Okay, I give...all suggestions welcome.

[TillysMa]

When we first got Tilly, I put her on wellness super5 mix kibble with chicken and sweet potatoe canned as a topper. She loved it and thrived. We did during this time learn she has a sensitive stomach and anything out of the ordinary can cause diarrhea. Last month, super5 mix is no longer being made by wellness. The only bags in the stores if you find one is old. We have tried 2 different wellness foods with mixed results.


I do not klnow if this is food related or she got into something. She has not been enthusiastic about eating. Saturday, we had to hand feed to get her to eat. That evening was the first time we have taken her out for a long duration of time. We went to a friends for dinner. They have dogs, cats and a very lax belief in what animals should eat. I know that no one gave her anything because I threatened life and limb, but she got out of my site a few times before I realized it and could have gotten into something. Sunday she would not eat her food at all and since then has even seemed scared of her food bowl. Also would not eat her favorite treats. seemed very lethargic. no fever. finally caved and got her to eat some chicken and rice. Monday, runny diarrhea. gave her nothing but chicken and rice mixed with some canned wellness. Also gave her some metrodiazanole. Tuesday morning still will not touch dog food, but will eat her treats. no poop all day till this evening and it is good. She acts hungry but hangs her head and cows when she sees her food bowl or dog food in any bowl


Sorry this is so long, but I need advise and knowledge of the situation may help someone to know what is going on. I am currently considering the diarrhea was caused by the switch to the chicken and rice, and she is now holding out for the chicken instead of the dog food. Sunday she was lethargic, but today she is playing more and acting more normal. She does stress at going out in the car. I think she is afraid I am going to leave her somewhere. (rescued in june and was abused)


Thank you for any and all suggestions. I am going tomorrow to try and find another food. My head is in overload trying to sort through all the food suggestions on the forum.

[yorkiemini]

I'm no expert but thought I would bump this up for others to respond.
I do wonder about a couple things.
What food does your vet recommend during this time? And, why can't she have the chicken and rice during this time since she will eat it. You can always wean her onto something else when she is better/healthier.

Little pups that don't eat or drink end up at the vets with IV feedings/ fluids and then she will really feel abandoned without you.

Hang in. Hope thing improve!

[mimimomo]

Originally Posted by TillysMa

When we first got Tilly, I put her on wellness super5 mix kibble with chicken and sweet potatoe canned as a topper. She loved it and thrived. We did during this time learn she has a sensitive stomach and anything out of the ordinary can cause diarrhea. Last month, super5 mix is no longer being made by wellness. The only bags in the stores if you find one is old. We have tried 2 different wellness foods with mixed results.


I do not klnow if this is food related or she got into something. She has not been enthusiastic about eating. Saturday, we had to hand feed to get her to eat. That evening was the first time we have taken her out for a long duration of time. We went to a friends for dinner. They have dogs, cats and a very lax belief in what animals should eat. I know that no one gave her anything because I threatened life and limb, but she got out of my site a few times before I realized it and could have gotten into something. Sunday she would not eat her food at all and since then has even seemed scared of her food bowl. Also would not eat her favorite treats. seemed very lethargic. no fever. finally caved and got her to eat some chicken and rice. Monday, runny diarrhea. gave her nothing but chicken and rice mixed with some canned wellness. Also gave her some metrodiazanole. Tuesday morning still will not touch dog food, but will eat her treats. no poop all day till this evening and it is good. She acts hungry but hangs her head and cows when she sees her food bowl or dog food in any bowl


Sorry this is so long, but I need advise and knowledge of the situation may help someone to know what is going on. I am currently considering the diarrhea was caused by the switch to the chicken and rice, and she is now holding out for the chicken instead of the dog food. Sunday she was lethargic, but today she is playing more and acting more normal. She does stress at going out in the car. I think she is afraid I am going to leave her somewhere. (rescued in june and was abused)


Thank you for any and all suggestions. I am going tomorrow to try and find another food. My head is in overload trying to sort through all the food suggestions on the forum.

What do you mean by old? What were the other 2 formulas? Did this start when you switched to the other formulas? Are you sure she didn't eat anyting out of the ordinary when you were over @ your friends house? If it started right after your visit to your friend's house, I would think that someone gave her something or she picked something off the ground which gave her a tummy ache.
Dogs can have intolerance to some protein(s). They will vomit or have diarrhea. But there's also so many other things that can cause these things.

[TillysMa]

I will try to answer all questions. Wellness is no longer making super 5 mix. I have found a bag at 2 different places but they looked like they had been there awhile and I felt like we should try to find something she would eat that is not discontinued.


My vet and I have disagreed for years on food. he is a good vet and Done some amazing things for my animals but he advocates science diet which I do not like so we do not discuss food.


She has always drank a lot of water and has through this episode.


She was refusing her food on Saturday before going out. I am very upset with myself for letting her out of my site... something I just don't do, so I have strongly considered she got into something over there that made it worse.


No fever, diarrhea gone, tonight she is playing and actin normal, she just won't eat dog food. I am feeding the chicken and rice and have no problem doing that til we find a new food.


Is there a reason she would refuse the dog food besides not liking it if she is eating the chicken?


We have tried the wellness turkey and oatmeal which gave her diarrhea. The one she is refusing now is the wellness small breed toy which she has been on 3 weeks.


She has not eaten either of these well. Going out tomorrow to pick up something else and just not sure what to try. I am new to Yorkies so was looking for guidance.

Thanks for trying to help.

[mimimomo]

Was the switch to the new food, the turkey & oatmeal gradually done or cold turkey? Sometimes that can cause stomach upset which will cause diarrhea. As long as she's eating the chicken & rice, you can gradually add the new food to the chicken & rice & then decrease the chicken & rice while adding more kibble in the next few days. If she continues to have diarrhea, then she might be intolerant of turkey or something else in the kibble.

Well, the chicken & rice is yummier than kibble, so I would think that's why she's not eating it. I had a very picky eater, had to add all kinds of things to her kibble to entice her to eat. Gosh, I've tried everything I could think of & a couple days later, she'll turn her nose @ it! Now she's mainly eating a freeze dried raw diet that I add water to...she wails for her food, we're both happy! I'm just hoping it will last bc I'm running out of options.

You can try moistening the kibble & mush everything together. That's how my picky one liked it, her kibble moistened w/a tablespoon of canned food. She makes her own menu.

[TillysMa]

Mimimomo, thanks, yes I always switch gradual if I can. the first one she refused and frequently had diarrhea is the turkey and oatmeal. this one is chicken peas and brown rice. She got water diarrhea when i fed her the chicken and rice. poo good today but I have been giving metrodiazinole for diarrhea. I am thinking maybe poultry is the culprit or grain. I asked for samples from acana and a couple of others today and tomorrow we are going to hit a couple of stores to get something different.

[mimimomo]

Originally Posted by TillysMa

Mimimomo, thanks, yes I always switch gradual if I can. the first one she refused and frequently had diarrhea is the turkey and oatmeal. this one is chicken peas and brown rice. She got water diarrhea when i fed her the chicken and rice. poo good today but I have been giving metrodiazinole for diarrhea. I am thinking maybe poultry is the culprit or grain. I asked for samples from acana and a couple of others today and tomorrow we are going to hit a couple of stores to get something different.

Diarrhea in Dogs: Don?t Let It Catch You Unprepared

I hope you'll find something that agrees w/her tummy & she'll like it!

[Wylie's Mom]

I'd get this dog to the vet. Inappetance in dogs is a sign that something is really wrong. Pickiness is one thing. But when they're acting 'off' along with inappetance, they need to see a vet.

[Britster]

I'm not sure where you see it was discontinued. They have a different name, but it's the same food. I see Wellness in Petco & Petsmart all the time.

https://www.wellnesspetfood.com/reci...x?pet=dog&ft=1

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

I'd get this dog to the vet. Inappetance in dogs is a sign that something is really wrong. Pickiness is one thing. But when they're acting 'off' along with inappetance, they need to see a vet.

And yeah, this ^

Especially if it's JUST now starting. My dads JRT mix Lilly is a horrible eater. We could mix chicken, steak, anything in there, and sometimes she still turns her nose up at it. Well, then she just doesn't eat for the night. But she's ALWAYS been very weird, so we know it's just her. She doesn't have diarrhea or anything either.

[TillysMa]

I did not say wellness was discontinued, I said the super mix 5 was. The new formulations are different. The diarrhea is gone. she gets it when stressed (trip out) or anything different goes in her mouth (she is a Hoover) . I took away her extremely chewed up nylabones. After all the hours of reading here, realized that was bad. she is today acting normal, playing and did start eating her treats again she just won't eat her dog food. she is eating chicken and rice and cleaning the bowl. We are going out today to pick up a few different foods to try. I stopped the metro and there has never been fever or vomiting.


I am not new to sick dogs. I always rescue which comes with risk. I got Tilly after losing a 9 month cancer battle with one of my schnauzers. I am just new to Yorkies and realizing they are very different especially digestion wise. I have never had picky eater except Bitsy after the cancer set in (which has probably made me a little more anxious about Tilly's pickiness).


If after trying a couple of different foods she still not eat well, I will take her in for blood work to check liver etc.


Thanks all for your help and concern. If anyone has some food suggestions, I am not sure which ones to try.

[mimimomo]

From the link I posted above:
Diarrhea in Dogs: Don?t Let It Catch You Unprepared
Rice, even though it’s bland, is very fermentable. Fermenting rice in the colon of a pet with diarrhea tends to increase gassiness. Also, rice tends to just zip right through the GI tract, exiting with the next bout of explosive diarrhea totally undigested.
Because of its large surface area (when compared to kernels of rice), many pets do much better with pureed pumpkin or sweet potato. Even through a bout of diarrhea, it is readily absorbed.

I remember when Princess had colitis, I cooked her 98% fat free turkey from Trader Joe's & white rice. When she had her bowel movement, a lot of the rice came out undigested. @ 1st, I thought they were worm eggs & almost fainted! I had some green pumpkin (not sure of the name, but it starts w/K), so I baked it in the oven & mushed it together w/the turkey. Vet ok'ed this bland diet for her, he said tilapia will work too.
Glad she's back to her normal self, hope she'll continue to do well. If it's recurring, I would get her vet checked for possible giardia, needs to be ruled out (maybe that's why you have the met/ flagyl?).

[TillysMa]

Mimimomo, thanks and I read your article and stopped the rice. did add some pumpkin. the metro was from my cancer dog and okayed with vet and dosage when we started seeing occasional bouts. If they continue my vet and I agree we need to check out some things at current time we think they are diet/stress related. Raise a voice and she is under the bed shaking. my schnauzer Schatzie actually presented with bad diarrhea today so it is also possible that they picked something up. Metro is also antibiotic .


As far as refusing to eat, we just got back from a local pet store. Very helpful owner's. 100.00 later we arrived home with options to try. got Fromms in 2 different flavors and different proteins than she has been on. some Merrick canned food in case we need toppers. Also got some pumpkin and ginger treats. And some Stella and cheweys treats. Everything is grain free. she ate the salmon fromms. the pumpkin treats were a "well..okay". The biggest winner..Stella and Cheweys. I have had her since June and it is the first time she has sat up and begged. we will see how it goes.

[TillysMa]

Well, we are heading to the vet this afternoon. She is just off. She is playing and generally acting okay, but still will not eat well especially in the morning and eating grass. She will eat soft foods but not kibble and not chewing on her nylabones which is very abnormal. Thinking maybe she hurt a tooth or something so off we go.

[TillysMa]

Well, liver good, kidneys good, mouth good, ears good, throat as good as it is going to be with collapsing trachea, not a sign of anything significantly wrong. Symptoms point to a bit of an acid stomach and stomach irritation maybe caused by allergies and sinus drainage which we do know about. Trying some pepcid and reglan for her stomach. As far as the finicky eating, we are leaning towards "because she learned she could be". When we got her it was almost like she couldn't believe she was getting all this food and she would chow. Slowly she is realizing the food is not going away. And now she has figured out she can be picky. We think she figured out she is a Yorkie lol. Vet thinks diarrhea is a combo of the acid stomach, being a Hoover and she stresses easy. So we are going to learn to keep a variety of food around and metro on hand. She seems to currently love Stella and Chewy's.

[Lilah Charm]

Was glad to hear you went grain free, I realize some dogs tolerate more digestable grains like oatmeal and rice but there are so many who do not. I would also feed a singe protein source at a time so you can rule out a possible protein allergy as was suggested like turkey or lamb. Pumpkin puréed is so good for a rumbly tummy. It can really take about four weeks to know how a food is or is not working for your dog though- a week of transition blending, a week or so to process that all out and a week or so to really respond to the new input. Don't forget that treats count too! Be dilligent about checking your labels. Probiotics are great, you ca buy a powder form to sprinkle on what she will eat or maybe she will like plain yogurt. Many foods include them these days but you might want some extra support. Glad you ruled out a medical concern best of luck