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03-20-2005, 10:17 AM | #1 |
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| Liver Shunt We have a 2 yrs old Male Yorkie that started to drool badly on right side of mouth and acting lethargic. We took him to the Vet's, they did a blood test and found his liver enzimes very high 388. Told us to put him on a Hills k/d diet or feed him boiled rice with chicken & brocolli. We started the diet , with a complete change to 95% better .Told us to get an ultrasound done. They found his liver small and light in color. They sent us back to the Vet's for another test where we couldn't feed him for 8hrs, they tested his enzimes they were 90 ,feed him and tested enzimes they were 408. Sent us to a surgeon thta wants to do an exploratory surgery find the shunt , put a ring around the shunt. We want to know if anyone has had this surgery done on their Yorkie and how did they do. Is it a necessary surgery or will diet change take care of problem? We are afriad to do the surgery since it's exploratory & they will cut his whole chest area. but we don't want to do delay the surgery, if waiting will harm him more.Please advise Bob & Deb |
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03-20-2005, 10:25 AM | #2 |
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| Liver Shunt Unfortunately, diet may not help, as liver shunt is a condition where the blood bypasses the the liver, and therefore the blood does not get cleaned. The sugery is one which has been done for awhile now, as long as the vet knows what they are doing.. Here is a link found on shooters.com on liver shunt.. http://www.livershunt.com/ Best of luck.. and do not delay! |
03-20-2005, 12:21 PM | #3 |
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| I am very sorry your Yorkie is going through this. I hope surgery corrects his liver shunt and he is happy and well again.
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03-27-2005, 06:31 AM | #4 |
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| us too????? We took our dog Matise to the vet yesterday because he was vomiting for no apparent reason. Matise is 7 1/2 months old. The vet said that maybe we should have the blood test run and the liver bile test too. He thinks he is too skinny possibly due to a liver shunt. We are devasted. We just had to have surgery on him because he had undescended testicals. So we are very worried if he will have to have surgery again. We don't know anything about this and I have been researching this liver shunt/ portal shunt on the internet. You said that you had to have a test after you had your dog fast and then after he ate- how much did that cost, we are going to have to have that test on tues. probably. I also heard that prescription diet u/d is what they use because it is lower in protein. I hope that your dog is well and does well. Thanks for any information you can send. Kara |
03-27-2005, 02:39 PM | #5 |
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| I have a liver shunt survivor, she had the shunt surgery almost 2 years ago and is doing great today. If your dog does have a shunt and you don't have the surgery the outcome will be certain death. My Misty had the surger where they put the constrictor ring on the shunt to slowly close it off, and she is now a normal happy dog. |
03-28-2005, 06:44 PM | #6 |
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| Liver Shunt Too Lil Bear is a 6 year old shunt suvivor thankfully she has a small shunt and has not required surgery yet. I was lucky that I was working at the vet when I noticed her pee orange and she was sleepy and vomiting she was maybe 2 months old at the time. My vet also put her on the low protein food. The vet said to try the diet first since she wasn't wanting to do the surgery. Luckly lil bear is doing fine now. She doesn't get anything over 18% protein at the max treat wise and if it is between 12 and 18% it's one every couple of days. It takes a lot of diligence finding food and treats safe for her and chewys too. A lot of chewys are high protein!!! We can tell when she has had a bit too much protein cause she will get an orange tint in her pee so we give only her food and nothing else for a week atleast. If you have a finiky(sp) eater like lil bear and don't want to give your baby icky wet food, natures recipie has a semi-moist food that lil bear gobbles up. Petco has it and it has all the nutrition they need. Also look on Yahoo or any search engine for liver shunt and yorkie, I know at one point there was a college...I think LSU collecting data on liver shunt pups and trying to find an alternative to surgery for the ones that have bad liver shunts....lil bears is on the small side we believe. Also if you live near a vet college call and talk to them, we live near University of Florida which has an excellent vet college where you can find info. I hope this helps. I know how scary it is, but you can manage and your pup will be ok...I know everyone on yorkietalk is hoping things turn out fine and your are led to the right choice. Last edited by envrobear; 03-28-2005 at 06:47 PM. |
03-28-2005, 07:16 PM | #7 |
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| At what age do liver shunt symptoms occur? |
03-28-2005, 07:55 PM | #8 |
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| Symptoms can occur at any time, but for an inherited shunt it will almost always be before they are 2. An inherited Liver problem can be found in puppies as young as 10 weeks by having a bile acid test done on them. The cost of the test varies in different parts of the country. I have heard of it being done for as little as 50 some dollars, up to over a hundred dollars. I tell anyone that is looking for a yorkie pup to insist it be done before they purchase the pup, even if it means that they have to pay for it. It is much cheaper to have the test and know you are getting a healthy puppy than it is to find out your pup has it after you have had it and become attached to it. The surgery is not cheap, but there are places you can apply for help to have it done. I show and breed yorkies, and my dogs are tested before they are bred and also all the puppies are tested at 10 weeks of age. If I sell a puppy, I want to assure the new parents that they are getting a healthy happy puppy. |
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