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06-26-2007, 07:01 AM | #1 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Seek great multi-vit/mineral - but not "tablet" form My boys are on Missing Link - but I also supplement w/ multi-vit/mineral. I bought some edible tabs - Wylie will have nothing to do w/ them; I then started grinding them up, pain in the butt. Tried children's chewables - but they contain aspartame (noticed after I brought them home, of course). SO, I found this one - is a multi-vit/min w/ probiotics AND enzymes to boot (powder form)! Do I dare think it's love at first view? Would like some validation from YT's nutritionistas that this is a good one and will solve my supplement dilemma for all eternity: http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/produc...es/999064.aspx
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06-26-2007, 07:21 AM | #2 |
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| Is the missing link not doing a good job. What food are you feeding. I am just curious why you feel you need to add even more supplement? |
06-26-2007, 07:26 AM | #3 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | The ML is good, but it doesn't fulfill all the supplementation needs if you're homecooking (which I am). I'm loosely going by Pitcairn's recommendations (and a few other "experts") for supplementation. ML isn't a multi-vit/mineral - I use it mostly for the Omega 3s, flax etcetera - but feel it's missing some other stuff. Do you use just ML?
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06-26-2007, 07:33 AM | #4 |
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| I use that vitamin powder from Only Natural Pet as I also homecook for my babies
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06-26-2007, 07:37 AM | #5 |
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| I only supplement with Missing Link but I dont home cook either. I was just asking because my vet told me if I fed a high quality dog food that I didnt even need to supplement but to go ahead if it made me feel better. |
06-26-2007, 10:02 AM | #6 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Gasp! Just found an even more perfect supplement. This one is multi vit/mineral, probiotic, digestive enzymes AND the Omegas! Love it! So, I'll be eliminating Missing Link and just giving this: http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/produc...at/999065.aspx
__________________ ~ A friend told me I was delusional. I nearly fell off my unicorn. ~ °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Ann | Pfeiffer | Marcel Verdel Purcell | Wylie | Artie °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° |
06-26-2007, 01:46 PM | #7 |
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| Great find, Wylie's mom!!! I go by Dr. Pitcairn's recommendations of vitamins and supplements for homecooked meals, but this looks pretty good! The only vitamin I really hesitate and do not add to their homecooked meals is Vitamin A. An overdose of Vitamin A can cause toxicity, so I try to add carrots to their meals pretty often so that they're getting the beta-carotene.
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06-26-2007, 01:48 PM | #8 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | That's what I thought about Vitamin A! Weird thing is, doesn't Dr. Pitcairn recommend a really high IU Vit. A in his book? I thought I read that....
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06-26-2007, 03:35 PM | #9 |
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| Dr. Pitcairn says in his book, that "most of his dog food recipes don't call for Vitamin A to be supplemented because dogs can make their own Vit A from carotene found in vegetables." So as long as they're getting veggies, Vit A doesn't need to be added. I don't follow his book exactly because there are some things that I don't do. I don't add vegetable/corn/canola oil...I don't even use those oils myself to cook because of the polyunsaturated fats...They are unstable and can cause free radicals. No thanks! LOL But as far as the recipes go, they're pretty good. The thing that gets me is the grains...They say that grains are harder for dogs to digest, but that if they're cooked, grains are digested much easier and they're able to utilize the nutrients from it. What do you think about grains? Do you use grains in your recipes? As of now, I do...
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06-27-2007, 06:20 AM | #10 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | I'm thinking about eliminating grains entirely - not even give them brown rice. They just don't need it, you know? It's really just a filler for them, so I'm beginning to wonder why I do it. I currently alternate between chicken breast and ground turkey, and occasionally tuna. I add either shredded cheese or grated parmesan, which they love. And, I supplement of course. They love to chew baby carrots - so I'm hopeful they're getting enough Vit A from those. I've just ordered Orijen and am excited about it - I really love their philosophy and learned a ton from their website. I think their higher protein is actually very appropriate (70/30/0 ration) and more in tune to their nature. So, I'll be switching from Canidae to Orijen for grazing. So, those are my basics....I still have a lot to learn, but I'm really enjoying the process.
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06-27-2007, 09:28 AM | #11 |
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| I'm forgetting, do you feed raw or do you cook the chicken/turkey/tuna?? Do you add veggies?
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06-27-2007, 09:33 AM | #12 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | I cook, then add back in the supplements. I really haven't been doing veggies either for awhile now. Some of the raw folks have said that whatever the dogs are getting from veggies, they'll get in a more digestible form from the supplements. They don't like them a whole lot either. Maybe I'll do some potato occasionally going forward. Plus, they'll get excellent "boosters" from the Orijen too. How 'bout you, are doing veggies and/or grain? And cooked or raw?
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06-27-2007, 09:58 AM | #13 |
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| My yorkie has a compromised liver and cannot eat any protein from meat, so his meals are cooked. But I only lightly steam/boil the veggies. Right now he gets egg, potatoes, sweet potatoes, carrots, and green beans with supplements added...This is the only diet that I have found that is formulated for a liver compromised dog long-term that is also okay to feed a dog with ammonium urate stones, which he does have. My maltese gets cooked as of right now. She usually gets ground turkey or ground chicken with rolled oats or brown rice and veggies like carrots (for the betacarotene) and celery/green beans or something like that with supplements added. We add vitamin b-complex, vitamin e, kelp, nutritional yeast, bone meal, lecithin granules and a little vitamin c. I've read that as long as the veggies are pulverized, juiced, or lightly steamed, they can get all the nutrition from them. I'm on the fence though regarding the grains...I still give grains but would like to learn more. I don't give them any dry food because Miko, my liver compromised yorkie, can only eat either RC Hepatic LS 14 or Avoderm Vegetarian(which are also safe for my maltese to eat), but dry foods are not good for him because of his stones. I have to try to avoid them unless I had equal parts water to the food. And he won't eat it wet. LOL
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