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Old 01-22-2014, 01:25 PM   #1
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My Izzy is due for her second round of shots, I called around to get her a check up as I haven't taken her in to be seen yet and was waiting until she needed this second round of shots. She got the first round of shots from the person I bought her from. One of the clinics I called said they always treat for worms because all puppies have worms, and give the 5 way shot and they other place only gives a 2 way and said they don't vaccinate for the others because we don't get it around here.
Really confused on what to do as I don't want to over vaccinate if not needed but the one place that does the 5 way said why wouldn't you fully vaccinate your puppy?!


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Old 01-22-2014, 01:43 PM   #2
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Vaccines are one of those tricky things. LOTS of vets over-vaccinate. But of course you do not want to under-vaccinate either.

I like to follow the basic protocol of Dr. Dodd's (you can google it). I definitely believe in puppy vaccinations (somewhere around 8 weeks, 12 weeks and 16 weeks or so). Then you usually have to get the rabies vaccine before 6 months old. Then at one year old get a booster of the DHP and rabies (preferably, on separate days).

Also remember, over-vaccination is not just some internet mumbo jumbo talk. Some of the worlds leading researchers of vaccines have provided us with information that should definitely be thoroughly discussed as a pet owner. There have been studies that have proven vaccines to work as long as 9+ years. Slowly, some vets are changing to every 5 years (from the current 3 year recommendation). But it's a very slow process. Some vets (that are IMO unethical) still recommend yearly vaccines. Which is completely unacceptable.

Some good links:
Science of Vaccine Damage
Bordetella Vaccination for Dogs: Fraud and Fallacy | Dogs Naturally Magazine

As far as the non-core vaccines that have to be given yearly in order to be "effective" (lyme, flu, etc), Lyme disease in the dog is an infection for which over 90% of infected dogs will never get sick and the 5% to 10% that do get sick can be easily treated with a safe inexpensive course of antibiotics. This situation would seem to indicate that vaccination is simply not worth the expense.

There is also talk that kidney disease can occur in some individuals with long-term antigen exposure, in which case vaccination might be just as hazardous as actual infection.

What is included in the 5 way shot your vet is speaking of? I'd definitely skip lepto (my dog had a VERY bad reaction at 12 weeks to said vaccine). It's known to cause reactions in little dogs. Depending on your area, it's unlikely to cause a problem anyway. Usually it's DHLPP. I just do DHP (distemper, hepatitis, parvo) from here on out.

Sorry if this is confusing!
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Thanks so much for the info.


It definitely is all really confusing. The 5 way I was talking about includes these Canine Distemper, Adenovirus Type 2 (CAV-2 cross protection CAV-1), Parainfluenza and Parvovirus Vaccine (MLV) and the 2 way only includes these two Parainfluenza and Parvovirus Vaccine.

















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Britster...


Thanks again for the info, I think Im going to go with the 5 in 1 which provides protection from Distemper, Hepatitis 1&2 , Parainfluenza & Parvovirus.


after reading tons I think that is the best choice?
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I'm so upset. I took Izzy in this morning for her shot, within 30 minutes she started vomittin for about 30 mins while I rushed back to the vets office where they gave her a shot of bendryl and said she probably had an allergic reaction and to watch her. She seems to be doing better now I just gave her a little food cause I know her tummy was empty. I'm so worried now and afraid to give her anymore shots and hope she is on the mend now.
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I'm so upset. I took Izzy in this morning for her shot, within 30 minutes she started vomittin for about 30 mins while I rushed back to the vets office where they gave her a shot of bendryl and said she probably had an allergic reaction and to watch her. She seems to be doing better now I just gave her a little food cause I know her tummy was empty. I'm so worried now and afraid to give her anymore shots and hope she is on the mend now.
I'm glad that Izzy is feeling better. Sometimes dogs have reactions to vaccines--Bella's reaction was to be very sleepy for a few hours afterwards. For what it's worth, I think the 5-in-1 was the way to go.
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I'm glad that Izzy is feeling better. Sometimes dogs have reactions to vaccines--Bella's reaction was to be very sleepy for a few hours afterwards. For what it's worth, I think the 5-in-1 was the way to go.
Thanks she seems to be back to her normal self. Sheesh that was a scare.
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I'm so upset. I took Izzy in this morning for her shot, within 30 minutes she started vomittin for about 30 mins while I rushed back to the vets office where they gave her a shot of bendryl and said she probably had an allergic reaction and to watch her. She seems to be doing better now I just gave her a little food cause I know her tummy was empty. I'm so worried now and afraid to give her anymore shots and hope she is on the mend now.
Oh how scary!! Reactions are very frightening to watch. Okay, so now that you know she can react - you absolutely want to give benadryl 30mins prior to ANY vaccination in the future. You can give 1/4th of a 25mg tablet to her in the future, and this should help...of course run it by your vet too.
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