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Brooklynn · 01-14-2008, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Yelena

What does one have to do with the other?
Neither is right.

No, neither is right you'd be correct...however, if I had to choose to dye a dog or have a dog with a bad rear movement, bad topline, health issues, take a BIG GUESS which I'd choose??? To some, color is important and in fact seems to be more important than how the dog is put together and whether or not it's got health issues soooo I believe it does have something to do with the other! If a show breeder believes all the dog needs is the dark steel blue and the long flowing coat and worries about nothing else I believe that is more wrong than worrying about whether or not the dog is dyed! JMHO
:::eyeroll:::

Donna Bird
Brookynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Yelena · 01-14-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Brooklynn

... if I had to choose to dye a dog or ...

the choice is not given

Brooklynn · 01-14-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Yelena

the choice is not given

LOL

SwimMom · 01-14-2008, 08:25 PM

Wow!

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Originally Posted by Yelena

the choice is not given

Yelena · 01-14-2008, 08:43 PM

Brooklynn

YorkieNewbie22 · 01-14-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PrestigeousYT

Here is a couple of pics of thumbprint on same pup.
You can see it fading it did clear to gold

Thank you, this helps a lot!!

Thanks everyone else for their responses too, Learn something new everyday!

JaLaYorkieGirl · 01-14-2008, 09:17 PM

I would rather lose to a yorkie that is sound both in mind and body with a dyed silky coat...than lose to a fabulous natural coat on a dog with LP...narrow rears...poor topline...sloped shoulders...etc...like Donna said it is just the icing...

Now could I ever dye a dog?...I do not think so...I would never sleep...lol...

There is a story, not sure if it was ever posted here, and I can not remember the breed, it was a breed I was shocked to hear was colored in the ring...lol...but a young girl was handling the dog...took him in and won...when she was getting her picture taken with the judge, the judge commented on how nicely groomed the dog was...the girl replied.."thanks I colored him myself" ROFLOL...

There is a lot that goes on in any hobby and any sport for that extra advantage...there are several things I am sure some do that I have yet to learn about...but you have to take the good with the bad...

PrestigeousYT · 01-14-2008, 09:57 PM

This is a very interesting reading.
Some of you may enjoy.

http://www.akc.org/breeders/resp_bre...entplanets.cfm

Deana
Prestigeous

yorkiekist · 01-14-2008, 10:39 PM

Quite a few breeders will dye a bitches coat after she has had a litter just to get those last few points as she has lightened up in color do to hormons during pregnancy.

Dont forget about the judge Suzanne Dillon also DQ's for color also.

Personally, I wouldnt dye a dog. I concentrate on structure, movement and health first. The hair is the icing on the cake. But I wont show a black adult or one with obvious soft hair either. Also, if I dyed a dog, it would look like I dyed the dog!!LOL I wouldnt know where to begin. I dont even dye my own hair(Its actually gone from an ugly mousy brown to a beautiful silver!!!LOL)

And, yes, Mr Usherwood is a total a*s!!IMO He was the judge that DQ'd almost the entire ring.

Yelena · 01-15-2008, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkiekist

Personally, I wouldnt dye a dog...

Hmm...do I live in the US or I'm still in a Soviet?

yorkiekist · 01-15-2008, 12:41 AM

did I miss something? What does that mean?

Ladyhawk · 01-15-2008, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Saleswman

Really cute! When does the "thumbprint" develop and when do they fade??? I guess it is hereditary???????
Or not??

Shirley

The thumbprint is the natural progression of going from the black and tan head of the puppy to the golden tan head of an adult. As the hair grows out the black becomes thinner giving way to the gold until it has faded away. Occationally in very dark dogs it doesn't go away and we say that the head failed to clear. The length of time that it takes to clear depends on the growth rate of the hair and other hereditary factors.

jencar98 · 01-15-2008, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by PrestigeousYT

This is a very interesting reading.
Some of you may enjoy.

http://www.akc.org/breeders/resp_bre...entplanets.cfm

Deana
Prestigeous

Thank you, that was interesting.

yorkiekist · 01-15-2008, 12:01 PM

A friend just e-mailed me a letter that was written by Mr. Usherwood on Jan 12, 2008. Basically it said that he is only doing his job as a judge and following the YTCA standard. He has been judging Yorkies for 30 some years and now has been villified in a matter of a day after he did his duty to DQ. He mentioned the AZ show and stated that none of the exhibitors entered were aware of the color change, so he brought copies adn handed them out. He also said that he has every right to sue anyone who deliberately tarnishes his name, but doesnt desire to go to that extreme.

bjh · 01-15-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkiekist

A friend just e-mailed me a letter that was written by Mr. Usherwood on Jan 12, 2008. Basically it said that he is only doing his job as a judge and following the YTCA standard. He has been judging Yorkies for 30 some years and now has been villified in a matter of a day after he did his duty to DQ. He mentioned the AZ show and stated that none of the exhibitors entered were aware of the color change, so he brought copies adn handed them out. He also said that he has every right to sue anyone who deliberately tarnishes his name, but doesnt desire to go to that extreme.

Well, that just shows how the change to the YT standard as made things even more confusing. If you read the standard it says the color should be 'dark steel blue' so the judge was justified in his mind to DQ the light dogs. Again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I think some judges will be making a statement by DQing dogs. I know it will have to be 7 years before the standard can be changed again but I just wish the YTCA had thought a little hard about the wording when they added the disqualification.

01-14-2008, 09:17 PM	#67
JaLaYorkieGirl YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 998	I would rather lose to a yorkie that is sound both in mind and body with a dyed silky coat...than lose to a fabulous natural coat on a dog with LP...narrow rears...poor topline...sloped shoulders...etc...like Donna said it is just the icing... Now could I ever dye a dog?...I do not think so...I would never sleep...lol... There is a story, not sure if it was ever posted here, and I can not remember the breed, it was a breed I was shocked to hear was colored in the ring...lol...but a young girl was handling the dog...took him in and won...when she was getting her picture taken with the judge, the judge commented on how nicely groomed the dog was...the girl replied.."thanks I colored him myself" ROFLOL... There is a lot that goes on in any hobby and any sport for that extra advantage...there are several things I am sure some do that I have yet to learn about...but you have to take the good with the bad... __________________ ~ Jackie ~ JaLa Yorkshire Terriers ~ "Excellence is more than just a vision."

01-14-2008, 08:43 PM	#65
Yelena Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 198	Brooklynn

01-14-2008, 09:57 PM	#68
PrestigeousYT YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: WV Posts: 1,475	This is a very interesting reading. Some of you may enjoy. http://www.akc.org/breeders/resp_bre...entplanets.cfm Deana Prestigeous

01-14-2008, 10:39 PM	#69
yorkiekist YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HOT, HOT, HOT AZ Posts: 2,147	Quite a few breeders will dye a bitches coat after she has had a litter just to get those last few points as she has lightened up in color do to hormons during pregnancy. Dont forget about the judge Suzanne Dillon also DQ's for color also. Personally, I wouldnt dye a dog. I concentrate on structure, movement and health first. The hair is the icing on the cake. But I wont show a black adult or one with obvious soft hair either. Also, if I dyed a dog, it would look like I dyed the dog!!LOL I wouldnt know where to begin. I dont even dye my own hair(Its actually gone from an ugly mousy brown to a beautiful silver!!!LOL) And, yes, Mr Usherwood is a total a*s!!IMO He was the judge that DQ'd almost the entire ring.

01-15-2008, 12:41 AM	#71
yorkiekist YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HOT, HOT, HOT AZ Posts: 2,147	did I miss something? What does that mean?

01-15-2008, 12:01 PM	#74
yorkiekist YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HOT, HOT, HOT AZ Posts: 2,147	A friend just e-mailed me a letter that was written by Mr. Usherwood on Jan 12, 2008. Basically it said that he is only doing his job as a judge and following the YTCA standard. He has been judging Yorkies for 30 some years and now has been villified in a matter of a day after he did his duty to DQ. He mentioned the AZ show and stated that none of the exhibitors entered were aware of the color change, so he brought copies adn handed them out. He also said that he has every right to sue anyone who deliberately tarnishes his name, but doesnt desire to go to that extreme.