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Old 01-05-2007, 09:56 AM   #1
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Default Bailey started her period. Advice?

Hello everyone! I noticed Bailey started her period either today or yesterday. I think it's her first. I have never had a female dog before. Always male. I am just wondering if there is anything I need to know. For example, do Yorkies bleed a lot? Should I put diapers on her? The only reason I noticed it now is because her nipples swelled up, she got a piece of poo stuck to her butt this morning and when I used some tissue to get it off, I noticed a hint of blood. Not near her butt of course. Plus, she seems not her usual self. Real needy and winey. Definately on her period. Haha. Poor thing. I feel for her.

Anyway, any advice or tips would be great. Maybe I don't really need any, but it's always best to be prepared. Thanks!
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They sure don't seem to want to look at or reply to this post! I have had the same trouble here, if you don't spay, they won't talk to you (I should mention that I have found a lot of great advice here, just not regarding the current subject). My yorkie-poo (half yorkie, half toy poodle) started her second period yesterday and she just turned 1. The first heat (at 6 months) wasn't so bad, the blood lasted about 7 days (she kept herself clean so there was only a few noticeable drops per day). I kept her in her spacious travel carrier with some old soft towels under her for the night (I kept the carrier on my bed of course, because she normally sleeps on my bed beside me). In the morning there would be a few drops of blood on the towels. She slept a lot, and this time around she seems to be eating more. She also had a little diarrhea yesterday (probably because I let her eat more than she usually does), but she stayed regular during her first heat. She seemed completely herself after about 10 days.
I hope this helps, I was wondering myself if there was anything I could do for her to make her feel better. I'm still looking around the net to see what should help her.
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My best advice would be to get her spayed.
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What made you guys decide not to have your girls spayed? Do you plan on breeding? Just curious...
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I would wait until about a month after the heat is over and have her spayed. Not much else you can do now to make her feel better, it just runs its course...a natural state of affairs for a non-spayed bitch. Best wishes
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Old 01-05-2007, 08:20 PM   #6
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Hello everyone! I noticed Bailey started her period either today or yesterday. I think it's her first. I have never had a female dog before. Always male. I am just wondering if there is anything I need to know. For example, do Yorkies bleed a lot? Should I put diapers on her? The only reason I noticed it now is because her nipples swelled up, she got a piece of poo stuck to her butt this morning and when I used some tissue to get it off, I noticed a hint of blood. Not near her butt of course. Plus, she seems not her usual self. Real needy and winey. Definately on her period. Haha. Poor thing. I feel for her.

Anyway, any advice or tips would be great. Maybe I don't really need any, but it's always best to be prepared. Thanks!
Hi, the main thing to know is to (obviously) keep her away from males. Don't let her go out into your yard alone (even if you have a fenced yard). Rocky can jump over a 4 ft fence with no problem and our friends 2 blocks away have 2 male dogs that know when Sunnie's in heat. I've saw some Lhasa Apso/Golden puppies here this summer that came as a great surprise to the owner of the Lhasa momma when she found the 2 of them together in the back yard. The Golden scaled a 6 ft fence.
Maggie was messy. She tried to keep clean but when she would get up in the morning you could tell where she slept. Sunnie just spots and the only way I can tell is if I check her with a tissue.
I tried the panties with the liners and Maggie would pull the liners out and shred them and both of them can wiggle out of them.
You asked real good questions. Be patient, good luck. It'll be over with in a couple of weeks.
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Old 01-06-2007, 10:28 AM   #7
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I must say that I am surprised by some of the responses here considering this is a place where a lot of breeders come to talk about Yorkies. Not that I am a breeder or anything, but I wouldn't have thought it out of the ordinary to not have my female spayed.

I do understand the need to keep dogs and cats spayed in this day and age with all the homeless souls in shelters and on the streets. However, I do not plan to ever spay Bailey unless it becomes necessary. It has nothing to do with wanting to breed her, because I have no intentions of doing that. It is my own personal belief that it is unhealthy to remove an animal or humans abillity to reproduce. Not only are you preventing pregnancy, but you are also stopping/greatly reducing the production of certain hormones needed for particular bodilly functions and growth. This all stems from my own experience and research on women and birth control. Women on birth control are much more likely to develop osteoporosis (bone loss). This is especially true when taking Depo Provera because you STOP having your period. Women are also more prone to develop progesterone deficiency from not having their period. Women will be in a state much similar to that of menopause. Think about what women go through during menopause. When women and men stop the abillity to reproduce, their hormones go through drastic changes. Those hormones are an important factor in growth, emotions, and development. Granted, there are some benefits to spaying and neutering, but I personally believe it is unhealthy.

I want you to know that I am speaking from personal experience. Because I took Depo Provera for 5 years, my hair thinned and fell out leaving bald spots, my immune system crashed, I was depressed and moody, and suffered horrible migraine headaches. This was prior to the world discovering women on Depo Provera developed osteroporosis if taking the drug for over 2 years. Now you might think that it's a reaction of the drug, but it's not. It's a reaction of not having your period when you are still in your growth and development phase. This leads me to believe that female dogs who have that taken away at such a young age could be suffering in the same manner.

I am sure many of you will protest my ideals, but I put a lot of effort into knowing and understanding what not having a period does to the female body.

Really, I just wanted some advice to make Bailey more comfortable and prevent messes. She NEVER goes outside without me and NEVER runs around loose outside. All the male dogs she comes in contact with are already neutered too so no worries there.

Thanks for the advice. Sorry my reply was so lengthy, but it's something I feel very stongly about.
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You're welcome. I'm glad that you don't let her outside alone. FYI: Sunnie's first heat. We locked up Rocky when she needed to go out. We heard a yelp and she was hooked up with our neutered male Yorkie mix. You have to watch those males all of the time. Just when you think it's safe.......

That's the only experiences that I've had around here. Just make her comfortable and she should keep herself clean but, you can use baby wipes or a warm cloth to clean her if she gets messy.

You ask good questions. Just sort out the information that fits your situation and let the rest go. You know what's right for you.
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Jessica ~ Not a breeder here, just another person who is owned and loved by this extraordinary breed and wants the best for her. I, too, was pretty set on not spaying Abigail. Until research revealed that non-bred bitches have a much higher risk of mammary cancer, and the risk gets higher with each heat cycle. Pyometra - an infection and accumulation of pus inside the uterus which can cause the liver and kidneys to fail, is, in itself, a pretty strong argument for spaying. My Abbie's first heat snuck up on me, and the vet reported this had already begun in her. Only I guess(?) the vet didn't think I could handle a word like Pyometry, so she just said "she had a little pus in the uterus - good thing we did it now."
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Jessica,

Although I am not an expert or dr either, I agree with your beliefs. There are just certain things mother nature put into place for a reason. And if the need does NOT arise to change it, then why not just leave it alone?

However, I will have a different dillema. I have a 2 1/2 yr old male shepherd, Diablo, whom I have had since he was six weeks old. He is without a doubt the best dog I have ever had and will ever have. My son and I worked very hard to train him and he is just a great, well balanced animal! We love him to death. We love him so much that we went and bought him a female shepherd to keep him company. Ginger, a 3 year-old whom whe rescued from a GS rescue at 18 months of age, is also a great dog. Since she is from a rescue, she is automatically spayed. She gets along with Diablo and together they make a very happy brother/sister love/hate relationship. Diablo is not neutered and he never will be. If the opportunity arises to breed him, (he is AKC and just gorgeous), then so be it. But if not, that's fine too. As long as he doesn't require the procedure for anything medical or behavioral, then we are just going to leave well enough alone.

As for baby Chuey here, the same will apply. He is strictly and indoor dog and with diligent house breaking training, we can get him to adapt to not marking everywhere. Hopefully he will feel well enough that he won't have to!

Sorry that my post was also so long, however, I felt I had to be the voice for my well behaved boys!!

Thanks for your time and support!
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She may or may not need a diaper. Some females will hardly bleed at all and will keep themselves really clean. Others need diapers as they bleed quite a bit. So far my two girls that have come into heat both needed diapers because they bled quite a bit. There really isn't much you can do for her, just have to wait it out and make sure she is kept away from any male dogs and don't let her outside alone, a male dog can smell a female in heat about a mile away and will do anything to get to her. Other than that, just have her spayed after she is completely out of heat, I would wait a month since dogs are usually in heat for 3 weeks.


As for whether to spay or neuter, I strongly suggest that if the dog is going to be bred, have it spayed or neutered.
I think it irresponsible to not spay or neuter your dog unless you are planning on breeding or your dog has a health issue that interfers with him/her being spayed/neutered. Also keep in mind that there is a huge difference in a female dog being spayed and not having her period from a woman not having her period. A dog's system is entirely different from ours and you really can't compare it.

Years ago, we were in the same line of thinking, we didn't want our Dutchess to get spayed, we didn't find it necessary and thought it was mean to put her through that. It was very irresponsible of us and I will regret it for the rest of my life. Dutchess ended up developing a infection or cancer from not being spayed and sadly it was our fault she didn't get to live longer.
When your dog is not spayed and is not bred she develops a higher risk of developing cancer because of it. It happens alot more than we would like to think. I can count way many more dogs being put to sleep or suffering because they were not spayed and developed cancer or an infection than I can count dogs that suffered from being spayed. So if you love your dog, have them spayed. IMHO
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Only I guess(?) the vet didn't think I could handle a word like Pyometry, so she just said "she had a little pus in the uterus - good thing we did it now."
..and I guess(?) she was right, as I can't even spell it correctly!
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