian Stallion (his daddy is Tyava´s Billy Bad to the Bone, a Dr. Detroit son) and Parkside´s Private Collection. Her mother was Jr.Ch. Pharao´s Mary Poppins, she is a daughter of Bodyguard of Padawis(his daddy was Camparis Jackpot, mother Camparis Solitaire, so this goes back to Nik Nak line) and Pharao´s Creation of Love (she goes back to some French and German lines). So Any has very much American blood in her lines.
Ari is out of Any and Durrer´s Exclusive Priority Aka Rio, a multi Ch. male living in Italy. His father was Shakespeare´s Michael Simon and mother was Durrer´s Showcase.
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Old 05-24-2008, 02:50 AM   #153
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Simone - you have all beautiful babies.
I too have to see how their coat is before wrapping. You can ruin a coat in one night if not the right type of coat. Great silky coats - easy to wrap and not t worry too much. I too wrap them at night. I usually wit though till their coat is touching the floor to wrap, since just in oil has worked best for me. But you are right it all depends on the dog and even the owner. Booties help for those that scratch and also the wrapping jacket. I notice that the jacket keeps them all in place, but you must check and rewrap them every night if they wear the jacket!

Hmmm... I have those lines in my babies - mostly Durrer, but also Camparis, Tyava (now), Du Gue De L´Adour. Of course with my Gi - she is Tsa-La-Gi, with a little Parkside toward the back. But I find them to be all very good lines and what I like. Different ones have these different lines and different combination to a certain degree.

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Ok, here come some pics of my girls, first two show my Ch. bitch Sweet Magic´s Always On My Mind with 3 years of age, the other two our youngster Ari, daughter of Any and Ch. Durrer´s Exclusive Priority (first with 5 months, second with 12 months of age). Ari is very promising and is starting off her show career, she´s on her way to Ger. Jr. Ch of our Club and of VDH and just got the Cz Club Jr Ch with 11 months, we are very proud on her as Any´s first offspring! Hope you enjoy the pictures!

Thanks for sharing the pictures, your girls are beautiful!
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Thank you so much for your compliment on my babies!

Yes I think there are several good lines both in Any and now also in Ari with this Durrer input. But this can also be difficult, Ari is a very good dog, I only have few points which I would love to change a bit, that are like changing colour faster, so it will be very difficult to find the right male for her, she has for me a perfect coat, but I have to be careful to find a line, which has similar coat, but not more, otherwise I have the danger to get maybe cottony, I´m just keeping my eyes open right now for a male, although I will not breed her till 2,5 to 3 years of age *lol*. But I think I will look out for one of the Durrer or Tyava line, Camparis will get too dark of wooly with her, same I think with Parkside´s, so we will see.

Why do you redo the wraps every evening when they wear a jacket? I just redo the wraps on body once a week and my dogs wear the jackets all over the day and night. I only redo the wraps on head more often, cause they can become a bit loose because of playing with the other dogs. What kind of jackets do you use? You need those which do not mat the hair, best is satin or a similar elastic material and all wrap except the head and tail wraps have to be inside, including the ones on the for-and hindquarters and on chest. I have no good pic of a dog in a jacket, only this one while eating *lol*, but I think you can get an idea of how the jackets look like. Please do not look at the trousers my girl wears at the pic, she was in heat when we took the foto
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Thank you so much for your compliment on my babies!

Yes I think there are several good lines both in Any and now also in Ari with this Durrer input. But this can also be difficult, Ari is a very good dog, I only have few points which I would love to change a bit, that are like changing colour faster, so it will be very difficult to find the right male for her, she has for me a perfect coat, but I have to be careful to find a line, which has similar coat, but not more, otherwise I have the danger to get maybe cottony, I´m just keeping my eyes open right now for a male, although I will not breed her till 2,5 to 3 years of age *lol*. But I think I will look out for one of the Durrer or Tyava line, Camparis will get too dark of wooly with her, same I think with Parkside´s, so we will see.

Why do you redo the wraps every evening when they wear a jacket? I just redo the wraps on body once a week and my dogs wear the jackets all over the day and night. I only redo the wraps on head more often, cause they can become a bit loose because of playing with the other dogs. What kind of jackets do you use? You need those which do not mat the hair, best is satin or a similar elastic material and all wrap except the head and tail wraps have to be inside, including the ones on the for-and hindquarters and on chest. I have no good pic of a dog in a jacket, only this one while eating *lol*, but I think you can get an idea of how the jackets look like. Please do not look at the trousers my girl wears at the pic, she was in heat when we took the foto
Your jacket looks like mine. It is stretchy. I check and change them nightly because they have a tendency to mat under it (top of back) - since I have one baby that likes to roll over on his back and rub. I have another one (girl) that likes to rub up against my slate fireplace. Ugh! But it is better to manage than living them without a jacket. At least they cannot get ot the wraps.
I agree with you about the lines and watching coat testure. Tsa-La-Gi is very, very silky. Durrer's is great too! I like Chandler's coat (Tyava) very nice and silky too. Got to love the Camparis' faces!
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Your jacket looks like mine. It is stretchy. I check and change them nightly because they have a tendency to mat under it (top of back) - since I have one baby that likes to roll over on his back and rub. I have another one (girl) that likes to rub up against my slate fireplace. Ugh! But it is better to manage than living them without a jacket. At least they cannot get ot the wraps.
I agree with you about the lines and watching coat testure. Tsa-La-Gi is very, very silky. Durrer's is great too! I like Chandler's coat (Tyava) very nice and silky too. Got to love the Camparis' faces!
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Where can I get one of these jackets? Do you make them yourself?
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Where can I get one of these jackets? Do you make them yourself?
I am making some more jackets this next week and will sell some extras.
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