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Old 12-18-2007, 09:49 AM   #16
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My daughter, 32y/o, was injured by the dpt vaccine, in her fifth month. She is now multi-challenged: non-verbal, non-ambulatory, and severe and profoundly retarded. She has seizures every day, and her cognitive level is between 6 - 8 months.

We do not get vaccines, neither do I vaccinate my dogs (except for what the law forces on us).
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My daughter, 32y/o, was injured by the dpt vaccine, in her fifth month. She is now multi-challenged: non-verbal, non-ambulatory, and severe and profoundly retarded. She has seizures every day, and her cognitive level is between 6 - 8 months.

We do not get vaccines, neither do I vaccinate my dogs (except for what the law forces on us).
Oh I am so sorry that your baby was affected by the dpt vaccine in this way.... thank GOD my children have no permanent damage... the doctors did tell me with my oldest daughter following her spinal tap for meningitis that she would likely not make it.... and if she did, that she would not come through it without some severe brain damage....... she is now 22 years old - a beautiful, healthy girl - and gave me my first grandbaby last Christmas day!!
I get SO angry when I think about all we've been through due to the vaccines - - - - but then I hear heartbreaking stories like yours and I realize how very much I am blessed!!!
I can't imagine how this must have changed your entire life.... bless you and your precious girl...
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My daughter, 32y/o, was injured by the dpt vaccine, in her fifth month. She is now multi-challenged: non-verbal, non-ambulatory, and severe and profoundly retarded. She has seizures every day, and her cognitive level is between 6 - 8 months.

We do not get vaccines, neither do I vaccinate my dogs (except for what the law forces on us).
That is awful. I am very sorry to hear about your daughter. That is so sad. With all the technology today, these kinds of things should not be happening.
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Is it possible-- that back in Oct of 07 I got Fergie the bulldog her first rabies vac. at a local clinic --days later she was limping? Then just the week of xmas could not up on her back legs at all.... for almost a week? now, is starting to move around some...and limited? Could a shot cause this?
She goes to breed vet in the AM monday. i don't want to give my yorkies he same vacs. and cause issues. Is Neopar a safe yorkie vac. Thanks KEVIN
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Pa state law requires Rabies vaccine to be made current every 3 years. recently the distemper, parafluenza, parvo vaccine can be given every 3 years after puppy shots have been given at proper intervals of 6,9,12,and 16 weeks, then given at 1 yr of age. Where I work we give 1 or 2 vaccines at one time, then do other vaccines such as lyme or bordatella (kennel cough) 1-2 weeks later. Vets are really taking a close look at how much in the way of vaccines is too much. We have titred dogs who have received several doses of lyme vaccine over several years and some are still immune while others no longer are just a year from last vaccine. It seems to be an individual thing as to how often some vaccines need to be given.
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Is it possible-- that back in Oct of 07 I got Fergie the bulldog her first rabies vac. at a local clinic --days later she was limping? Then just the week of xmas could not up on her back legs at all.... for almost a week? now, is starting to move around some...and limited? Could a shot cause this?
She goes to breed vet in the AM monday. i don't want to give my yorkies he same vacs. and cause issues. Is Neopar a safe yorkie vac. Thanks KEVIN
Kevin that sounds more like lyme disease especially that far out from having the vaccine in Oct. Have you talked to a vet about the symtoms? Depending on where you live ticks carry lyme disease, rocky mountain spotted fever, and erlichia, all of which can present with those symtoms.
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My daughter, 32y/o, was injured by the dpt vaccine, in her fifth month. She is now multi-challenged: non-verbal, non-ambulatory, and severe and profoundly retarded. She has seizures every day, and her cognitive level is between 6 - 8 months.

We do not get vaccines, neither do I vaccinate my dogs (except for what the law forces on us).
Sorry to hear about your daughter. I didn't get the pertussis part of the DT for my kids either when I heard of all the nasty side effects. That was 20 years ago. I would rather deal with hooping cough. I can't believe how many immunizations there now are for children, dealing with grandchildren, and they give 6 or 7 at one time whew!!
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Tara got her first booster on Friday and except a wee yalp she made when we actually touched the spot on her back by mistake, she did fine. I asked about the vaccinations my vet and she said that it's not true that it is not necessary to vaccinate every year, that they have dogs dying of parvo and lepto even those that have been vaccinated regularly. As for rabbies I don't think they do them here, except when you want them, but the other vaccinations distemper, lepto , parvo and parainfluenza are required. Tara does fine usually but she is 6.5 pounds so she is not a tiny yorkie but she is still small. It's probably harder to decide the dose with the tinies you have. They always weight her before giving the vaccine so they do it by weight. Maybe the smallest dogs should get really tiny dose. It's unfortunate when a dog or a child gets sick afterwards, they are just supposed to be tired and sleepy for about two days, which Tara was a little. I just would rather be better safe then sorry, so for now she will be getting hers regularly. But I understand your concerns maybe you should discuss your individual pet with your vet, it's always good to get a second opinion too. All the best for you and all your yorkies!
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Tara got her first booster on Friday and except a wee yalp she made when we actually touched the spot on her back by mistake, she did fine. I asked about the vaccinations my vet and she said that it's not true that it is not necessary to vaccinate every year, that they have dogs dying of parvo and lepto even those that have been vaccinated regularly. As for rabbies I don't think they do them here, except when you want them, but the other vaccinations distemper, lepto , parvo and parainfluenza are required. Tara does fine usually but she is 6.5 pounds so she is not a tiny yorkie but she is still small. It's probably harder to decide the dose with the tinies you have. They always weight her before giving the vaccine so they do it by weight. Maybe the smallest dogs should get really tiny dose. It's unfortunate when a dog or a child gets sick afterwards, they are just supposed to be tired and sleepy for about two days, which Tara was a little. I just would rather be better safe then sorry, so for now she will be getting hers regularly. But I understand your concerns maybe you should discuss your individual pet with your vet, it's always good to get a second opinion too. All the best for you and all your yorkies!
The American Animal Hospital Association has new guidelines about vaccines. The core vaccines (they say) should be given as puppy shots, then at one year then every three years. Some people believe even this is too much. Non core vaccines usually have a shorter duration of immunity and do need to be given more often if you are going to do them (but it is highly questionable whether these should be given at all).

The lepto vaccine can be very risky for small dogs.
It has killed Yorkie puppies.
Long-term side effects of vaccines include autoimmune disease and cancer.

We have to give the rabies vaccine every 1-3 years depending on state law in the US but all other are our choice (although some vets and groomers require certain ones).

Dogs that are vaccinated regularly can die of parvo and lepto.
Lepto doesn't cover all strains, so that could easily happen.
Any dog could be a non-responder to a vaccine making it worthless, so if they get the disease, vaccinated or not, they are unprotected.

So even if a dog doesn't react after a vaccine, they could months or years later. It really is a scary thing. We have stopped vaccinating Ellie every year because for us, the risk of over-vaccination outweighs the benefits.

But the vaccines/vaccine companies in the UK may be different.
Here, most vaccines aren't given by weight of the animal because it takes a certain amount of the virus to get an immune response. So it would not be uncommon for a Yorkie to get the same dose as a Great Dane.
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I do believe in vaccinations for my skin children, and I did get Daisy's puppy shots done, but she did have a reaction to them. She hasn't had any shots in quite some time now and she has a bald spot where they gave her the shots at. I never noticed it until her first grooming visit. As for my skin children, my oldest children, 8 and 6, never had any reactions other than being tired and maybe a lowgrade fever. Now, with my youngest, almost 3, after his first set of shots, he got sick almost immediately afterwards, like on the drive home. And was severely sick, was wheezing, couldn't breathe through his little nose and has had problems ever since then. But, by I do continue to get him his vaccinations to protect against the bad diseases out there.
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I have been exclusively giving hoeopathic nosode to my dogs (adults & puppies) for seven years. This covers all the normal doggie diseases INCLUDING kennel cough but excluding rabies (as we do not have it in the UK). I have never had a report from the owners who continue this regime that their dogs have become ill through not having been injected by a vet...I've never had a dog with me that has been ill because of the lack of the jabs. My vet has done titres on random dogs and has found that none of them need any further action. - FYI my vet is dead against not going down the route of injections and feels that the homeopathic method has 'not been proved' and still disagrees with it. He does, however, accept that I do this so ?????
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i agree Ada!

more and more is coming out about this.. and many people are now choosing a different route when it comes to vaccinations!

i think everyone has their own opinion on this topic.. i say just do your research and then you can make a educated decision, for yourself!

i know this is an older thread.. but i think it's a great topic!
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HI EVERYONE I HAVE READ IN DOCTORS FOSTERS AND SMITH CATALOG THEY SAY GIVE BOOSTERS EVERY 3 YEARS , DOGS AND CATS ,I HAD A POODLE TINY HE LIVED 20 YEARS I NEVER WORMED HIM OR EVER GAVE HIM A SHOT , HE JUST DIED OF OLD AGE , T TOLD MY VET ABOUT THIS ,HE SAID THEIR IS SO MUCH WORLD TRAVEL NOW THAT THESE DESIES HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THE USA. BARBARA MOMBOS MOM
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Totally agree. My two yorkies are under the care of Dr. Martin Goldstein of Smith Ridge Veterinary Center. Has great insights to this vacciation issure. Also check out his book - "The Nature Of Animal Healing" Google it for more answers or contact me at boomerstv@aol.com

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We gave our Yorkies a Titer Test. It's a blood test that measures the levels of the results of vaccinations in the dog. The vet then uses this info to determine whether the dogs actually needs to be vaccinated or not.

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