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02-20-2015, 04:22 PM | #1 |
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| Natures Variety Instinct Healthy Weight Does anyone feed this to your furbabies? Could anyone tell me what the % of fat is in this formula? Found a good food that Zoey likes and agrees with , Natures Variety kibble, and she's gaining weight on it. Cutting back doesn't work , she begs for more. Thought I'd try this.. Thanks! |
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02-20-2015, 04:37 PM | #2 |
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| I found this on their website. This is for kibble. It is a minimum of 12% and maximum of 16% for chicken. Chicken formula: Instinct Grain-Free Healthy Weight Kibble Dog Food - Chicken | Instinct Pet Food for Dogs and Cats Salmon: Instinct Grain-Free Healthy Weight Kibble Dog Food - Salmon & Turkey | Instinct Pet Food for Dogs and Cats Cans: Chicken Instinct Grain-Free Healthy Weight Canned Dog Food - Chicken | Instinct Pet Food for Dogs and Cats Salmon: Instinct Grain-Free Healthy Weight Canned Dog Food - Salmon | Instinct Pet Food for Dogs and Cats
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02-20-2015, 05:28 PM | #3 | |
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That meaning the lower % is for the salmon flavor , I would take it. The 16% for the chicken.....she's eating the turkey flavored kibble now and it has 18% fat. She eats within her daily reccommended amount , and is extra active keeping up with her new sister so I don't know if that makes that much difference....hmmm....they sure brag it up though..... Thanks again for going out of your way to help...I appreciate it! I think I'll buy it and try it... | |
02-20-2015, 05:33 PM | #4 |
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| Oh I see it now! I see what you mean my in and max but I don't understand it! Lol How in the world can it be 12% min AND 16% max fat at the same time ?!? Ohhhh my I'm sure that waaa stupid wuestion for those that getit but I don't! Lol😱 |
02-20-2015, 05:33 PM | #5 |
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| You're very welcome. The 12% minimum and 16% maximum was for the chicken. It means it's at least 12% fat but no more than 16%. The same is true for salmon. When you go to the links I provided, click on nutrients, and it will give you the analysis. I thought the links would bring you directly to that, but when I just clicked them, they don't.
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02-20-2015, 05:36 PM | #6 |
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02-20-2015, 05:48 PM | #7 |
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| From what I've read, it has to do with batch variation. From AAFCO's website: The Association of American Feed Control Officials (AAFCO) > Nutritional Labeling Important to note is that a single analysis of a product may not provide sufficient data to determine reliable guarantees. Guarantees are declared as either “minimums” or “maximums,” meaning that if a feed control official obtained a sample of the product and tested it in his or her official state lab, the crude protein and crude fat must be NO LESS THAN the stated percentage on the label, while the crude fiber and moisture must be NO MORE THAN the label declaration. Each batch of finished product is going to vary in composition due to variation in ingredient composition, mixing rates, and amount of water driven off during the cooking process. Unfortunately, a single analytical value does not give any indication as to the expected batch-to-batch variation. As a result, the composition of the batch that was tested may be very different from the one the feed control official analyzes.
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02-20-2015, 06:40 PM | #8 |
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| Well that's good to know ... ...makes me feel somewhat misled by their claims of it being less fattening though ...but I see they are comparing it to one particular formula, and it isn't the one I am feeding....plus the high end isn't too far off from my 18%.. Hmmmm Thanks for clarifying that ......tis a learning process....I would rather make home made meals but all the info is too overwhelming . Ratios, supplements, fear of deficiencies......online consults ...too much .... |
02-20-2015, 07:07 PM | #9 |
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| The Nature's Variety Instinct Turkey has a minimum of 18%. They don't tell you what the maximum fat is, so the healthy weight chicken may be a lot less fat. . . Or maybe not. I hate the minimum percentage because it doesn't give you the full story. I home-cook for Katie, and I supplement with Balance-It. She doesn't eat early in the morning when I leave for work, so I leave a little kibble out in case she's hungry. I remember your struggle to get Zoey to eat, so it's great that you found something she likes. Both of your little girls are beautiful. There is something about Zoey that has always reminded me of one of my Rainbow Bridge babies.
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02-20-2015, 09:19 PM | #10 |
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| Awwww, that's neat....probably her short little snout...or her eyes are more almond shaped than round....her baby sister looks just like her but totally different personalities. Zoey is very docile , takes everything as it comes.... while Izzy is a go getter and sassy to boot....my fur baby girls , love em to pieces.... I looked into balance it , and you have to involve your vet. No can do....mine wants me to use their Hills or something "clinically tested"....she wouldn't even look at my choice of probiotics and digestive enzymes...says the less we add to food the better. So she's no help. I was just adding pet vitamins to that for home cooked till zoey wanted to crunch kibble again...having another dog stimulates her to eat too....like you aren't going to get MY food.think I'll try the other and continue to separate them at mealtime.... Any advise on how to around the vet to get balance it? |
02-21-2015, 04:55 AM | #11 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Just curious why you're focusing on the fat itself, does she have a specific health issue that causes a need to monitor the fat? Otherwise, I'd be looking at / comparing not just kcal's, but also carbs...I'd go with a lower carb / higher protein diet.
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02-21-2015, 05:26 AM | #12 | |
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I don't even know what ratio to look for her. Are you talking about going with the NV Healthy Weight one? | |
02-21-2015, 06:16 AM | #13 | |
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02-21-2015, 08:56 AM | #14 | |
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I pretty much come to terms that I'm not going to find the perfect vet....I have been thru 2 others with my moms dog too. As long as they know to do tests when necessary and am able to diagnose the problem and treat it successfully....I guess that is all we should ask from a vet.... If you want more it's up to you to seek a specialist... That's my lesson learned....then again it might be my red neck area too...lol And I did try to go thru balance it and they required me to go thru my vet. So now what... | |
02-21-2015, 09:42 AM | #15 |
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| For a healthy, adult dog, you can get a recipe without a vet consult. This is the link: https://secure.balanceit.com/tools/r...tor/index.php? You also could do a consult with a vet nutritionist. For a diet that doesn't involve your vet, it is for a healthy, spayed dog who is an ideal weight. The cost is only $25 for the first recipe and $12 for each additional. https://www.petdiets.com/Homemade-Diets https://www.petdiets.com/userfiles/files/samplediet.pdf
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