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12-03-2013, 06:36 PM | #1 |
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| Dental-ketamine instead of anesthesia I took Betty Boop to the vet today for her yearly checkup. Her vet wants to schedule a dental as a preventive measure. She has never had a dental and she is 4-1/2 years old. She has a little tartar on her upper molars, but nowhere else. Anyway, the vet said he wouldn't put her under general anesthesia because her teeth are in such good shape. He wants to use Ketamine (plus something that sounded like "ace"??). He said he would only use just enough to get the job done. He said he would have her head lowerd and turned just enough so the water from the cleaning instrument wouldn't run into her throat. He has been her vet since the day I brought her home 4-1/2 years ago and have never had a reason to not trust him. I just don't know if this procedure is the best and safest. What are your thoughts?
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12-03-2013, 07:10 PM | #2 | |
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12-03-2013, 07:16 PM | #3 |
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| Ketamine alone should not be given to dogs, but in combination w/other drugs. UCSF Animal Care & Use Program - Dog Formualry If your vet has done this lots of x's w/great success then I would think it's safe. But personally, if her teeth are in good condition, I would wait & do a thorough cleaning. That way they can get under her gums & possibly pull any teeth if need be. Turbo has never gone under for dental cleaning & he's 5years old. He did have anesthesia free cleaning a year or 2 ago. He has little light yellowing on his back molars, that's it & no bad breath...I also brush their teeth every night. Planning to do his 1st dental cleaning @ the vet in Feb 2014 (so we can get 10% off for pet dental month) if the vet says it's time.
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12-03-2013, 07:19 PM | #4 |
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| That was not on the recommended list. Just curious, what reactions did your girls have to it?
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12-03-2013, 08:19 PM | #5 |
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| I would not be comfortable with this. I can't even comment because right now my jaw is on the floor.
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12-03-2013, 08:27 PM | #6 |
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| I'm not sure I would be really comfortable with it
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12-03-2013, 08:31 PM | #7 | |
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My thoughts exactly. I would go with the gut feeling you have about something being off because it is. Your pup should go under general anesthesia and be intubated for her safety.
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12-03-2013, 09:16 PM | #8 |
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| I am stunned. I have never heard of such a thing. Not a chance I would allow this for any of my pups. Agree with Ellie Mae .. general anesthesia and intubation. I probably would be shopping for another vet for it though.....what this vet is offering is scary to me and I would wonder what the protocol is for anesthesia. Aside from the meds used, the most important thing is that one person be dedicated to monitoring the pup that is anesthetized. It is a very good question to ask the vet...WHO monitors the anesthesia. If it is the person doing the dental, RUN.
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12-04-2013, 01:34 AM | #9 |
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| I, too, was shocked that he wanted to perform a dental in this manner. I have read YT enough to know what the best procedure would be. I thought maybe this might be an acceptable procedure because he suggested it. My gut feeling is to take her to Texas A&M Vet School or a regular doggie dentist. He may have performed this technique on other dogs but he won't be on mine, especially after reading your comments. Thank you! The office doesn't even monitor blood pressure during surgery. Oh and he compared using Ketamine/Ace to Propofol, in that when she wakes up, she wouldn't remember a thing and wouldn't have a long recovery time.
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12-04-2013, 01:50 AM | #10 | |
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Good luck with Turbo's cleaning in February. BTW, what toothpaste do you use and do you use anything else to keep the tartar at bay?
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12-04-2013, 01:58 AM | #11 |
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| Thanks for your opinion. This type of information is what I was looking for.
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12-04-2013, 02:02 AM | #12 |
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| Thanks for your reply. It sure told me a lot in just a few words. She will be getting her teeth cleaned under general anesthesia.
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12-04-2013, 02:04 AM | #13 |
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| After reading all the replies, I'm not at all comfortable with it.
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12-04-2013, 02:11 AM | #14 |
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| I don't know why I even mildly considered such a procedure. I wondered to myself what he would do if after he sedated her if he had to pull teeth. I had all sorts of questions and doubts running through my mind as I was talking to him. Thank you for your reply.
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12-04-2013, 02:32 AM | #15 | |
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Believe me, when she gets a cleaning, it will be done under general anesthesia with the proper monitoring. The other way is way too scary.
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