Rabies shot today

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

And I just found this article about Dr. Dodd. Interesting read:Can you own an idea? Hemopet sues Nestle-Purina and Hill’s over Nutrigenomics. | The SkeptVet Blog

Here's a little blurb.



A recent example is a lawsuit filed by veterinary Hemopet, a blood blank and diagnostic testing company founded by Dr. Jean Dodds, and the pet diet manufacturer Nestle-Purina. Dr. Dodds is herself a complex character. She has done great and important work in promoting transfusion medicine and is well-regarded as an advocate and researcher, though without a traditional academic background or affiliation. She is undoubtedly a pioneer in veterinary medicine.

However, like many pioneers she holds a number of views which are not compatible with a conventional medical or scientific understanding, and her accomplishments do not automatically make these views legitimate. She goes beyond the available evidence in claiming that vaccines are an established and important cause of disease (so-called vaccinosis). Her theories about thyroid disease are not generally accepted by endocrinologists, though they are widely promoted by practitioners of alternative veterinary medicine. In fact, Dr. Dodds’ ideas are quite popular with this community, and in addition to being on the board of the American Holistic Veterinary Medical Foundation, she has been awarded the honor of Holistic Veterinarian of the Year.

[jp4m2]

Originally Posted by 107barney

OP, hope your dog is feeling better today. As I'm sure it was the car ride and the treats and not the rabies vaccine, hopefully she's back to herself. If not you should call your vet. I know some here try to censor my views but I pay them no mind since they are not moderators. What you do with vaccines is your choice, I will continue to listen to the vets that know and treat my dogs over some opinion that is not widely accepted by the veterinary institution. I am slapping no one in the face and I can't be responsible if others chose to think my views slap down theirs. I could easily say the very same to them and call them fear mongers who have an agenda to make everything about "the machine" sound like a big conspiracy. I'm going back to reading about the missing plane now.

Excuse me, but I only addressed your post because your seemed to have taken issue with my post. The OP asked if the rabies vaccine can cause vomiting and I said it can. Then you took issue with what I posted. ....This is not fear mongering it is a legitimate possible side effect. You could have just answered the OP's question with your own opinion without trying to discredit mine. Now your trying to make it look like I'm posting "fear mongering" information and I'm picking your posts. Really???

I'm not even going to address megansmomma posts....They don't even pertain to the conversation.

I am now done with this thread. I wish the OP the best and I'm sorry it got derailed.

[coco2013]

I appreciate your opinions.
Coco is back to normal today. I'm pretty sure it wasn't the car ride as she goes with us everywhere and never gets car sick. I do believe it was nerves 100%. Because, now that I think back, she started trembling when we got called into the room. I spoke to her and cuddled her closer into my arms and she calmed. Then when the vet walked into the room her trembling began again. Now, I have not given her the new treats today. I am going to wait a couple more days and then try them again and see how that works out. The day of the vaccine I only gave her two or her normal Blue treats(reward after shot) It was probably 2-3 hours before she got her new treats and she only got I think 2. They are very small treats, smaller than a dime in diameter. So, I know for sure I didn't give her too many treats. Nerves can cause me to have diarrhea so I'm leaning toward nerves causing her to throw up.

Thank you so much for all your input. It actually caused me to think back on the day and remember about her trembling little body. Heck, I have "white coat" syndrome myself.

[Maximo]

Happy to read that Coco is back to herself today. Sounds like maybe it was just the anxiety of the vet visit and having a shot.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by coco2013

I appreciate your opinions.
Coco is back to normal today. I'm pretty sure it wasn't the car ride as she goes with us everywhere and never gets car sick. I do believe it was nerves 100%. Because, now that I think back, she started trembling when we got called into the room. I spoke to her and cuddled her closer into my arms and she calmed. Then when the vet walked into the room her trembling began again. Now, I have not given her the new treats today. I am going to wait a couple more days and then try them again and see how that works out. The day of the vaccine I only gave her two or her normal Blue treats(reward after shot) It was probably 2-3 hours before she got her new treats and she only got I think 2. They are very small treats, smaller than a dime in diameter. So, I know for sure I didn't give her too many treats. Nerves can cause me to have diarrhea so I'm leaning toward nerves causing her to throw up.

Thank you so much for all your input. It actually caused me to think back on the day and remember about her trembling little body. Heck, I have "white coat" syndrome myself.

I'm glad she's feeling better.

[107barney]

Originally Posted by coco2013

I appreciate your opinions.
Coco is back to normal today. I'm pretty sure it wasn't the car ride as she goes with us everywhere and never gets car sick. I do believe it was nerves 100%. Because, now that I think back, she started trembling when we got called into the room. I spoke to her and cuddled her closer into my arms and she calmed. Then when the vet walked into the room her trembling began again. Now, I have not given her the new treats today. I am going to wait a couple more days and then try them again and see how that works out. The day of the vaccine I only gave her two or her normal Blue treats(reward after shot) It was probably 2-3 hours before she got her new treats and she only got I think 2. They are very small treats, smaller than a dime in diameter. So, I know for sure I didn't give her too many treats. Nerves can cause me to have diarrhea so I'm leaning toward nerves causing her to throw up.

Thank you so much for all your input. It actually caused me to think back on the day and remember about her trembling little body. Heck, I have "white coat" syndrome myself.

Great news!

[chestermama]

Im glad she is better

[mimimomo]

Originally Posted by 107barney

Agreed. And, the cult like following of this one research veterinarian is beyond my comprehension. If her protocol was so spectacular, then why aren't the prestigious veterinary institutions in this country recommending it? Last I checked, world renowned AAMC in Boston was following AAHA protocols. I don't speak for them, but luckily, I have not heard them speak of her.


OP, rabies is unlikely the culprit. I think your dog had too many snacks and a car ride that made her sick. Hope she feels better soon.

Cathy I know you don't mean no harm, but I find this remark offensive...you said the same thing in another thread when I linked Dr Dodds' blog. Just bc I & others happen to admire Dr Dodds & all the research she does on vaccinations, tithers & NutriScan tests (etc.) doesn't mean we have a cult mentality. It's not 'deviant or a novel belief'. Not when the NutriScan test has literally saved Turbo's life. That test showed what he was intolerant of & when I removed those offending proteins from his diet, he stopped throwing up.
I don't think a person will just follow 1 thing (like a cult religion), it's learning & collecting knowledge from all walks of life.

P.S. I've also experience twice, allergic reactions of my pups from vaccinations...it is hella scary. No joke. Def not a myth.

[mimimomo]

Originally Posted by coco2013

I appreciate your opinions.
Coco is back to normal today. I'm pretty sure it wasn't the car ride as she goes with us everywhere and never gets car sick. I do believe it was nerves 100%. Because, now that I think back, she started trembling when we got called into the room. I spoke to her and cuddled her closer into my arms and she calmed. Then when the vet walked into the room her trembling began again. Now, I have not given her the new treats today. I am going to wait a couple more days and then try them again and see how that works out. The day of the vaccine I only gave her two or her normal Blue treats(reward after shot) It was probably 2-3 hours before she got her new treats and she only got I think 2. They are very small treats, smaller than a dime in diameter. So, I know for sure I didn't give her too many treats. Nerves can cause me to have diarrhea so I'm leaning toward nerves causing her to throw up.

Thank you so much for all your input. It actually caused me to think back on the day and remember about her trembling little body. Heck, I have "white coat" syndrome myself.

Glad to hear that Coco is back to her spunky self!

[107barney]

Originally Posted by mimimomo

Cathy I know you don't mean no harm, but I find this remark offensive...you said the same thing in another thread when I linked Dr Dodds' blog. Just bc I & others happen to admire Dr Dodds & all the research she does on vaccinations, tithers & NutriScan tests (etc.) doesn't mean we have a cult mentality. It's not 'deviant or a novel belief'. Not when the NutriScan test has literally saved Turbo's life. That test showed what he was intolerant of & when I removed those offending proteins from his diet, he stopped throwing up.
I don't think a person will just follow 1 thing (like a cult religion), it's learning & collecting knowledge from all walks of life.

P.S. I've also experience twice, allergic reactions of my pups from vaccinations...it is hella scary. No joke. Def not a myth.

You can report my remarks if you find them offensive but I in no way called you or anyone else "deviant". I'll break it down for you another way so maybe you'll see my point. I simply have little patience or tolerance for lack of science. I have read a lot about that test, and have consulted with board certified specialists about it, and came to the conclusion it is not well grounded in science. I believe your success with Turbo was nothing more than coincidence and you could have done a food elimination trial to achieve the same ends without paying several hundred dollars for a test that is not accepted by immunologists or dermatologists. Much about holistic practices troubles me and I don't get the following. I'm sorry if you don't like that.

[mimimomo]

I'm not going to report you, I'd rather just talk w/you & not argue. I respect you as a member here & you've helped w/my guys when they had struvite crystals, very Thankful for that.

Coincidence, I think not bc the NutriScan test has helped many dogs w/food sensitivities. It might not be for every dog, but it did work for Turbo. It was hard to do an elimination test for Turbo bc in his case, he would throw up, up to 2 days later. If I had only fed him 1 kind of food, maybe I could've figured out that was what was making him throw up. But sometimes he didn't throw up @ all. All the foods that came out as an intolerance, were all the foods/ proteins I was giving him. The only protein that gave him soft poopies was venison. Even w/the elimination test, it would've been almost impossible for me to figure it out. It was a very good investment for me, the NutriScan test.

[107barney]

Originally Posted by mimimomo

I'm not going to report you, I'd rather just talk w/you & not argue. I respect you as a member here & you've helped w/my guys when they had struvite crystals, very Thankful for that.

Coincidence, I think not bc the NutriScan test has helped many dogs w/food sensitivities. It might not be for every dog, but it did work for Turbo. It was hard to do an elimination test for Turbo bc in his case, he would throw up, up to 2 days later. If I had only fed him 1 kind of food, maybe I could've figured out that was what was making him throw up. But sometimes he didn't throw up @ all. All the foods that came out as an intolerance, were all the foods/ proteins I was giving him. The only protein that gave him soft poopies was venison. Even w/the elimination test, it would've been almost impossible for me to figure it out. It was a very good investment for me, the NutriScan test.

Jenny,
Point taken. Let's agree to disagree. I still don't believe in the test and as I said, I have read that the results are inconsistent and that there is zero evidence of the "theory" put forth. If you feel you made a good investment then that is all that matters. I'm thrilled that Turbo is doing well.