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07-08-2014, 08:05 AM | #1 |
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| found this documentary on Pet food production https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrBOOhDCC6g&feature=kp Many of you have likely seen it before, but for those of you who haven't, here you go. I especially like the part where the weirdly prepared concoction actually passes nutritional standards |
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07-09-2014, 07:09 AM | #2 |
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| I hate to bump this thread and call attention to it, but I feel I must address it. Everyone has a right to post anything they want on this forum and voice their opinions. I must say though that I am growing weary of your little campaign. You feed raw and swear it is the best. I get that. You say you want to educate others. I don't get that. It seems to me that you only want to post things that will validate your choice to feed raw and you do that by saying other foods are inferior. Yes, there were recalls and yes, dogs died. What we don't know is how many dogs have become ill and/or died from illnesses due to raw foods. No one feeding method is superior. It is what works for each individual and their pets. I don't post articles about the things I feed to "educate" people by bashing raw. I would ask you to please refrain from bashing the foods I feel work for my pets. I cannot make you do that...I can only tell you that I find it offensive and unnecessary.
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I don't like diet/food bashing or denigration either....I think it 100% closes down everyone's mind, they just snap shut and the convo becomes about something else entirely...and it's just too negative for my tastes. I feed raw, and yet I TRULY and absolutely believe that a healthy dog can come from kibble, canned, freeze dried, home cooked, raw, vegan, what have you -- as long as you're getting reasonably close to the RDAs. I understand that some people think "kibble is crap" and accept that as their opinion...but I don't see how it achieves anything to say that, nor do I find it educated. And on the same token, I'm sure there are plenty of people here who think "raw is crap"...and again, not only is that uneducated - but it does nothing toward having a calm, decent, factual, actual discussion. Saying stuff like that turns it into a confrontation instead...which is a real bummer bc that achieves zilch.
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07-09-2014, 01:05 PM | #4 |
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| I don't know if you watched in its entirety, they talk to several vets, they interview a vet nutritionist who backs up dry foods, it's not about raw. It's about pet foods. |
07-09-2014, 01:16 PM | #5 |
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| Yes but its because its you presenting it and you have made digs at the kibble industry is the reason you get this type of reaction. I know you are just trying to be informative but youve got to change the way you go about it to get a better reception
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07-09-2014, 01:30 PM | #6 |
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| This is interesting in many ways. In my area there are several large/huge medical facilities who welcome therapy dogs EXCEPT those who are fed raw. The epidemiologists have determined that while salmonella is not a huge problem for most dogs, it is for humans and especially children, ill and well, and therefor they take that stand. I personally talked with them and irregardless about your feeding preference the research is significant. It is not just the dogs it is also about the dog handler who handle/feed the food who's hands they sampled in several of the studies. It is felt it is just to risky for exposure for ill people. I'm not pro or con, I just found this to be very interesting.
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07-09-2014, 02:01 PM | #7 | |
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07-09-2014, 02:09 PM | #8 |
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| Of course Yorkiemini. I totally understand the safety concerns, you would never wih to compromise someone with an auto immune disorder. And Chachi, yes I do have a strong opinion regarding the long term effects of kibble feeding animals. I do not feed myself highly processed foods, except the occasional can of chef boyardee, but I'm certainly not alone. There are many vets who are quite forthright about it too. Questioning illnesses now showing up in dogs that before were pretty much non existent. I choose to follow in their shoes. I have three wonderful holistic vets whom I fully trust. I'm proud of all my decisions regarding my dogs. |
07-09-2014, 02:22 PM | #9 |
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| Teegy I can see you have done alot of research and are proud of your feeding decisions. I am not anti raw. I feed kibble but I see nothing wrong with feeding raw or homecooking every body has the right to feed what they want and they see as best based on their own research. Im on the outside looking in on these threads that continually go bad and just sharing my thoughts on how maybe these threads can stay on track and be informative rather than have people posting that are insulted because something was said negatively about what they feed. They have strong opinions and feel their food choices are best also
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07-09-2014, 02:37 PM | #10 | |
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07-09-2014, 02:39 PM | #11 | |
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07-09-2014, 03:38 PM | #12 |
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| Oh for sure Chachi. Appreciate your input. |
07-09-2014, 03:40 PM | #13 |
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| No I don't agree with safety issues again misreading what I write. I agree about people having fears when dealing with people who are sick. I didn't say anything else. I know lots of raw feeders with service dogs and they have never had issues. Last edited by Teegy; 07-09-2014 at 03:42 PM. |
07-09-2014, 05:15 PM | #14 | |
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If you would stick with posting what you believe is a good way to feed your pups and stop bashing others methods of feeding, there would be no issues. I could sit here all day and argue with you about why I feel that my choices are best; but what a colossal waste of time that would be. I don't agree with you and you don't agree with me. I don't sit here for example and say that I feed kibble because I think feeding raw is _____ or _____ or _____. I feed kibble and canned foods...and I home cook. I do a variety of things and it works for my pups. I have no reason to say I do it because of my feelings about raw food. Why do you continually bash what the majority of people feed their dogs in order to validate what you do? Think about that for a moment.
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